Guy crashes hummer into speeding car saving 4 children - Polidicks

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;37580348]Ban cars? Of course not that's ridiculous. It should be more difficult to get a license and there should be retests after a certain age or something. Too many unfit people have access to vehicles.[/QUOTE] At no point did I suggest or imply that we should ban cars, but it should be more difficult for people to get a license.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;37580350]That's hardly even a driving test, it's more of a "can you operate this vehicle" test.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know. It's absolutely laughable, especially given what sort of vehicle that license allows you to drive. My parents gave me a stricter test than the official TDOT tester! What's even more laughable is that there's no driver's ed requirement, that onus is on the parents, and the written test was 20 parts DUI laws and 5 parts "What does the red octagon on a steel post mean?". If I had my way the test would involve starting out in the country, making one's way all the way into downtown Nashville, parallel parking near a fast food joint, picking up a soda, and then driving all the way back. It may be a 60 mile round trip, but it will encompass every type of road in the area, and would be a thorough test of how a prospective driver actually drives.

This is why I like Hummers, yes they're gas guzzlers just like any other big SUV (my mom's gets 13 at best, Hummer gets around 14-15 at best, but people only complain about the Hummer) out there, but they're safer to be inside of in a collision. In this day when there's texting/talking on phones while driving along with drunk drivers, I think I'm going to pay the extra money to keep my ass safe, especially when I'm this young, I want to live my life and enjoy it, and not be killed by someone YOLOing. Maybe it's just me and military vehicles, but I don't see what the big deal is between those huge pickups people drive, and a big SUV. I just wished that companies would start working on better engines for the exteriors people love, just like Arnold Schwarzenegger said a while ago when Hummer started going downhill. He was saying it was a good idea to let China take over the Hummer because they're making much better progress than over here in America.

STOP HUMMERTIME

[QUOTE=TestECull;37580401]Yeah, I know. It's absolutely laughable, especially given what sort of vehicle that license allows you to drive. My parents gave me a stricter test than the official TDOT tester! What's even more laughable is that there's no driver's ed requirement, that onus is on the parents, and the written test was 20 parts DUI laws and 5 parts "What does the red octagon on a steel post mean?".[/QUOTE] And stupid stuff like "WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN" and the answers are like "eat chocolate, shoot the car, turn your hazards on and get the vehicle to the side of the road, or cry" Which, isn't necessarily the problem. There's nothing regulating existing drivers, unless you drive bad enough to get your license revoked, which is usually 6-12 months. And it takes quite a lot to get your license revoked.

I thought the police were going to go batshit on the hummer driver, but I'm glad they didn't.

I read it as "Guy crashes hammer into speeding car saving 4 children". I had my hopes up that Thor actually exists.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;37580442]And stupid stuff like "WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN" and the answers are like "eat chocolate, shoot the car, turn your hazards on and get the vehicle to the side of the road, or cry"[/quote] Correct answer is to pull over, pop the hood, figure out what the hell happened, and fix it. :v: Unless it's catastrophic. then you diagnose it, call a flatbed, and look for a rental. The bigger issue regarding breakdowns is teaching people how to pull over properly. I can't count how many dumbasses stop just inside the line on the rumble strip. You're supposed to get it as far away from the travel lanes as possible...I'll put the right hand wheels in the grass if the issue isn't a flat on the right and I can get them there. [quote]Which, isn't necessarily the problem. There's nothing regulating existing drivers, unless you drive bad enough to get your license revoked, which is usually 6-12 months. And it takes quite a lot to get your license revoked.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how we'd go about that without invading people's privacy though. Perhaps mandatory dash cameras for the first year of driving and for six months following an at-fault crash? That may throw privacy alarms too. Hrm. I don't really know how one would do that, but I do agree that something should be figured out.

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;37580399]At no point did I suggest or imply that we should ban cars, but it should be more difficult for people to get a license.[/QUOTE] You're right you didn't. I thought I was in another thread for a second there.

Well, I'm not sure we even need to go that far. We need at more rigorous driving tests, including how to handle hazardous conditions, and these tests need to be done to every driver every 5 years or so. And people really need to learn why talking on the phone is bad - you'll end up going 30MPH over the speed limit and risk (or probably actually do it) killing kids at a crosswalk. People on their phone also tend to veer to either side and not react properly when something happens.

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;37580418]This is why I like Hummers, yes they're gas guzzlers just like any other big SUV (my mom's gets 13 at best, Hummer gets around 14-15 at best, but people only complain about the Hummer) out there, but they're safer to be inside of in a collision. In this day when there's texting/talking on phones while driving along with drunk drivers, I think I'm going to pay the extra money to keep my ass safe, especially when I'm this young, I want to live my life and enjoy it, and not be killed by someone YOLOing. Maybe it's just me and military vehicles, but I don't see what the big deal is between those huge pickups people drive, and a big SUV. I just wished that companies would start working on better engines for the exteriors people love, just like Arnold Schwarzenegger said a while ago when Hummer started going downhill. He was saying it was a good idea to let China take over the Hummer because they're making much better progress than over here in America.[/QUOTE] The thing with Hummers is that when GM took over, they weren't really Hummers anymore. They were like reframed Tahoes and I just don't like what they did to it. Speaking of SUV's, is it a coincidence that they don't really make a lot of them with diesel engines?

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Well personally, we had driver's ed here for about a month in our schools around here during our PE period in my 10th grade year, around when most people should be getting their license. It covered everything you need to know from my view on it, and they offered a behind the wheel course for people who already went through the class/had their permit. I'm not sure if they do that in every school, but they should.

Damn it! I drive a G5 GT and this is why insurance is so freaking high on it. Young people wreck these things doing stupid maneuvers. Great job on the Hummer driver though, smart move and quick thinking saved a couple kids.

[QUOTE=Nikota;37580581] Speaking of SUV's, is it a coincidence that they don't really make a lot of them with diesel engines?[/QUOTE] They do. Just not in the US market. The majority of American SUV buyers, AKA soccer moms and idiots, think diesels are nasty, smelly, sooty, clattery, unreliable junkheaps and scoff at the $4.25/gallon for the fuel. So they just won't buy them. Then there's those who buy for personal preference, and most of them just simply prefer the gas V8. Lastly there's the subgroup that actually uses it as an SUV on a regular basis, they'd probably fork out for the diesel since they'd save money on fuel. Ford's Excursion is a pretty nice case-in-point regarding this. They were offered with a Triton V-10 gas engine, a large-inch Triton V-8 gas engine, and a Powerstroke diesel. The only buyers that opted for the Powerstroke were the ones that were doing lots of towing with them, the vast majority of Excursions sold were sold with a gas engine.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;37580132]I wonder sometimes if it's TOO easy to get a drivers license[/QUOTE] Years ago, I was nervously waiting in line at the DMV to begin my behind the wheel test. As I was waiting, a girl ran in and told her waiting mother that she passed despite the fact that she drove so badly the instructor had to grab the wheel at one point to prevent an accident. I relaxed knowing that passing was that easy. Then became tense again when I realized that[I] passing was that easy.[/I]

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;37580132]I wonder sometimes if it's TOO easy to get a drivers license[/QUOTE] Depends on the country. Here in Norway it usually takes 4-5 months before you get your license. Same with most of Europe I think. Other countries you pretty much only need to take a test and know how to make the car move forward. Russia is an example of that. Quoting someone from Reddit: [quote]In Norway you need this: 1: Basic Traffic course. 17 hours This test is basically 17 hours of school, where you learn everything from traffic rules and first aid to safety at a basic level to make sure you don't get behind the wheel without knowing anything. Passing this test gives you the right to be a learning driver, i.e driving with your parents or instructor. Any time after this traffic course, you are obligated to do a "Dark driving" course with your instructor. This can be done at any time, but before your final practical and theoretical test. 2: Basic driving skills. This step can be done in private, or with an instructor. It's learning how to drive, basically. However, an instructor is required to test you at the end to see if you have the necessary driving skills to start on step 3. 3: Driving in traffic and slick driving: Traffic driving is done in private or with an instructor at a traffic school. Like step 2, most people fail because they do this in private and think they are master drivers. This part teaches you about how to drive in traffic and the skills necessary to drive safely, economically etc. Second part of this step is an obligatory slick driving test done with your driving instructor. You go to a slick-road track operated by the local motor vehicle department. You drive around on really slick roads, avoiding random objects flung in front of your car, brake tests and cornering in icy conditions. It's actually the most fun part of the driving test, but it's very hard. Luckily, you can't fail at this test. At the end of this step, you and your instructor go through an obligatory lesson to test you and make sure you are ready for the next step. 4: Final Training: This step involves an obligatory 13 hours of class room safety instruction. It's fairly standard and easy if you've paid attention and a proficient driver. 5: Theoretical Test: This is where most people fail. You get a ton of questions, and you need 85% correct answers or you'll have to wait 2 weeks to take it again. You are also required to deliver a medical eye-test report, and notify the police so they can make your criminal record available to the motor vehicle department. This test is done at a local motor vehicle department test-room with electronic counter-surveillance to make sure you don't cheat. No joke. Around 50% of people fail this test the first time. 6: Practical Test: Now, this is where you switch out your driving instructor with a motor vehicle department official. Before any driving begins, he pulls up 3 cards and holds them in front of you. You pick one at random. On this card is a list of things he will ask you. I was told from this card to perform some technical tests and answer some theoretical questions: Check the brake pressure, start the emergency lights, open the hood and point out the radiator belt and test that it is functional. For questions I got: How much weight are you allowed to carry on this car using a hanger. How far back do you put the emergency triangle, and I can't remember the last one. You are not told if you pass this first test. Then you start driving for about 2 hours, with the guy not saying a single fucking word. At the end, you park back at the beginning, and he tells you if you passed or failed. I didn't fail so I don't know what happens if you fail but I'm sure he explains what went wrong. Failing excludes you from taking the test for another 4 weeks. The price of all this: According to driving instructors now, the average price is around €4000. There are some ways to make it cheaper. If you practice a lot with your family or friends who are good teachers, you can save a lot of money on an instructor. It won't save you all that much though, because there are plenty of obligatory courses. I spent around €3000 doing this. I passed everything the first go so no extra costs. You can also do a "crash course" usually in less urban areas of Norway. It will approximately cost half the price, but is usually done by less reputable driving schools and most of the people I know who used this sucks at driving. It is very unpersonalized and does not in any way teach you how to drive in an urban environment.[/quote]

[QUOTE=TestECull;37580681]They do. Just not in the US market. The majority of American SUV buyers, AKA soccer moms and idiots, think diesels are nasty, smelly, sooty, clattery, unreliable junkheaps and scoff at the $4.25/gallon for the fuel. So they just won't buy them. Then there's those who buy for personal preference, and most of them just simply prefer the gas V8. Lastly there's the subgroup that actually uses it as an SUV on a regular basis, they'd probably fork out for the diesel since they'd save money on fuel. Ford's Excursion is a pretty nice case-in-point regarding this. They were offered with a Triton V-10 gas engine, a large-inch Triton V-8 gas engine, and a Powerstroke diesel. The only buyers that opted for the Powerstroke were the ones that were doing lots of towing with them, the vast majority of Excursions sold were sold with a gas engine.[/QUOTE] What would the point in having a diesel engine be when diesel costs more than fuel in the current economy? I know they don't require as much fuel and they're a little more durable but personally I have just a regular V-8 and it performs fine, granted I've never used my SUV for anything in deep shit weather, it has been pretty solid other than the shit transmission.

[QUOTE=DaDillsta;37580940]What would the point in having a diesel engine be when diesel costs more than fuel in the current economy? I know they don't require as much fuel and they're a little more durable but personally I have just a regular V-8 and it performs fine, granted I've never used my SUV for anything in deep shit weather, it has been pretty solid other than the shit transmission.[/QUOTE] Big block V8: 8 city 14 highway Diesel V8: 15 city 20 highway Sure the fuel may cost more at the pump but it balances out. You spend less with a diesel than you do with a gasser. Nothing wrong with a throaty big block, but the diesel beats it hands down in fuel economy.

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;37580033]The guy should have his license stripped from him for life, with no opportunity to retake his tests and get a new license. And depending on how far over the speed limit you are it's debatable, 5 mph over is forgivable but not being at 50 in a residential area.[/QUOTE] This is the single most hypocritical sentence I've read on Facepunch. How can you guys be so pro-rehabilitation and against the death sentence, yet you're so quick to revoke somebody's license? Granted they're almost two completely different thing but the point still stands. "This guy should have his life stripped from him and have no chance of getting out of it" There's so many other ways to fix this issue than just flat out degrade the ability for another man to get around, install a speedometer or limit his speed to 30 MPH and disallow access to freeways or something.

[QUOTE=Nikota;37580581]The thing with Hummers is that when GM took over, they weren't really Hummers anymore. They were like reframed Tahoes and I just don't like what they did to it. Speaking of SUV's, is it a coincidence that they don't really make a lot of them with diesel engines?[/QUOTE] That's true, I really prefer the H1 with that big hump in the middle, those were the real luxury SUVs, but they're hard to find near me, I mostly see H3s and some H2s. [t]http://expensivecar.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hummer-h1-interior-wallpaper.jpg[/t] Thing is a beauty inside.

he was going through a school zone (obviously) so the speed limit drops 20km/h from 50 to 30, even if it wasn't a school zone he was still going 30km/h over the speed limit which is still faster than the speed limit for any of the highways near my house (minus the trans-canada) death penalty. [editline]7th September 2012[/editline] also albertans can't drive for shit, i was there a few weeks ago in Edmonton and over 50% of the people i looked at while driving on the 100km/h highway which goes around edmonton were on their cell phones. a few people i saw even had both hands off the wheel looking down texting on their phone, the reason i noticed was because people kept constantly slowly veering in to my lane then jerking back. it's fucked over there

Is the nissan pathfinder any good? It's a 2.5 diesel 05 model

[QUOTE=TestECull;37580262]Agreed. It's really piss easy to get that license in the first place here. My road test amounted to putzing around in a suburb for five minutes. I literally didn't get out of the 'burbs at all. The test, which I took in a 2 door FWD 4-cyl commuter car, gave me a license that would let me drive one of these on public highways: [img]http://www.vintagemilitarytrucks.com/2004%2005-07%20M35A2%20S12%20Jessica%20Lynch%20Mexico%202.jpg[/img] Now I'm not such a screaming retard that I'd kill someone in a Duece, but it's astonishing that other people took the same exact road test I could, can legally drive one of those things, [i]and barely know which way to push the shifter to go foward.[/i] It's a miracle TN's roads aren't lined with crosses...[/QUOTE] The only state which requires more than a regular license to drive a deuce is apparently CA.

[QUOTE=Apache249;37581167]The only state which requires more than a regular license to drive a deuce is apparently CA.[/QUOTE] good thing I'm not moving to cali :v:. I actually want to own one of those things. they're awesome, they're nearly unstoppable when the weather turns to shit, and they just don't break. Ever. Cheap too, I found a good one on Craigslist the other day for $5,000.

[quote]he said, "I believe anyone would have done that."[/quote] he believes wrong. dead wrong. but I admire his modesty

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[QUOTE=TestECull;37581309]good thing I'm not moving to cali :v:. I actually want to own one of those things. they're awesome, they're nearly unstoppable when the weather turns to shit, and they just don't break. Ever. Cheap too, I found a good one on Craigslist the other day for $5,000.[/QUOTE] It's a shame I am in California. I don't think I'd buy one as a daily driver anyway, though. They're sick but the fuel economy would kill me.

[QUOTE=Apache249;37581356]It's a shame I am in California. I don't think I'd buy one as a daily driver anyway, though. They're sick but the fuel economy would kill me.[/QUOTE] Oh I wouldn't DD it either. Mine would be on standby until I needed it for one reason or another. They're the size of semi tractors so parking them can get a bit tedious in places :v:. The mileage actually isn't that bad, though. Given how large and un-aerodynamic it is, the 8 city 12 highway they average is pretty damn good. For something to keep handy in case you either need to tow something heavy or need to sort out a small flood/blizzard you can't really go wrong with a Deuce.

[QUOTE=Ericson666;37579965]Wow, so the Pontiac guy: A. Didn't keep his eyes on he road B. Was talking on his cell phone C. Drove 30MPH over the speed limit, near a crosswalk Fucking hell[/QUOTE] With holidays I went to Florida, Miami Beach this summer, there was a woman driving straight through red light (we were walking by over the road) with ~120km/h while driving with cellphone in hand, if I did one more step I'd be under that car. Fucking ridiculous.