Trump explains why he doesn't need daily briefings: “You know, I’m, like, a smart person”
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[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51514190]Frank Underwood [sp]blackmailed and murdered a man to further his political ambition[/sp] and Pence policies caused a AIDS epidemic iirc and funded gay conversion therapy, I'd say they're about the same.[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen Chris Christie since he took the DC metro with Pence.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51514149]I think this entire narrative that Pence, a literal who up until his nomination, has more control over the direction of this burgeoning administration than the President-elect is dubious at best.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like by saying "a literal who", you're trying to downplay the fact that he is about to be the vice president under a president with literally no government experience, who has been revealed in this thread to be passing on important presidential duties to this said soon-to-be VP. But yeah, I do agree that jumping straight to saying he will be [I]more[/I] powerful than the president isn't exactly a reality just yet.
[QUOTE=Morgen;51514221][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/245604958618148864[/media]
:speechless:[/QUOTE]
Everything about this tweet is just gold.
"Our dime" when Trump brags about never paying taxes.
The obvious hypocrisy.
Why is Trump even a thing that happened.
Leave it to Donald Trump to feel intellectually threatened by an "intelligence" briefing.
[QUOTE=Chonch;51514076]No, and I have faith the administration will shape up in this regard as the inauguration nears. That's all I have to say on the subject.[/QUOTE]
That's fair. This is all currently speculative. My warning bells are going off and have been throughout this election cycle. I want to be wrong in thinking Pence is going to be running the show, but until things start pointing in another direction I'm going to remain dissatisfied. Pence's political activism has been so unacceptable to me that Trump's selection of him for VP would have alone been enough to break my trend of voting 3rd party.
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I said I like him as a [I]politician[/I], not necessarily for his policies. He exudes a very no-nonsense, calm attitude that I find appealing. I appreciate the very hands-off approach he has taken in the past when it comes to economic legislation. A flat-tax could mean any number of different tax schema, but it could be very effective if reduced to a zero-deduction income-focused plan taken in a lump sum from the source (read: businesses rather than individuals). I think the patriot act has some very useful provisions in regards to the tracking of financial industry data, but again it's a very wide collection of both good and bad ideas that's hard to take a definitive stance on. I'm going to need you to be more specific on the "warhawk" subject, though at this point we're wildly off topic. We can discuss this over PMs if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
He's definitely a statesman, but policy is far more important to me than composure. He's been somewhat hands off in economic matters. I can give you that. His interest in the gold standard and his desires to privatize social security and medicare are very different from the sorts of policies that I'd like to see implemented. Those sorts of issues are ones we should be focused on discussing. Pence is unique in that he is willing to push social conservative policy at the expense of economic matters however.
I can also agree that the Patriot Act has come with some utility. As for Pence being a warhawk, he was strongly for the invasion of Iraq and seems to favor military intervention in general. I'd rather keep things open instead of discussing shit over PMs because even if I disagree with you on a lot of matters concerning policy, you've been more willing to talk than most, and I'd like others to see that. I don't think you're deserving of some of the vitriol that's been directed your way.
"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term
[QUOTE=dvc;51514355]"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term[/QUOTE]
It's a possibility. And as this year proves, that is all that is enough.
We need to stand firm and treat him as a serious threat.
[QUOTE=dvc;51514355]"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term[/QUOTE]
He's a delusional egomaniac. I'm sure he thinks he'll be so popular they'll repeal the 22nd Amendment to let him be president for even longer.
christ can someone at least please slip him some fucking ritalin every morning
[QUOTE=dvc;51514355]"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term[/QUOTE]
There have been less than a dozen one-term presidents in our nation's history. I wouldn't be so presumptive; even Bush Jr. got two terms.
Perhaps it's a little early to be talking about or predicting next election already, but if Trump won this one I would definitely say there is some chance for him to win another.
[QUOTE=Exooodus;51514462]Perhaps it's a little early to be talking about or predicting next election already, but if Trump won this one I would definitely say there is some chance for him to win another.[/QUOTE]
hopefully his core voter base realise what's up. I think they will. only a relatively small percentage are cult like lunatics (that is, every subscriber of /r/the_donald)
[QUOTE=TheHydra;51513378]every day i wish that john kasich were trump's VP[/QUOTE]
I feel like Kasich let the country down by refusing Trump's offer, he denied the offer as a protest to Trump. He, like most people, didn't see the need because he felt Trump would lose. But Trump won, and Kasich [I]could[/I] have taken up the offer to do damage control, instead he refused on some false sense of honor and now Trump / Pence run the fucking country. Thanks Kasich.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51514535]I feel like Kasich let the country down by refusing Trump's offer, he denied the offer as a protest to Trump. He, like most people, didn't see the need because he felt Trump would lose. But Trump won, and Kasich [I]could[/I] have taken up the offer to do damage control, instead he refused on some false sense of honor and now Trump / Pence run the fucking country. Thanks Kasich.[/QUOTE]
Kasich couldn't see into the future and realise that Clinton would fuck up the campaign. Nor do I think he would have wanted to set a precedent that the VP has the real power and that the President means little.
Hindsight is 50 50.
[QUOTE=dvc;51514355]"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term[/QUOTE]
To be fair the fact he ever got elected at all should show that it's more likely than you think.
If people voted for Trump once despite how blindingly obvious it was that he's going to be a total fuck up- what's stopping them voting for him again after he's fucked up. It really is feels before reals at this point, as long as Trump can avoid the blame for any shit his presidency causes- [i] even if it's painfully clear to anyone paying attention that he was responsible [/i] there's nothing stopping him getting elected again.
[QUOTE]He added that Vice President-elect Mike Pence and his top generals are receiving the highly classified briefings -- and said he’s always available to receive extra briefings if there are fast-changing situations that need his attention.[/QUOTE]
Trump will be fed information by his cabinet as it suits their needs, giving them complete control over what he hears and doesn't hear.
He is proudly proclaiming that he will be manipulated.
[QUOTE=dvc;51514355]"Next Eight years"
Does he honestly think he has any chance at getting a second term[/QUOTE]
One of my Dad's sayings is, "Never question how stupid people can be, George Bush Jr. got elected twice."
[QUOTE=markfu;51514832]One of my Dad's sayings is, "Never question how stupid people can be, George Bush Jr. got elected twice."[/QUOTE]
To be fair, that was during a time of war, so I'm not surprised as major commitments like war seem to make people want to stick to their current leadership. That being said, with Trump's cult of personality, I would not be surprised to see people begging for Trump again, even if he spits in the face of Net Neutrality, action against Climate Change, etc.
[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51514865]To be fair, that was during a time of war, so I'm not surprised as major commitments like war seem to make people want to stick to their current leadership. That being said, with Trump's cult of personality, I would not be surprised to see people begging for Trump again, even if he spits in the face of Net Neutrality, action against Climate Change, etc.[/QUOTE]
trump only won because he was up against the most incompetant campaign in the history of america, any real challenger would've crushed him
I would believe the reason he's actually doing this is that it's boring and complicated and he doesn't actually understand what they're telling him so he'd rather just avoid it
[QUOTE=Judas;51514910]trump only won because he was up against the most incompetant campaign in the history of america, any real challenger would've crushed him[/QUOTE]
+ like 70% of his platform has already been doubled back on or just plain dropped from the agenda, so assuming he doesn't lose all his other campaign promises by then his only policy will be a tough stance on immigration and regulation - just like any other generic Republican
Hey look, another thread of crying Bernie supporters that make poorly written, snarky comments while refusing to watch the interview this was taken from.
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[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;51515127]Hey look, another thread of crying Bernie supporters that make poorly written, snarky comments while refusing to watch the interview this was taken from.[/QUOTE]
I've watched the interview. Have you? Because I'm struggling to find any positive side to this.
[B]e:[/B] And now I'll never know. The ban game was too strong.
Setting himself up to be the perfect pawn. Great idea.
[QUOTE=Judas;51514910]trump only won because he was up against the most incompetant campaign in the history of america, any real challenger would've crushed him[/QUOTE]
No disagreements there at all. I'm still pretty steamed at the DNC for shitting the bed so hard in what should have been a cakewalk of an election.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51515110]I would believe the reason he's actually doing this is that it's boring and complicated and he doesn't actually understand what they're telling him so he'd rather just avoid it[/QUOTE]
The PDB is written by people whose sole job it is to condense complex intelligence information into a comprehensive, but easily digestible form. [url=https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005976577.pdf]Have a look at this one from the CIA's FOIA archive[/url]- it's not hard for anyone with a modicum of geopolitical awareness to follow along. There's no defense for him having his head rammed so far up his ass that he doesn't think he needs to be informed on what's going on in the world.
[quote=Trump] next 8 years [/quote]
I doubt it, but maybe that's being optimistic.
[QUOTE=Muthenfrucheir;51515553]I doubt it, but maybe that's being optimistic.[/QUOTE]
There is definitely an avenue for it but he is starting from a bad position. He won by narrow margins in a few states this his opponent didn't even bother campaigning in for the most part. His popular vote deficit is 2.8 million which is rather astonishing. If his promises to rejuvenate those Rust Belt states don't come to fruition I can easily see a Democratic populist taking them back and undercutting Trump's only real demographic.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51515667]There is definitely an avenue for it but he is starting from a bad position. He won by narrow margins in a few states this his opponent didn't even bother campaigning in for the most part. His popular vote deficit is 2.8 million which is rather astonishing. If his promises to rejuvenate those Rust Belt states don't come to fruition I can easily see a Democratic populist taking them back and undercutting Trump's only real demographic.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, the old-school Republicans don't like him, and as long as they control Congress, they might oust him at the earliest opportunity, if he gets in their way, or even just becomes a hindrance come midterms.
Or if Trump dies... he'll be 80 by then, he hasn't exactly lived the healthiest lifestyle, and the office has a tendency to age people quickly.
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