• Jerry Brown signs gun restraining-order bill
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[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;46119466]yeah, and the background check does jack shit about mental illness and/or involvement in criminality that isn't registered with the police see the issue here? the atf form is bullshit anyway, just look at the fp gun owners who smoke pot every other day of the week and still ticked "no" when asked if they're doing durgz. pretty easy to lie on a form that doesn't get checked other than criminal history[/QUOTE] Lying on the form is a federal crime. It's perjury.
I am totally fine with establishing a way to issue a temporary court order to suspend someone's access to guns. Sucks about the toy guns part, though. Sorry, California airsofters, you have to paint your tacticool M4s hot pink now.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;46119511]the problem is that the guns are already in circulation do something to stop the ones in circulation and THEN set a registry in place. get it?[/QUOTE] Except gun registration does absolutely nothing. No criminal is going to be stupid enough to use a registered gun, and if they stole it, they're likely to file off the serial numbers. Canada just abolished the long gun registry because it did absolutely nothing and helped solve precisely 0 crimes in the 17 years it was active, and to be honest, our handgun registry, which has been around since 1934, is equally as useless and accomplishes absolutely nothing. Gun registration does not prevent crime, and there is absolutely no data to suggest it does. As a matter of fact, the data suggests it does nothing. So why instate another useless hoop that'll end up putting a bunch of people in jail for forgetting to have a piece of paper in their pocket when they're out hunting (literally how our registry worked) when it will accomplish precisely nothing but wasting taxpayer dollars and be met with abysmal compliance rates. Like honestly, nobody'll register their guns. Estimates here are that anywhere from 20%-70% of the guns were never registered, with most gun rights organizations feeling the registry had about at best a 50% compliance rate based on UN small arms import numbers for Canada, and the government estimating compliance was 80% based off of, well, really nothing. They had no data to make that guess off of. Why put it in place if it will do nothing, if it won't save anyone, and all it'll do is cost money and put innocent people in jail for a purely paper crime with literally no victim?
Just educate the kids about firearm safety. If it isn't taught, people become curious. If they are taught, they know what it is and how to deal with it. The most I ever learned in school about gun safety is "GUN'S ARE BAD AND NEVER TOUCH THEM OR THINK ABOUT THEM".
Let's keep in mind that less than 1 for every 1000 CA residents has a CCW permit anyway. The process of obtaining one is extremely convoluted and you essentially have to prove that you need a gun on you moreso than anyone else in the state. The vast, vast, [B]vast[/B] majority of CA concealed carriers are carrying illegally.
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