"Fuck me, or go to jail" — State Trooper gets just 6 months for raping car accident victim
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[QUOTE=No Party Hats;49876800]The concept of a permenant break is exactly what holds our mental care system back so much 'lol nothing we can do lock em up!'
I'll listen to the hypotheses of specialists, not fp posters[/QUOTE]
Just to quote a portion of my post for relevance:
[QUOTE=wauterboi;49876439]It's permanent in that they're never going to be suitable for return to society with the current state of psychology. Once you pass a certain point, there isn't any going back.[/QUOTE]
If you can find some evidence that someone can fix Charles Manson so that he's suitable for re-entry into society, feel free to show me. I haven't found any myself, but I'm willing to listen. Until you provide that information then it's really shitty to say, "Well, your hypothesis is unscientific and therefore useless." I'm not suggesting that it is anything more than what it is. It's just what I've been thinking, no need to start a big fuss about it. If you were to do that, I don't know how you would function in [I]any[/I] thread on Facepunch without saying, "You can't say anything about that, you've never built a processor" or "You can't say anything about that, you've never been a game developer" or "You can't say anything about that, you've never been a politician". It's just needlessly condescending, especially when you yourself confuse even the basics of science (hypothesis vs. theory) and me shooting the shit about what I imagine to be the truth as me actually stating what the truth is.
As it stands, I really do want people to get better. There was a huge chunk of my life where I really wanted things for murderers and rapists and stuff to get better. Either by nature they lack human empathy or they have to change to reach that monster mold. And to think of the process that converts a person from functioning human to monster human is seriously disturbing and extremely unfortunate. It's why I have favorite serial killers - when you can trace the origin for their madness you can develop empathy. But my empathy means nothing if it can't fix them up enough to bring them back to society even though I absolutely would if I could.
Even though I've mentioned it in the past plenty of times in the past, I've had a friend murdered. Don't know who killed her. My first impulse upon discovering that was thinking they were cowardly, but moments later I was thinking about how they could get help and get over both the tragedies they've committed and function well enough so that they don't do it again. But what I wan't isn't aligned with reality. What I want psychology to provide isn't aligned with reality. Being psychologically unrepairable is definitely a thing, even though that's most likely not the technical word for that. But feel free not to listen to that and focus more on how I don't know the absolute technicality of these situations.
Seriously though: I'd rather people refute my statements with actual sources. That's not because I'm looking for a heated debate or whatever, but because I really do want to learn about these things because I find them to be interesting. I think that our mental heathcare system in the US is disgustingly bad.
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