• Cricket player Chris Gayle hits on reporter, fined $10,000
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49460176]Only if it's a government body levying the fine. In this case, it's his sports team and/or the league. If he refused to pay the fine, he wouldn't be in any [I]legal[/I] trouble, as in jail time or anything of that sort, but given that he had violated a clause in his contract he could likely be barred from playing by his organization. Basically, the only people he is in trouble with are the people who pay him to play sports for them, because he acted in a manner that they felt damaged the public perception of the league. [editline]/[/editline] I mean, I guess if he refused to pay the fine, they could possibly sue him in a civil case for breach of contract? I'm not really sure how that would work, to be honest, but in that case I suppose it could said be said he's in legal trouble, sure. Still, though, $10k is pretty small potatoes compared to what professional athletes actually make. This is a slap on the wrist only intended to save face, not to seriously damage him.[/QUOTE] Gonna point out almost all jobs that deal with television have a professionalism clause, and we see reporters hit on people all the time still. This is an incredible double standard.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;49459415]No wonder he was fined, those lines are cringy. I've heard better pick up lines from a 10 year old.[/QUOTE] um pedo, alert?
[Quote]I'm cripplingly insecure. I only talk to women pretty much only if she is my friend, or we have a mutual friend in common or in a few rare occasions they initiated the conversation first.[/QUOTE] This is why you are having trouble finding relationships, not because women are out to castrate men and revel in their Woman Privelege. I know this because I've been there, dude. My mom walked out when I was thirteen, and that fucked me up right good. I spent all of my teen years angry, insecure, jealous, and lonely, because I nurtured unhealthy and unrealistic expectations about how women SHOULD treat me. You need to snap out of it. Dating isn't scary or difficult. It turns out that there's no big secret to it. The Issue is this idea that just because you're into somebody, they have to be into you too, but that just isn't how it works. As I started realizing what was wrong with my outlook, I made major changes to how I approached dating in general, and they made all the difference. I don't "chat girls up," I just talk to them. I don't spend weeks or months nurturing a crush before trying to work up the nerve to ask them out, I just ask them out the moment I suspect I might be interested in them. Hell, I've asked out girls that I hadn't ever even spoken to before with success. A girl from one of my college classes got up to do a presentation, and I thought, "wow, okay, I need to give this a shot." So after class, I just walked up to her and said something to the effect of, "hey, I'm Zach. This might be a bit out of form, but can I take you out for coffee or something? I'd love to have a chance to get to know you." She said yes, we went out, and it didn't really click so we didn't have a second date. No big deal, no real awkwardness, no big embarrassing scene, no accusations of creepiness. That's basically how things went for a couple years. I got dome rejectiond, some dates here and there, a couple girls that things progressed with for a bit before breaking it off, and now I'm about to celebrate two years of an incredibly fulfilling relationship with a girl who has come to mean everything to me. As long as you're polite, friendly, respectful, and open about your intentions, you're not going to experience any real trouble in the dating market. You might get rejected every now and then (hell, probably even more often than you aren't), but basically nobody is going to make a big hairy deal about it, and in the end it doesn't really hurt you. Just makes the next one easier. I'd recommend taking this over to the "Super Friendly Social Advice" thread, because there are some solid folks in there who will gladly give you a hand in understanding where you are going wrong.
[QUOTE=Buck.;49461523]it's harder still with the added pressure of being accused of being a creeper.[/QUOTE] this is ridiculous IMO. I smoke ciggarettes. I stand outside to do this a lot. Often, women, men, people, stand by me. I start up a conversation with them regardless of who they are because that's what you do. You shouldn't feel that talking to a woman is being a creeper. They're people. Talk to them like they're people. That's it. That's all there is to socializing. I am a wildly anti social individual by choice, but because of my job, my fiance, and life in general, I've had to be an incredibly outgoing person and I've adopted that for the majority of my life(I go home after a long day and people be damned after that point). You are not a creep for randomly talking to a stranger, be it a man or a woman.
On whose authority is this fine being issued?
[QUOTE=Antlerp;49462344]On whose authority is this fine being issued?[/QUOTE] Read the first ten words of the article and find out. He's a professional athlete under contract with a team in an associated league. He is being fined by his team, presumably for violating a morality/professionalism clause in his contract.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49461974]This is why you are having trouble finding relationships, not because women are out to castrate men and revel in their Woman Privelege. I know this because I've been there, dude. My mom walked out when I was thirteen, and that fucked me up right good. I spent all of my teen years angry, insecure, jealous, and lonely, because I nurtured unhealthy and unrealistic expectations about how women SHOULD treat me. You need to snap out of it. Dating isn't scary or difficult. It turns out that there's no big secret to it. The Issue is this idea that just because you're into somebody, they have to be into you too, but that just isn't how it works. As I started realizing what was wrong with my outlook, I made major changes to how I approached dating in general, and they made all the difference. I don't "chat girls up," I just talk to them. I don't spend weeks or months nurturing a crush before trying to work up the nerve to ask them out, I just ask them out the moment I suspect I might be interested in them. Hell, I've asked out girls that I hadn't ever even spoken to before with success. A girl from one of my college classes got up to do a presentation, and I thought, "wow, okay, I need to give this a shot." So after class, I just walked up to her and said something to the effect of, "hey, I'm Zach. This might be a bit out of form, but can I take you out for coffee or something? I'd love to have a chance to get to know you." She said yes, we went out, and it didn't really click so we didn't have a second date. No big deal, no real awkwardness, no big embarrassing scene, no accusations of creepiness. That's basically how things went for a couple years. I got dome rejectiond, some dates here and there, a couple girls that things progressed with for a bit before breaking it off, and now I'm about to celebrate two years of an incredibly fulfilling relationship with a girl who has come to mean everything to me. As long as you're polite, friendly, respectful, and open about your intentions, you're not going to experience any real trouble in the dating market. You might get rejected every now and then (hell, probably even more often than you aren't), but basically nobody is going to make a big hairy deal about it, and in the end it doesn't really hurt you. Just makes the next one easier. I'd recommend taking this over to the "Super Friendly Social Advice" thread, because there are some solid folks in there who will gladly give you a hand in understanding where you are going wrong.[/QUOTE] I mean, I don't think he's saying that the reason he can't get a girlfriend is because of this weird trend where men approaching women is seen as harassment, he clearly admits his own fault in the matter.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49461974]This is why you are having trouble finding relationships, not because women are out to castrate men and revel in their Woman Privelege. I know this because I've been there, dude. My mom walked out when I was thirteen, and that fucked me up right good. I spent all of my teen years angry, insecure, jealous, and lonely, because I nurtured unhealthy and unrealistic expectations about how women SHOULD treat me. You need to snap out of it. Dating isn't scary or difficult. It turns out that there's no big secret to it. The Issue is this idea that just because you're into somebody, they have to be into you too, but that just isn't how it works. As I started realizing what was wrong with my outlook, I made major changes to how I approached dating in general, and they made all the difference. I don't "chat girls up," I just talk to them. I don't spend weeks or months nurturing a crush before trying to work up the nerve to ask them out, I just ask them out the moment I suspect I might be interested in them. Hell, I've asked out girls that I hadn't ever even spoken to before with success. A girl from one of my college classes got up to do a presentation, and I thought, "wow, okay, I need to give this a shot." So after class, I just walked up to her and said something to the effect of, "hey, I'm Zach. This might be a bit out of form, but can I take you out for coffee or something? I'd love to have a chance to get to know you." She said yes, we went out, and it didn't really click so we didn't have a second date. No big deal, no real awkwardness, no big embarrassing scene, no accusations of creepiness. That's basically how things went for a couple years. I got dome rejectiond, some dates here and there, a couple girls that things progressed with for a bit before breaking it off, and now I'm about to celebrate two years of an incredibly fulfilling relationship with a girl who has come to mean everything to me. As long as you're polite, friendly, respectful, and open about your intentions, you're not going to experience any real trouble in the dating market. You might get rejected every now and then (hell, probably even more often than you aren't), but basically nobody is going to make a big hairy deal about it, and in the end it doesn't really hurt you. Just makes the next one easier. I'd recommend taking this over to the "Super Friendly Social Advice" thread, because there are some solid folks in there who will gladly give you a hand in understanding where you are going wrong.[/QUOTE] Thanks, I now see why you have that title. It's all good advice and I've read similar before. I didn't say all the personal shit for no reason, I know why [I]I'm[/I] single and I'm trying to be better. Frankly I probably wouldn't date me either. I tend to analyze things too much where I just give up. This is what it's like: I'm walking down the street and see a beautiful girl walking towards me and think to myself "I should say hi and introduce myself before she walks by... But she may think it's weird. No BDA say's she won't. OK, but what if she doesn't listen? BDA say's so what? So what should I do? BDA say's be polite, friendly, respectful, and open about your intentions. OK I will say "Hi, my name is Joe, I hope you don't mind this but I thought you looked lovely and I wanted to talk to you". Don't say that, that's objectifying her! No it isn't just say it. Okay but what if..." And around here in my train of thought she walks by. And if I know one thing for certain it's that you don't approach random women from behind. (I don't actually have 3 voices in my head by the way. Just being a bit artsy). Any more posts about me, I will make on that thread, thanks again. Now back to the topic in hand. My post wasn't specifically about me, I was talking about the big picture. You yourself said that you had to go and ask for dates, and you had to go talk to them. Do you think you would be in a happy relationship if you just waited this whole time for someone to ask you out? Most likely not. In reality most of the time the man has to take action and what I and some other posters above said it's one sided and unfair. Merely an observation. A lot of people won't see this as a guy getting fined for being unprofessional, they will see it as being fined for hitting on a girl. [editline]5th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=geel9;49462936]I mean, I don't think he's saying that the reason he can't get a girlfriend is because of this weird trend where men approaching women is seen as harassment, he clearly admits his own fault in the matter.[/QUOTE] Ninja'd my post somehow nice
Updated OP. Looks like he is going to be banned from playing in the competition altogether.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49467668]Updated OP. Looks like he is going to be banned from playing in the competition altogether.[/QUOTE] That's fucking retarded. Are we gonna ignore the fact that Maria Sharapova would do this all the time?
Dude being completely banned from playing in the competition is crazy over the top. Even the fine alone was too much. This is fucked.
For anyone interested here is a good article concerning the issue of public shaming and social media relating to this incident. [URL="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-07/hughes-chris-gayle-and-our-addiction-to-public-shaming/7072898"]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-07/hughes-chris-gayle-and-our-addiction-to-public-shaming/7072898[/URL]
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49459359][URL="http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/big-bash-league-2016-chris-gayle-set-to-be-banned-from-playing-in-future-bbl-tournaments/story-e6frf3g3-1227699914394"]UPDATE: It looks like he is going to be banned from playing in the competition altogether[/URL][/QUOTE] Whoa that's a little bit too much...
May sound a little off-topic, however... While gender equality sounds great, the word 'equality' seems blurred as fuck. Some people get so precious about shit like this, when a man hits on a woman in a professional environment. If it's the other way around around however, it's not a huge problem. Why talk about equality and justice for gender when not many people dare to look at these kinds of contradictions? Also, have you seen the interview with the journalist he hit on? She's literally like "omg it was so unprofessional, holy shit." Get lost. How boring must her life be? To always have a blank journo personality 24/7?
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