[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;40071170]you know who else put up anti-jewish propaganda?
hitler
~wake up america~[/QUOTE]
now this is godwin :v:
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;40071170]you know who else put up anti-jewish propaganda?
hitler
~wake up america~[/QUOTE]
Are you sitting in a chair right now?
So did Hitler.
[QUOTE=scout1;40069074]Well alternatively we could let the monarchies/assad syria/pre-2003 Iraq have regional hegemony
Oh except that'd destabilize the whole area and be bad for everyone.[/QUOTE]
Actually, no. The Middle East was perfectly stable and even relatively amicable towards the United States before the CIA began to interfere in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. And the fact that the US has given so much support to Israel is now the primary reason that most of the Arab World hates Americans.
The Middle East didn't destabilize itself - The USA and Israel were responsible for that.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;40070959]Israel is a pro-West, regional superpower. It is immensely influenced by Western culture. It is an invaluable ally.
[editline]28th March 2013[/editline]
are you fucking serious[/QUOTE]
An "invaluable ally"? The one that attempted to false flag attack the US and one of it's allies? The one that is China's second biggest arms supplier, the one that sells US weapons and technology it received for free to the Chinese even though the US asks them time and time again to stop doing it? The one that has brought a massive amount of animosity from an entire region to the US, inviting 9/11, foreign wars, and the need for dumping tons of foreign aid all around the region in an attempt to quell it?
No, Israel is not an invaluable ally. The US would have been far better off without her.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;40068998]
[img]http://u.cubeupload.com/cubemanpro/wurm.png[/img][/QUOTE]
They should have dropped the word "Muslims" from the ad, there are the prejudices in the US and when you paint the victims and/or supporters as "Muslim" then they are hurting the cause.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;40070959]Israel is a pro-West, regional superpower. It is immensely influenced by Western culture. It is an invaluable ally.[/QUOTE]
Which seems to have a bad habit of fucking US interests every once in a while. Supporting them is stupid.
The whole "yeah but that gives us an ally in the middle east" is no excuse for Israel's barbaric acts and the fact we endorse it.
[QUOTE=MrBacon;40069892]Can't trust a nobel peace prize winner with the name Desmond Tutu.[/QUOTE]
Can't thrust a nobel peace prize winner with the name Obama either.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;40072866]
Furthermore, blaming Israel for 9/11 is utterly idiotic.[/QUOTE]
jews did wtc
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40070186]'we could let'
not really doing much to dispel the perception that america operates according to its own rules and does whatever the fuck it wants[/QUOTE]
The rule of letting ruthless dictators start aggressive wars, or the UN ones saying we should have peace in our time?
I mean if you want to go back 200 years we can put on red coats and start stomping all over those we don't like and steal their natural resources. [B]Or[/B] we could do this crazy things called diplomacy and geopolitics and keep a reasonably peaceful situation.
[QUOTE=TheFishyG;40073684]jews did wtc[/QUOTE]
And staged it so fanatic Muslims got blamed for it.
[I]Those crafty bastards[/I]
[QUOTE=Van-man;40074169]And staged it so fanatic Muslims got blamed for it.
[I]Those crafty bastards[/I][/QUOTE]
If it wasn't so ridiculous, it'd certainly help them receive more aid from the USA. That and their previous false-flag attacks against the United States don't make it absolutely inconceivable.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;40072866]You do realize most of those are common practices in politics, right? None of it is strictly confined to Israel-US relations. The US has countless of 'allies' that often do things against their interests, the reason such actions are tolerated is because losing an ally (aka losing Western influence) is stupid over such petty things.
Also to assume Israel single-handedly brought animosity to the region is absurd. Anti-Western sentiment has been building up and boiling in the region for decades and it is largely because of NATO interference in their political affairs during the Cold War. Israel has been seriously involved with only a handful of the nations surrounding it.
Furthermore, blaming Israel for 9/11 is utterly idiotic.[/QUOTE]
You are idiotic if you are willing to downplay any connection between 9/11 and Israel. It was one of the greatest motives to attack by those who organized it. Bin Laden himself has three times in his videos listed it as a motive for the attack. It has also been one of the expressed motives by Al-Qaeda years before the attack took even place.
furthermore, it's amusing that you imply an attempted false flag operation against the US and one of its allies a "petty" thing. I suppose you're implying Israel selling off US arms and technology to one of my country's greatest potential enemies is also a petty thing?
I'll say it again, the US would have been far better off without Israel. There is not point in having an ally that does more harm than good.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40071174]now this is godwin :v:[/QUOTE]
Didn't I tell you?
:pwn:
I'm confused at how there wasn't an uproar over the anti Palestine ads in the MTA subways in NY that referred to Palestinians as savages.
[QUOTE=Tagger;40074837]I'm confused at how there wasn't an uproar over the anti Palestine ads in the MTA subways in NY that referred to Palestinians as savages.[/QUOTE]
Wait, I thought the Jew-lords of Hollywood taught us that we were supposed to side with brown savages instead of civilized white folk. They need to work on their coordination.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40071373]Actually, no. The Middle East was perfectly stable and even relatively amicable towards the United States before the CIA began to interfere in Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. And the fact that the US has given so much support to Israel is now the primary reason that most of the Arab World hates Americans.
The Middle East didn't destabilize itself - The USA and Israel were responsible for that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, France and the UK drawing up make believe countries after WWI and WWII which divided people previously unified had absolutely nothing to do with it.
My grandmother recently went on a trip to Israel.
She saw a shirt that said,
[I]
"Don't worry America, we've got your back."[/I]
:|
Anyone else find it funny the guy that was saying we should get rid of our armies because then nobody would want to hurt each other anymore is also the guy who supports a country with mandatory enlistment who's foreign policy would make Machiavelli raise an eyebrow? Because I find that funny.
[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;40071243]Are you sitting in a chair right now?
So did Hitler.[/QUOTE]
that's bullshit, everyone knows that hitler never sat in a chair, ever.
[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;40079574]that's bullshit, everyone knows that hitler never sat in a chair, ever.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.cc.utah.edu/~cal13/hitler6.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40070921]This has nothing to do with ~PC culture~
Its vested interest.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, put a "~" in front of it. You sure showed him!
[QUOTE=theaceattourney;40079598][img]http://www.cc.utah.edu/~cal13/hitler6.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Is Hitler trying to pose with a poker face or bedroom eyes?
[QUOTE=ravenhurst;40070530]Voters don't even care about Israel. I don't want to sound anti-semetic or anything but it is all about that sweet jew banker pac money.[/QUOTE]
Voters do care about israel. About 80% of America is Christian and Israel is the Biblical holy land and the Jews are supposed to be God's chosen people, so Americans always vote pro-Israel because "it's what God wants" and politicians won't dare say anything against God in America.
[QUOTE=Black;40079936]Yeah, put a "~" in front of it. You sure showed him![/QUOTE]
and behind~
I don't think Israel will need the money at all.
Haven't they found huge oilfields already? Shitloads of oil, if I can remember correctly.
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