• Israel: "nah lol cba" on investigating a Gaza airstrike which left 12 civilians dead
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[QUOTE=danelo;40280358] killing 1.5 million in the process basis.[/QUOTE] wait what
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40278305]Facepunch is so stupid. They are incredibly biased towards Israel even though most people support Israel based on moral rights and some logic. I'm sick and tired of every single Israel thread here that is biased against Israel and people wonder why Israel ignores the UN and the Human Rights Council considering how many hypocritical Israel enemies are on it. Israel may not be perfect but it's sure as hell a lot better than all the other countries in the middle east. The Palestinians just use violence over and over again and wonder why Israel is so hesitant to give them a state. If they had been more peaceful they could of had their state a while ago. They also blame Israel for their conditions when it's their own fault. Everything Israel has done that has made life more complicated for the Palestinians was for security reasons. Also when Palestinian militants were firing into Israel not one Arab leader said a damn thing to condemn it. If they actually wanted peace they would condemn any violence towards anyone. You also never hear Palestinians say lets try to analyze this from the Israeli point of view. They never sympathize ever for their aspirations and yet Israelis feel good when life for them is better. I'm just sick and tired of this.[/QUOTE] Automatically rated Funny and Boxes cause obviously Facepunch knows what's better for humanity. Everybody here clearly knows all the cons and pros and both sides of the conflict so well to just click and rate a post they think is untrue. SH is full of shit. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply?" - Megafan))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40280676]Is your IQ 70 or what? Israel has not been putting Palestinians in concentration camps, rounding them off and shooting them. I honestly think that the average facepuncher has a really low IQ if they think that Israel=Nazis. The Jewish people have been oppressed longer than ANY other people including black people and hated constantly being exiled from their land. They hated living in Europe and Jerusalem is mentioned over 500 times in the bible while its mentioned 0 times in the quran. Palestine was never mentioned in the quran either. It even says in the quran to let the children of israel live in their land. They don't even follow their own religion. From being oppressed so much and missing their land they realized they would only be safe in their OWN land with their OWN majority. From a moral standpoint the creation of Israel was the right thing to do. There is absolutely no evidence that they have starved them or slaughtered them. Some civilians have died from Israel targeting militants who hide their weapons in Mosques and other public areas while hiding behind their own civllians, targeting Israeli civllians. This is a double war crime. The PA is basically a terrorist organization. They have an armed Fatah wing which targets Israeli citizens. They truly want to live in peace. I honestly don't understand why people feel so bad for the Palestinians. Maybe I would give them more sympathy if they didn't think it was right to use violence and suicide bombers against Israel and a lot of them would stop hating Jews in general. You can't complain that your living conditions are bad when it's your OWN fault from using violence. If anybody needs to change their behaviour it's the Arabs. If they keep using violence over and over again (Hamas, Fatah militant groups) it's just going to make Israel more resistant to give them more land. After all they already did land withdrawals and it didn't cut down on attacks at all. It actually increased them. So from the Israeli standpoint SECURITY is a must and they are rightfully concerned about it. Also you guys are really stupid if you think it's not a religious/ethnic conflict when it is. The PA media spews out anti-Jewish propaganda. They say things like Israel uses blood of the Palestinians. Yes there are some moderate Palestinians but I would argue that the majority of them are not.[/QUOTE] Cute. So basically "WAAAAAAAH, JEWS WERE OPPRESSED. BOO HOOO. This means anything that Israel does to other people is justified and totally acceptable, because people from past generations were oppressed." Flawless logic, 10/10. Are you fucking insane? Do you know the way Palestinians are massacred by IDF airstrikes and bombs? In return, one or two palestinian fighters launch a homemade rocket or blow up a bus, and suddenly that's fucking unacceptable? Israel brought this on themselves. They deserve everything they're getting, because the land isn't theirs. I feel truly sorry for the innocents who die in both Israel and Palestine, but by god, Israel's government is to blame for all of this. ALL of it. [editline]14th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MoarFunz;40280706]Automatically rated Funny and Boxes cause obviously Facepunch knows what's better for humanity. Everybody here clearly knows all the cons and pros and both sides of the conflict so well to just click and rate a post they think is untrue. SH is full of shit.[/QUOTE] Post an argument that refutes all the evidence posted here and you actually have a point.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;40280658][img]http://i.imgur.com/DYvBkOc.png[/img] Source: [I][URL="http://books.google.com/books/about/A_Survey_of_Palestine_Under_the_British.html?id=KBSDam2TDaEC"]A Survey of Palestine prepared by the British Mandate for the UN[/URL][/I], p. 566. 6%.[/QUOTE] The British and the Europeans really messed up boundaries under European colonization. The made artifical Arab countries irrespectable of the existing ethnic groups and they also promised to give the Jews west of the Jordan River but they didn't. Jordan should really be the Palestinian state as 70% of the population is Palestinian, but I guess the king of Jordan would see it as a threat to his rule if it were converted into a Palestinian state. it should have been in transjordan They did this in Africa too. Screw European colonization.
Dude, I may be known around here by others as being anti-israel and such, I don't care anyway. People like you disgust me, Intel Inside, how can you stand by israel's side and claim that it's okay what they're doing? If someone would invade your house and claim it as theirs that's okay? Oh what if they go genocide your family's ass? How would that feel? Before israel went there it was KNOWN AS PALESTINE, nothing else, but because it wasn't registered as an official country is it okay to actually go inside and kill all the people over there and claim it theirs? the State of israel shouldn't even be there, they were never welcomed anywhere. Take a look at Germany, up to this date they pay money for the stuff that happened in WW2 to israel, does that seem right to you? Oh right, it helps zionism, I'm sure it feels right. You may of heard of that quote or something similar, "Those who win write history", of course, israel won against Palestine, it was backed up by many countries, such as the UK, the USA. Etc. I just hope one day they get extinct. I may get banned for voicing my opinion, but where's the democracy these days? Ciao. P.S Don't argue with me, because I don't care about your opinion furthermore, have fun you and your israhell.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40280711]Cute. So basically "WAAAAAAAH, JEWS WERE OPPRESSED. BOO HOOO. This means anything that Israel does to other people is justified and totally acceptable, because people from past generations were oppressed." Flawless logic, 10/10. Are you fucking insane? Do you know the way Palestinians are massacred by IDF airstrikes and bombs? In return, one or two palestinian fighters launch a homemade rocket or blow up a bus, and suddenly that's fucking unacceptable? Israel brought this on themselves. They deserve everything they're getting, because the land isn't theirs. I feel truly sorry for the innocents who die in both Israel and Palestine, but by god, Israel's government is to blame for all of this. ALL of it. [editline]14th April 2013[/editline] Post an argument that refutes all the evidence posted here and you actually have a point.[/QUOTE] Fuck you asshole. What happened to the Palestinians has NOTHING to do with Jews being oppressed and they are not being oppressed anywhere near what the Jews endured. Under MORAL rights Jews need their own land. If there were no Israel a lot of Jews would be under bad conditions in Europe. A lot of Muslim extremists have moved to Europe recently and attack Jewish synogugues. If you think what happened to the Jews is just BOOHOO then really fuck you and GTFO unsympathetic asshole History of Jewish persecution from [url]http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution/[/url] Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism Lesser Known Highlights of Jewish International Relations In The Common Era (an Abbreviated sampling) DATE PLACE EVENT 250 C.E. Canhage Expulsion 224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion 325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion 351 C.E Persia Book Burning 357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation 379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning 415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion 418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion 469 C.E. Ipahan Holocaust 489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning 506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning 519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning 554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion 561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion 582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion 612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion 628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion 629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion 633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion 638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings 642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion 653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion 681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion 693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved 722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed 855 C.E. Italy Expulsion 876 C.E. Sens Expulsion 897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation 945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel 1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre 1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre 1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion 1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive 1063 C.E. Spain Massacre 1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre 1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred 1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre 1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre 1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive 1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom 1140 C.E. Germany Massacres 1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre 1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre 1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive 1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres 1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings 1181 C.E. France Expulsion 1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation 1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks 1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive 1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive 1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation 1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre 1212 C.E. Spain Rioting and blood bath against the Jews of Toledo. 1215 C.E. Rome Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the "badge of shame" in all Christian countries. Jews are denied all public sector employment, and are burdened with extra taxes. 1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests 1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges 1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established 1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre 1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation 1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned. 1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated 1240 C.E. England Book Burning 1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion 1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned 1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks 1255 C.E. England Blood libel in Lincoln results in the burning / torture of many Jews & public hangings. 1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks 1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks 1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks 1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a "pointed dunce cap." Thousands murdered. 1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats 1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive 1270 C.E. England The libel of the "counterfeit coins" - all Jewish men, women and children in England imprisoned. Hundreds are hung. 1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion 1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks 1279 C.E. Hungary & Poland The Council of Offon denies Jews the right to all civic positions. The Jews of Hungary & Poland are forced to wear the "red badge of shame." 1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks 1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive 1290 C.E. England King Edward I issues an edict banishing all Jews from England. Many drowned. 1291 C.E. France The Jewish refugees from England are promptly expelled from France. 1292 C.E. Italy Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community. 1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the "Desecrated Host" is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion. 1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel's Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period. 1306 C.E. France Expulsion 1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive 1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned 1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions 1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered 1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive 1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion 1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive 1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion 1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion 1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered 1368 C.E. Toledo 8,000 Jews Slaughtered 1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack 1377 C.E. Huesca (Spain) Jews Burned Alive 1380 C.E. Paris Mob Attack 1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder 1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion 1389 C.E. Prague Mass Slaughter & Book Burning 1391 C.E. Castille, Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordova, Cuenca & Barcelona Forced Conversions & Mass Murder 1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion 1394 C.E. France Expulsion 1399 C.E. Posen (Poland) Jews Burned Alive 1400 C.E. Prague Stake Burnings 1407 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack 1415 C.E. Rome Talmud Confiscated 1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive 1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion 1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion 1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion 1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive 1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion 1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion 1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion 1449 C.E. Toledo Public Torture &. Burnings 1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion 1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion 1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion 1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion 1463 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack 1473 C.E. Andalusia Mob Attack 1480 C.E. Venice Jews Burned Alive 1481 C.E. Seville Stake Burnings 1484 C.E. Cuidad Real, Guadalupe, Saragossa & Teruel Jews Burned Alive 1485 C.E. Vincenza (Italy) Expulsion 1486 C.E. Toledo Jews Burned Alive 1488 C.E. 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Russian Villages Expulsion 1808 C.E. Russian Countryside Expulsion 1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion 1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion 1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia Expulsion 1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked & Wrecked Jewish Synagogue 1862 C.E. Area under General Grant's Jurisdiction in the United States Expulsion 1866 C.E Galatz (Romania) Expulsion 1871 C.E. Odena Mob Attack 1887 C.E. Slovakia Mob Attacks 1897 C.E. Kantakuzenka (Russia) Mob Attacks 1898 C.E. Rennes (France) Mob Attack 1899 C.E. Nicholayev Mob Attack 1900 C.E. Konitz (Prussia) Mob Attack 1902 C.E. Poland Widespread Pogroms 1904 C.E. Manchuria, Kiev & Volhynia Widespread Pogroms 1905 C.E. Zhitomir (Yolhynia) Mob Attacks 1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion 1915 C.E. Georgia (U.S.A.) Leo Frank Lynched 1919 C.E. Prague Wide Spread Pogroms 1920 C.E. Munich & Breslau Mob Attacks 1922 C.E. Boston, MA Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard, calls for Quota Restrictions on Jewish Admission 1926 C.E. Uzbekistan Pogrom 1928 C.E. Hungary Widespread Anti-Semitic Riots on University Campuses 1929 C.E. Lemberg (Poland) Mob Attacks 1930 C.E. Berlin Mob Attack 1933 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attacks 1938-45 C.E. Europe Holocaust [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Starpluck))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=MoarFunz;40280706]Automatically rated Funny and Boxes cause obviously Facepunch knows what's better for humanity. Everybody here clearly knows all the cons and pros and both sides of the conflict so well to just click and rate a post they think is untrue. SH is full of shit.[/QUOTE] It's because his argument is so nonsensical and unstructured it's quite embarrassing to read and goes along like "ISRAEL IS SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES, BTW HAMAS SHOOTS ROCKETS AT THEM, ALSO WHEN ISRAEL WAS BORN THEY WERE ATTACKED BY EVERYONE"
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40280769]Fuck you asshole. What happened to the Palestinians has NOTHING to do with Jews being oppressed and they are not being oppressed anywhere near what the Jews endured. Under MORAL rights Jews need their own land. If there were no Israel a lot of Jews would be under bad conditions in Europe. A lot of Muslim extremists have moved to Europe recently and attack Jewish synogugues. If you think what happened to the Jews is just BOOHOO then really fuck you and GTFO unsympathetic asshole History of Jewish persecution from [url]http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution/[/url] Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism ///[/QUOTE] Nice list, it doesn't excuse what Jews have done to the Palestinians in the past and present.
But then by MORAL right dont the Palestinians deserve their own land free from a state that is continually oppressing them?
[QUOTE=Lamar;40280800]Nice list, it doesn't excuse what Jews have done to the Palestinians in the past and present.[/QUOTE] Yeah I think you guys are mentally retarded equating Israel to the Nazis and thinking Jews are being soooo bad to the Palestinians. Really boo fucking hoo to you feeling so bad for people who want to see your DESTRUCTION.
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40280769]Fuck you asshole. What happened to the Palestinians has NOTHING to do with Jews being oppressed and they are not being oppressed anywhere near what the Jews endured. Under MORAL rights Jews need their own land. If there were no Israel a lot of Jews would be under bad conditions in Europe. A lot of Muslim extremists have moved to Europe recently and attack Jewish synogugues. If you think what happened to the Jews is just BOOHOO then really fuck you and GTFO unsympathetic asshole History of Jewish persecution from [url]http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution/[/url] Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism [/QUOTE] Oh, you dumb mother fucker. What I'm saying to you is that it doesn't fucking matter what happened to the Jews in the past, what Israel is doing today is NOT excusable. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Don't respond to flames by flaming back" - Starpluck))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Intel Inside;40280825]Yeah I think you guys are mentally retarded equating Israel to the Nazis and thinking Jews are being soooo bad to the Palestinians. Really boo fucking hoo to you feeling so bad for people who want to see your DESTRUCTION.[/QUOTE] ALL CAPS
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everyone was an asshole to me, therefore i have the right to be an asshole to anyone too!
Well there goes the whole fucking argument
good thread guys same time tomorrow?
The irony is If Israel us justified to kill innocent palestinians because a few militants represent the whole Palestinian people wanting to destroy and take over Israel under Intel's logic, then isnt Hitler justified for doing the holocaust because he was ridding of a people who were attacking his people (jewish resistance)? [editline]14th April 2013[/editline] Dont rape me Im just showing the flaw in his argument
i love watching people argue about things they don't know much about
You can't say that Intel Inside wasn't trying :v:
[QUOTE=Thom12255;40279866]idk i guess you're pretty smart about this xD[/QUOTE] Since when does using idk mean you're an emoticon kid?
[QUOTE=zeromancer;40281013]You can't say that Intel Inside wasn't trying :v:[/QUOTE] More like trying too hard without realizing none of the shit that happened to the jews back in the middle ages matters anymore. I think once a generation of humans completely dies out, it's time to start anew. Israel won't be able to use the holocaust as a excuse to force others into submission forever.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;40281119]Since when does using idk mean you're an emoticon kid?[/QUOTE] Actually I misread your comment and thought you were accusing me of knowing nothing so I was nasty. I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Big Blue;40280984]i love watching people argue about things they don't know much about[/QUOTE] I actually just got my information from Wikipedia and yahoo.answers to be honest.
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