• Hillary Clinton has ‘lost patience’ with Bernie Sanders, vows to destroy his campaign as tensions be
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So pretty much [t]http://i.imgur.com/snyGA9z.png[/t]
[QUOTE=V12US;50092601]You know there are a ton of people who are going to vote for Clinton just because she has a vagina.[/QUOTE] Not fucking much anymore because of Bill Clinton.
I am still really, really fucking confused as to what electable traits anyone sees in Hillary. The only rhetoric I have heard from a real life Hillary supporter is that she "deserves" the presidency because "she worked long and hard for it."
[QUOTE=catbarf;50092782]Considering the overlap between Clinton's supporters and young people who actually use hashtags is next to nil, and considering Clinton's PR machine is all about cranking out astroturfed support, I'd guess it's probably her campaign that came up with hers. Sanders' on the other hand is probably not his doing.[/QUOTE] Remember this? [url]https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/8-ways-hillary-clinton-just-your-abuela/[/url] Yikes
[QUOTE=Protocol7;50093042]I am still really, really fucking confused as to what electable traits anyone sees in Hillary. The only rhetoric I have heard from a real life Hillary supporter is that she "deserves" the presidency because "she worked long and hard for it."[/QUOTE] Because gender equality or something is the hot new word these days. And not.. you know.. actual policies.
[QUOTE=Winded;50093057]Because gender equality or something is the hot new word these days. And not.. you know.. actual policies.[/QUOTE] Of course, I guess for a lot of people [I]"demonstrating"[/I] support for gender equality is more important than actually supporting the best candidate regardless of their gender.
I have never followed the primaries this close and probably never will again. I'm actually feeling suspense over this.
Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] [QUOTE]Daily News: Okay. Well, let’s assume that you’re correct on that point. How do you go about doing [breaking up the banks]? Sanders: How you go about doing it is having legislation passed, or giving the authority to the secretary of treasury to determine, under Dodd-Frank, that these banks are a danger to the economy over the problem of too-big-to-fail. Daily News: But do you think that the Fed, now, has that authority? Sanders: Well, I don’t know if the Fed has it. But I think the administration can have it. Daily News: How? How does a President turn to JPMorgan Chase, or have the Treasury turn to any of those banks and say, “Now you must do X, Y and Z?” Sanders: Well, you do have authority under the Dodd-Frank legislation to do that, make that determination. Daily News: You do, just by Federal Reserve fiat, you do? Sanders: Yeah. Well, I believe you do.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Daily News: Okay. But do you have a sense that there is a particular statute or statutes that a prosecutor could have or should have invoked to bring indictments? Sanders: I suspect that there are. Yes. Daily News: You believe that? But do you know? Sanders: I believe that that is the case. Do I have them in front of me, now, legal statutes? No, I don’t. But if I would…yeah, that’s what I believe, yes. When a company pays a $5 billion fine for doing something that’s illegal, yeah, I think we can bring charges against the executives. Daily News: I’m only pressing because you’ve made it such a central part of your campaign. And I wanted to know what the mechanism would be to accomplish it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Daily News: I know you’ve got to go in a second. When was the last time you rode the subway? Are you gonna a campaign in the subway? Sanders: Actually we rode the subway, Mike, when we were here? About a year ago? But I know how to ride the subways. I’ve been on them once or twice. Daily News: Do you really? Do you really? How do you ride the subway today? Sanders: What do you mean, “How do you ride the subway?” Daily News: How do you get on the subway today? Sanders: You get a token and you get in. Daily News: Wrong. Sanders: You jump over the turnstile. Daily News: We would like our photographer to be there when you jump over the turnstile.[/QUOTE] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;50093066]Of course, I guess for a lot of people [I]"demonstrating"[/I] support for gender equality is more important than actually supporting the best candidate regardless of their gender.[/QUOTE] her gender is just to hook in clueless outliers who probably would have defaulted to voting for her anyway, her actual platform is that she's more moderate and experienced than Bernie and basically represents the status quo. iirc she has the lowest approval ratings of a Democratic candidate in quite a while so i doubt her supporters actually like her much as a person, but as with most of these generic Third Way candidates it's who she [I]isn't[/I] that's got their support more than any actual policies.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] No experience? Or different experience? A shitty record is worse than a fresh one with honesty, integrity, and great ideas
[QUOTE=Glitchman;50093164]No experience? Or different experience? A shitty record is worse than a fresh one with little faults and great ideas[/QUOTE] I can't remember who put it this way, but examine the decision on the Iraq War. Clinton supported it, Sanders didn't. Clinton has extremely good knowledge of the region and came to (what most Democrats consider) to be the wrong decision despite this. Sanders doesn't appear to know much about the region at all and came to (what most Democrats consider) to be the right decision through his ignorance (maybe that is too strong of a word, but he clearly doesn't know nearly as much in this area as Clinton, and even a Sanders supporter should know and admit this). I personally prefer the former to the latter, but this is an election of first principles and I suspect I am in the minority (and I'm not American).
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Daily News: I know you’ve got to go in a second. When was the last time you rode the subway? Are you gonna a campaign in the subway? Sanders: Actually we rode the subway, Mike, when we were here? About a year ago? But I know how to ride the subways. I’ve been on them once or twice. Daily News: Do you really? Do you really? How do you ride the subway today? Sanders: What do you mean, “How do you ride the subway?” Daily News: How do you get on the subway today? Sanders: You get a token and you get in. Daily News: Wrong. Sanders: You jump over the turnstile. Daily News: We would like our photographer to be there when you jump over the turnstile.[/QUOTE] You can't be serious If you read the entire interview, it becomes blatantly obvious that they are trying to make Bernie look as bad as possible, to the point that its actually cringe worthy
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] TYT isn't the best source because it's anything but objective but this is a great (albeit a bit aggressive as TYT usually is) piece about that interview. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6gq-NO0_0[/media]
That was just a funny bit, it isn't a big deal compared to the other questions. I wouldn't particularly expect him to get the question right given that he is a Senator from Vermont, and this is New York, but given that he is trying to run as the 'in touch' candidate he should be able to answer these 'price of milk' questions. Sorry that he actually got a tough interview though.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] You can know something needs to be done without knowing how to do it. The economy needs fixing you or I have no idea how exactly to do it. World hunger needs addressing, climate change needs fixing, the drinking water issue, corruption, usable soil shortages, desertification, war, violent radical ideology, mexican drug wars, moral hazard in the financials sector, pollution, overfishing. These are all issues you (maybe you disagree with a few) know need to have something done about them, theres no way you can pull up an actual plan to deal with all of them, you might have a rough idea but the details to all of that are likely nebulous till you consult or become an expert. He's a politician not a team of economic experts. All politicians have advisors and bring in actual professionals in those fields to go about doing what they need to do. Because he doesn't know how to ride the subway is a silly argument since: A) what does this have to do with policy B) with his age, income and status realistically he drives everywhere. Only 41% of people in NY use the subway, most of them will be much younger/poorer people than himself. Also is he expected to memorise all the laws stats and figures? An expert/specialist/enthusiast might know everything about a very narrow topic but he has to know a moderate amount about everything, realistically a lot of politicians jobs involves bringing in outside expertise and deferring jobs to people who are better suited to doing them.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093189]That was just a funny bit, it isn't a big deal compared to the other questions. I wouldn't particularly expect him to get the question right given that he is a Senator from Vermont, and this is New York, but given that he is trying to run as the 'in touch' candidate he should be able to answer these 'price of milk' questions. Sorry that he actually got a tough interview though.[/QUOTE] The interviewers asked him several questions premised on information that was incorrect. They actually asked him about issues that weren't factual.
Ok so when's Bernie gonna drop a diss track?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50093197]You can know something needs to be done without knowing how to do it. The economy needs fixing you or I have no idea how exactly to do it. World hunger needs addressing, climate change needs fixing, the drinking water issue, corruption, usable soil shortages, desertification, war, violent radical ideology, mexican drug wars, moral hazard in the financials sector, pollution, overfishing. These are all issues you (maybe you disagree with a few) know need to have something done about them, theres no way you can pull up an actual plan to deal with all of them, you might have a rough idea but the details to all of that are likely nebulous till you consult or become an expert. He's a politician not a team of economic experts. All politicians have advisors and bring in actual professionals in those fields to go about doing what they need to do. Because he doesn't know how to ride the subway is a silly argument since: A) what does this have to do with policy B) with his age, income and status realistically he drives everywhere. Only 41% of people in NY use the subway, most of them will be much younger/poorer people than himself. Also is he expected to memorise all the laws stats and figures? An expert/specialist/enthusiast might know everything about a very narrow topic but he has to know a moderate amount about everything, realistically a lot of politicians jobs involves bringing in outside expertise and deferring jobs to people who are better suited to doing them.[/QUOTE] I think, if something is a central part of your campaign, then you should know what you are going to do. Other less important things it is fine to do what you are saying and to simply rely on your beliefs and principles, sure, but not when it is so important.
The only thing Hillary qualifies for is Divorce, and a Retirement home.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] 30 years in office... no experience? The fuck are you on?
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093245]I think, if something is a central part of your campaign, then you should know what you are going to do. Other less important things it is fine to do what you are saying and to simply rely on your beliefs and principles, sure, but not when it is so important.[/QUOTE] It's also a central part of Hillary's campaign and she has responded the exact same way. Use Dodd-Frank to break up the banks. The interviewer was the one that was interjecting things that weren't part of administrative authority.
One interesting fact, 30-40% of Sanders voters approve of Clinton, 60-70% of Clinton voters approve of Sanders We all have heard the talk about if Clinton wins how much of Sanders votes will go to her, what about if Sanders won though
[QUOTE=Sableye;50093446]One interesting fact, 30-40% of Sanders voters approve of Clinton, 60-70% of Clinton voters approve of Sanders We all have heard the talk about if Clinton wins how much of Sanders votes will go to her, what about if Sanders won though[/QUOTE] I can't imagine a scenario where the majority of Clinton supporters wouldn't vote Sanders in the general
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] That interview is complete tosh.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] And she'd have a better plan to break them up, prevent another fustercluck?
[QUOTE=TestECull;50093556]And she'd have a better plan to break them up, prevent another fustercluck?[/QUOTE] she'd speak with them, and tell 'em to cut it out
[QUOTE=catbarf;50092782]Considering the overlap between Clinton's supporters and young people who actually use hashtags is next to nil, and considering Clinton's PR machine is all about cranking out astroturfed support, I'd guess it's probably her campaign that came up with hers. Sanders' on the other hand is probably not his doing.[/QUOTE] Or it could just be that those people who don't use or understand social media came up with a shitty because you know, they don't use understand social media.
With this, Hillary is a shoo-in for the next Dark Lord of the Sith.
[QUOTE=Nerts;50092668]Well... [t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/55/79/ee/5579ee6bb2fae5b49419d8651159afb2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] That's nothing compared to this. [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_VaRcqR9F7k/VTG6nVyccII/AAAAAAAAXqI/E_2cRxtKF40/s1600/vote-header_0.png[/img]
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50093133]Hillary is right though, based off of this interview. He has no experience and doesn't really know what he's doing. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/04/05/9-things-bernie-sanders-shouldve-known-about-but-didnt-in-that-daily-news-interview/[/url] Sanders clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] Since when was it a requirement for a president to know how to operate one cities train system Jesus fucking Christ you're grasping at straws
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