June 7 Primaries - "Clinton has applied Bern cream" edition
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What was your toxx OP?
[QUOTE=usaokay;50475039]I can honestly see Bernie winning in California since I've seen more support for him than Hilary.
I don't think I have ever seen a single Hilary Clinton supporter yet. Everywhere I go is just Bernie supporters.[/QUOTE]
Same here, almost all the signs and stickers and stuff I've seen around LA County have been for Bernie. Can't say I truly expect that to mean too much, but hey, it's kinda cool. I even saw a big mural of him somewhere once.
So i've heard turnout in California is horrible, because most of the votes were done by mail.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50475114]What was your toxx OP?[/QUOTE]
If Bernie loses 4 or more states in the June 7 primary with 40% of less of the vote in each state lost, permaban
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50475135]So i've heard turnout in California is horrible, because most of the votes were done by mail.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, the place I went to said the turnout was pretty regular. It certainly wasn't packed, but most of the booths were taken up, and this is in a town of less than 2,000.
I did my part
go bernie
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50475135]So i've heard turnout in California is horrible, because most of the votes were done by mail.[/QUOTE]
I guess its harder to suppress people from voting if they are sent by mail.
Clinton leads in Montana with 49.3% of the vote at 0% in
Interestingly enough I overheard the pollworkers complaining about how many people came in thinking that they were registered for Dem when the record said Republican or Independent, and there were two people in the polling room with me complaining about how the record said that they were republicans when they were apparently lifelong dems.
Also, if you're in California, you have less than an hour (until 8 PM) to get in line. If you haven't voted yet you still have time to get your butt over there. You just have to be in line by that time.
Holy fucking shit that singing at the Clinton event
Oh god
Edit: they brought someone out to sing that "land of the free and all the rest of it etc" song and she could not sing it was pretty horrible
Edit2: yeah the national anthem, that's the one!
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50475151]I guess its harder to suppress people from voting if they are sent by mail.[/QUOTE]
I guess it's hard to suppress people from voting at all anyways, as well as being illegal, hence why it doesn't happen.
[QUOTE=sb27;50475169]I guess it's hard to suppress people from voting at all anyways, as well as being illegal, hence why it doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]
I wish I was so naive.
[QUOTE=sb27;50475169]I guess it's hard to suppress people from voting at all anyways, as well as being illegal, hence why it doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]
Never happened
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States[/URL]
[QUOTE=Paramud;50475187]I wish I was so naive.[/QUOTE]
I wish I was naive enough to believe that voter suppression is happening just because my preferred candidate isn't winning.
[QUOTE=sb27;50475194]I wish I was naive enough to believe that voter suppression is happening just because my preferred candidate isn't winning.[/QUOTE]
Everyone saw Bill Clinton within 150m of of polling in Massachusetts, which is illegal and which delayed voters by hours and blocked traffic. No one is going to arrest the former President though, he's too politically powerful.
[QUOTE=Tacooo;50475198][media]https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/740367017203601411[/media]
RIP[/QUOTE]
How many times now has Clinton declared herself the victor?
[QUOTE=Tacooo;50475198][media]https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/740367017203601411[/media]
RIP[/QUOTE]
Without California even being counted yet. Lmao
[QUOTE=phygon;50475155]Interestingly enough I overheard the pollworkers complaining about how many people came in thinking that they were registered for Dem when the record said Republican or Independent, and there were two people in the polling room with me complaining about how the record said that they were republicans when they were apparently lifelong dems.[/QUOTE]
In California at least, there's a distressing number of people who register as Independent thinking that it means they're independent voters. It doesn't. To do that, you need to register as no party preference.
The American Independent Party is a far-right secessionist party, and over half of its members don't even realize they're a part of it.
Anyway just voted, Cali also has like four different ballots available for people who're no-party-preference.
Clinton just congratulated Sanders for an "extraordinary campaign" and said it has been good for the Democratic Party and America
weird, i re-registered as dem. not realizing that i could fill out any ballot as non-partisan, but when I got to the polling place i was still registered as non-partisan. still worked out in the end, but weird regardless
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50475206]Everyone saw Bill Clinton within 150m of of polling in Massachusetts, which is illegal and which delayed voters by hours and blocked traffic. [/QUOTE]
Source? You're incredibly useful Wikipedia link that you substituted for citations or legitimate sources or anything even approaching an argument doesn't have anything other than a story about Clinton visiting a polling place where he did nothing other than shake hands and take pictures. Someone in the article implies that his "very presence" may be soliciting votes but that's absurd and falls well short of what could be considered in a civil case against him for breaking the 150ft rule.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;50475206]No one is going to arrest the former President though, he's too politically powerful.[/QUOTE]
Nobody even brought the case up, the story died on social media.
She gave a shout out to campaign finance reform
[QUOTE=sb27;50475194]I wish I was naive enough to believe that voter suppression is happening just because my preferred candidate isn't winning.[/QUOTE]
Did you see what happened in Arizona, or Puerto Rico? Or New York, to a lesser extent? How about the electioneering in Massachusetts?
Note that I'm not claiming this as the reason he lost. Voter suppression definitely happened, though.
She's now moving on to the #FuckTrump section of her speech
Bernie owes it to his people to not let the movement die even if it means playing dirty at the convention.
He should play his last cards to get a good bargaining position. At the very least make Hillary agree to sign some of his policies.
I really dislike the tone that politicians like Hillary speak in, sounds so robotic
[QUOTE=Prez;50475262]I really dislike the tone that politicians like Hillary speak in, sounds so robotic[/QUOTE]
What do you expect from a corporate drone
[QUOTE=rilez;50475239]Did you see what happened in Arizona[/QUOTE]
Arizona was a clusterfuck, agreed.
[QUOTE=rilez;50475239]or Puerto Rico? [/QUOTE]
Last I heard, all Democrats (including Bernie supporters) on the ground said they were getting mixed messages from campaign management.
[QUOTE=rilez;50475239]Or New York, to a lesser extent? [/QUOTE]
A smaller clusterfuck but one that occurred in a state that Clinton was invariably going to win anyway, meaning any voter suppression hurt her as much (I'd argue more) than it did Sanders.
[QUOTE=rilez;50475239]How about the electioneering in Massachusetts?[/QUOTE]
Nonstory as far as I can tell.
[QUOTE=rilez;50475239]Note that I'm not claiming this as the reason he lost. Voter suppression definitely happened, though.[/QUOTE]
I think the problem is "voter suppression" is a very intentional sounding word, but then it includes things like long lines which very may well have been simple, unbiased bureaucratic fuckups. There are also the Sanders supporters who want to make it a Bernie vs Hillary issue when a lot of said "voter suppression" impacted both candidates, meaning that an intentional attempt to suppress votes probably wasn't coming from Democrats, if it was intentional at all.
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