• Goodbye Gandalf: Ian McKellan has a sad last day with Peter Jackson
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I'll stop geeking out now. I've never been a fan of anything before I discovered Tolkien, and I'm still a fan of nothing else.
[QUOTE=archangel125;41856027]Ian, you're not done yet, you magnificent bastard. They still haven't filmed The Silmarillion, and they'll need you to play Gandalf again, as Olorin of the Maiar.[/QUOTE] A Silmarillion movie would be interesting, but I think if they took up any other LotR material Children of Hurin would lend itself to film better (though Gandalf isn't in that as far as I know/remember).
[QUOTE=Greenish_;41856715]A Silmarillion movie would be interesting, but I think if they took up any other LotR material Children of Hurin would lend itself to film better (though Gandalf isn't in that as far as I know/remember).[/QUOTE] No, Gandalf did basically nothing of note until the Third Age, if I remember correctly. I agree with you completely, though. Even a movie based simply around the Children of Hurin or even the story of Beren and Luthien would satisfy me - Especially if Peter Jackson were directing.
He's looking really old. My guess is after this and the next Xmen movie he'll be quitting acting. At least with the fast paced demanding movies.
[QUOTE=archangel125;41856668]Let's say that LOTR spans a year or two and the Silmarillion spans the millenia that came before. It covers everything from the creation and formation of Middle Earth to the sundering of the Elves to the creation of Balrogs to the rise of the evil demi-god Morgoth (To whom Sauron was but a servant) and the story of the Silmarils, gems created by Feanor the elf, of which Earendil bears one, (As is alluded to in LOTR) All of the songs, all of the poems, all of the obscure references in LOTR suddenly make sense. And it's beautiful. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] The Maiar, by the way, are essentially lesser gods, of which Gandalf and Saruman are a pair. The Maiar who fell to evil early in Morgoth's reign became the Balrogs. Most were destroyed when Morgoth was overthrown by the Valar (The 'good' gods) but some, like Durin's Bane, survived by hiding deep in the earth. Gandalf's true name is Olorin, and Saruman is Curunir. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Tom Bombadil is also one of the Maiar, but staying and making the Old Forest his domain, he has absolute power over it. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Basically, if you haven't read the Silmarillion, do. Tolkien's lore has depths you've never imagined. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Here's a fact you'll learn. Elrond's brother, who was also half-elven, became the founder of the Numenorean race, that Aragorn is a part of. So when Aragorn marries Arwen, it could be said he's marrying a distant relative about a hundred generations removed. Aragorn himself is eighty years old at the start of the LOTR story, but has the outward appearance and vigor of a twenty-year-old due to his Numenorean blood.[/QUOTE] I thought that Tom Bombadil was of a race even more powerful than the Maiar, possibly the only one of his kind. He was entirely incorruptible to the ring's effects while even Gandalf and Saruman weren't (He even puts it on and gives it back to Frodo and nothing happened, and he was able to see Frodo use the ring to become invisible,) because it was implied that he was of an entirel different kind. It is never explained what he is, but it is implied that he is one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth, second only to Sauron. (At Rivendell, they mention that Bombadil can't take the ring because he is so indifferent to the affairs of the rest of the world and so indifferent to the ring that he would probably lose it out of ignorance rather than spite, and that if Sauron gains the ring even Bombadil would fall, though he would probably be the last to do so.)
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;41857017]I thought that Tom Bombadil was of a race even more powerful than the Maiar, possibly the only one of his kind. He was entirely incorruptible to the ring's effects while even Gandalf and Saruman weren't (He even puts it on and gives it back to Frodo and nothing happened, and he was able to see Frodo use the ring to become invisible,) because it was implied that he was of an entirel different kind. It is never explained what he is, but it is implied that he is one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth, second only to Sauron. (At Rivendell, they mention that Bombadil can't take the ring because he is so indifferent to the affairs of the rest of the world and so indifferent to the ring that he would probably lose it out of ignorance rather than spite, and that if Sauron gains the ring even Bombadil would fall, though he would probably be the last to do so.)[/QUOTE] I've always thought about it in a different way. Tom's power is invested entirely in the Old Forest, even as Sauron's power is invested entirely in the Ring. So, within its boundaries, he's like a god. Sauron, too, was one of the Maiar. He was the most powerful of them, if I remember right, and that power led to ambition that made him follow Morgoth, who made of him a lieutenant. Tom is incorruptible by the Ring because he wields power over nature, but the Ring offers its bearers power over other mortals - Something Tom has no interest in at all.
I like to think that Tom is of a different sort, possibly some spiritual manifestation of Middle Earth itself. That's one of those things that was left intentionally ambiguous, though. Another point is that the ring corrupts even those who want no command over men. Only two people have ever willingly given up the ring, both Hobbits (I believe that their lack of desire for power gives them some resistance but not total immunity,) and even fewer have found themselves able to resist the ring's effects outright. I explain that by saying Tom's being is an entirely alien makeup to that of the rest of the world's creatures. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Also, I forget. I remember the Dwarven lords were immune to the powers of seven rings because they were so haughty. Were they resistant to the powers of the one ring as well? I want to say no.
there were the same feelings at the end of lord of the rings filming.
Christopher Lee was fucking 79 when the first LOTR Trilogy movie was released. He's still live and kicking by the way.
That picture made him seem like he'd just finished some sort of battle, for some reason.
[QUOTE=ironman17;41858423]That picture made him seem like he'd just finished some sort of battle, for some reason.[/QUOTE] Well either they didn't shoot the Battle Of Five Armies 'til that point or it's just him looking a bit beat up after the battle.
This is from June 28th
And then they get called back for pickup shots.
Best grandpa ever.
Lol that's sad :(
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