[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293740]I rest my case, you're a moron.[/QUOTE]
ditto
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293744]It wouldn't if everyone would shut the fuck up and stop caring.[/QUOTE]
Can you even comprehend why people care about their religion?
Bill O'Reilly pays man's WBC court costs: cynical PR stunt
Richard Dawkins tries to arrest the Pope: LOL GUD 1 DAWKINS!!!! U GO GIRL?!?!!!??!
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293771]Can you even comprehend why people care about their religion?[/QUOTE]
Because people are illogical, like you.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;21293758]You suppose that without religion, extremists would not exist and wars would end?[/QUOTE]
I suppose without religion, religious extremists would not exist, and we would not have wars over religion.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293789]Because people are illogical, like you.[/QUOTE]
But, you somehow are logical.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21293674]How is calling something illogical, or irrational forcing a belief down someones throat?[/QUOTE]
Stating whether or not its logical in itself isn't shoving it down your throat.
It's when you got a nine-page thread almost entirely devoted to a bunch of antitheists trying to bludgeon the theists with their [b]opinion[/b] that it's illogical.
Keep in mind I'm operating out of a nihilist mode, though - the subjectivity of objectivity (AKA questioning the legitimacy of things widely considered objective [such as logic])
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293789]Because people are illogical, like you.[/QUOTE]
Do you think that maybe they care about their religion because they honestly believe they will go to hell or heaven? And that this would actually influence their real world decisions?
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[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;21293817]Stating whether or not its logical in itself isn't shoving it down your throat.
It's when you got a nine-page thread almost entirely devoted to a bunch of antitheists trying to bludgeon the theists with their [b]opinion[/b] that it's illogical.
Keep in mind I'm operating out of a nihilist mode, though - the subjectivity of objectivity (AKA questioning the legitimacy of things widely considered objective [such as logic])[/QUOTE]
Logic isn't subject to an opinion bro.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293791]I suppose without religion, religious extremists would not exist, and we would not have wars over religion.[/QUOTE]
But the same extremism would exist in the minds of people just as it does today. If not religion, then nationalism would be the cause, or yet another belief. Ending religion wouldn't be some miracle cure for all of these problems.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293820]Do you think that maybe they care about their religion because they honestly believe they will go to hell or heaven? And that this would actually influence their real world decisions?[/QUOTE]
That's hugely irrational.
I have to kill people or I believe the voices in my head will hurt me :ohdear:
[QUOTE=petieng;21293755]I don't think a conclusion can ever be reached on whether there is a god, but I believe one can be reached on whether we should worship a god.
For me, it already has been concluded in the 'a god cannot be all loving and all powerful' argument.[/QUOTE]
You summed my thoughts up perfectly.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293820]Do you think that maybe they care about their religion because they honestly believe they will go to hell or heaven? And that this would actually influence their real world decisions?[/QUOTE]
And you you think that if everyone stopped caring whether or not god exists, they still would? Because news flash, everyone not caring would accomplish everything you want to accomplish.
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21293816]But, you somehow are logical.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I am.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;21293838]But the same extremism would exist in the minds of people just as it does today. If not religion, then nationalism would be the cause, or yet another belief. [b]Ending religion wouldn't be some miracle cure for all of these problems.[/b][/QUOTE]
1% better.
Nationalism can also be argued against logically, I don't think logically because I'm an atheist, I'm an atheist because I think logically.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293896]I don't think logically because I'm an atheist[/QUOTE]
I agree
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293880]And you you think that if everyone stopped caring whether or not god exists, they still would? [b]Because news flash, everyone not caring would accomplish everything you want to accomplish.[/b]
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Yeah I am.[/QUOTE]
fantastic, go convince people who believe in hell not to fear going to hell.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293880]And you you think that if everyone stopped caring whether or not god exists, they still would? Because news flash, everyone not caring would accomplish everything you want to accomplish.
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Yeah I am.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, lets not care and just stay in our caves. That's better.
And no, you're really not.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;21293788]Bill O'Reilly pays man's WBC court costs: cynical PR stunt
Richard Dawkins tries to arrest the Pope: LOL GUD 1 DAWKINS!!!! U GO GIRL?!?!!!??![/QUOTE]
What do those have to do with each other?
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293907]I agree[/QUOTE]
woah man that was so funny!!11 i never would have thought u would do that!11
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21293932]Yeah, lets not care and just stay in our caves. That's better. [/QUOTE]
Cause apathy about god will totally lead to apathy about everything else.
For someone so logical you seem to not grasp how stupid slippery slope arguments are.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21293840]That's hugely irrational.
I have to kill people or I believe the voices in my head will hurt me :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
The only reason it's irrational to you is because you were born with a neurologically susceptible brain and in a society where it's considered reasonable to be an atheist.
Were you played another card in the genetic lottery it would not be the same situation.
Voices in your head aren't supported by every culture ever created, and certainly aren't backed by thousands of years of philosophy. They don't seek to answer unanswerable questions that the human psyche yearns to know (such as, why is humanity here?) and they are a clearly defined neurological condition.
Despite atheism being very clearly true to the select group of people who are practically bombarded with proof (i.e frequent internet users), the vast majority of people in the world don't have the same information pertaining to their religious beliefs.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;21293944]What do those have to do with each other?[/QUOTE]
He's pointing out the bias of people, because Dawkins can easily be pulling a PR stunt too.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21293951]woah man that was so funny!!11 i never would have thought u would do that!11[/QUOTE]
thnx bro
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293996]He's pointing out the bias of people, because Dawkins can easily be pulling a PR stunt too.
[b]thnx bro[/b][/QUOTE]
i was being sarcastic, your a tool
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21294019]i was being sarcastic, your a tool[/QUOTE]
oh really I didn't realize you have a lot to teach me about this "sarcasm" because I have no clue how to do it you're so smart man
[QUOTE=Regulas021;21293955]The only reason it's irrational to you is because you were born with a neurologically susceptible brain and in a society where it's considered reasonable to be an atheist.
Were you played another card in the genetic lottery it would not be the same situation.
[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously trying to argue that religion is something you are born predisposed to
Seriously
SERIOUSLY
[QUOTE=Mexican;21293954]Cause apathy about god will totally lead to apathy about everything else.
For someone so logical you seem to not grasp how stupid slippery slope arguments are.[/QUOTE]
You seem to not comprehend that believing in a god is illogical. Before it's logical to be apathetic about something, shouldn't you first check whether or not that thing has an impact in the world?
[QUOTE=lazyguy;21293788]Bill O'Reilly pays man's WBC court costs: cynical PR stunt
Richard Dawkins tries to arrest the Pope: LOL GUD 1 DAWKINS!!!! U GO GIRL?!?!!!??![/QUOTE]
Really now
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21294071]You seem to not comprehend that believing in a god is illogical. Before it's logical to be apathetic about something, shouldn't you first check whether or not that thing has an impact in the world?[/QUOTE]
Whether or not god exists has no direct impact on the world. Whether or not people believe god exists does.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21294052]oh really I didn't realize you have a lot to teach me about this "sarcasm" because I have no clue how to do it you're so smart man[/QUOTE]
well see, that right there was sarcasm.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21294071]You seem to not comprehend that believing in a god is illogical. Before it's logical to be apathetic about something, shouldn't you first check whether or not that thing has an impact in the world?[/QUOTE]
There is nothing illogical about believing in a god. Many aspects of organised religion can be show to be illogical, but not the belief in a god.
[QUOTE=petieng;21294140]There is nothing illogical about believing in a god. Many aspects of organised religion can be show to be illogical, but not the belief in a god.[/QUOTE]
Explain to me how the belief in god has any basis on logic
go on I'll wait
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