[QUOTE=Iago;41295438]"If you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about"
People like you are going to cause this to happen:
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"If you're willingly allowing people to see what you're doing, why are you worried about the government seeing what you're doing?"
Seriously. If I tweet a picture of my breakfast, I'm giving permission for EVERYONE to see my breakfast, and that includes the government. That's not the same as letting the government into my house in order to see it.
This country is so satirely Orwellian that I sometimes wonder if its a elaborate ruse.
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I don't really have an issue with these systems as long as they provide results[/QUOTE]
I don't have an issue with [I]this[/I] system, since it only grabs shit that anyone can grab if they wanted to. If I don't want said shit grabbed, I'd not put it up for grabs. The Prism system, however, grabs all my shit, grabbable or not.
I'm ok with this. I mean I'd rather it not happen, but it's not really an invasion of privacy since it's not looking through my private stuff.
Also the name fucking sucks but that's neither here nor there.
[QUOTE=lifehole;41294688]All of this just screams the saying we are all thinking in one way or another: A nation/society who is willing to give up a little freedom to gain a little security deserves neither, and loses both.[/QUOTE]
tbh i'd rather give up a lot of freedom for a lot of security
[QUOTE=Riller;41296046]I don't have an issue with [I]this[/I] system, since it only grabs shit that anyone can grab if they wanted to. If I don't want said shit grabbed, I'd not put it up for grabs. The Prism system, however, grabs all my shit, grabbable or not.[/QUOTE]
If you give your data to a server farm like Facebook, you're putting it up for grabs.
It's 2013, people should know by now that NOTHING you mark as 'private' is actually private. Nothing on the Internet is private. You're willingly giving information to a company and what they do with that information is beyond your control.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41296652]If you give your data to a server farm like Facebook, you're putting it up for grabs.
It's 2013, people should know by now that NOTHING you mark as 'private' is actually private. Nothing on the Internet is private. You're willingly giving information to a company and what they do with that information is beyond your control.[/QUOTE]
But Socmint is aparently only grabbing stuff you've set to public. Like, stuff some random dude would be able to grab, not actually digging into anything.
[QUOTE=Riller;41296672]But Socmint is aparently only grabbing stuff you've set to public. Like, stuff some random dude would be able to grab, not actually digging into anything.[/QUOTE]
I know. I'm just saying there is no practical difference whatsoever between the two. Both your public data and your 'private' data are being given to the same company and stored on the same server, and you have the same amount of control over how they're used, which is none whatsoever. Facebook in particular proves this point over and over again every time there is some outcry about misuse of 'private' data. Socmint only grabbing public data is a matter of convenience (they don't need cooperation from the companies that own the data), not of personal rights.
If you want it to be private, don't put it on the Internet.
As long as they're not going into private messages or content, I'm not as bothered, though this they probably are so fuck you British gov
[QUOTE=catbarf;41296809]I know. I'm just saying there is no practical difference whatsoever between the two. Both your public data and your 'private' data are being given to the same company and stored on the same server, and you have the same amount of control over how they're used, which is none whatsoever. Facebook in particular proves this point over and over again every time there is some outcry about misuse of 'private' data. Socmint only grabbing public data is a matter of convenience (they don't need cooperation from the companies that own the data), not of personal rights.
If you want it to be private, don't put it on the Internet.[/QUOTE]
Sites have privacy policies though and when they state that our stuff will stay private, it should.
[QUOTE=lifehole;41294688]All of this just screams the saying we are all thinking in one way or another: A nation/society who is willing to give up a little freedom to gain a little security deserves neither, and loses both.[/QUOTE]
It's not necessarily that we're/you're giving up freedom for security, but rather we've become too complacent as a society to actually raise a protest as we have everything we need.
If this really is only 'spying' on info people didn't hide through incompetence, I'm fine with it. I've always been one to push people to ensure their info is private on Facebook and made sure my family in particular keep their info under wraps.
[QUOTE=Tinter;41297168]Sites have privacy policies though and when they state that our stuff will stay private, it should.[/QUOTE]
Court orders make that null and void
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