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[QUOTE=Liber;37019922]Well, what would you do?[/QUOTE] Nothing at all, since this accomplishes nothing but making a persons life more complicated.
Pacifists are naive.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020247]Why are they naive? Isn't it okay to accept death rather than resorting to violence?[/QUOTE] If I can kill someone that wants to kill me, better them than me.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020247]Why are they naive? Isn't it okay to accept death rather than resorting to violence?[/QUOTE] If you dont mind being dead, more power to you. Id prefer to live my life all the way out thanks
We gave every nazi a trial but we can't even handle a shooting?
[QUOTE=Liber;37020247]Why are they naive? Isn't it okay to accept death rather than resorting to violence?[/QUOTE] If you don't feel like your life is worth protecting that's fine, but if someone is going to kill me I'd rather I gut the bastard and walk away from it.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020315]Well, what if someone wants to be remembered as a peaceful being? Death is inevitable so do you want your children to remember you as a murderer?[/QUOTE] Again, more power to you. Assuming this life is the only one I have, Im gonna try to make it as long as possible. :v:
it has began.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020315]Well, what if someone wants to be remembered as a peaceful being? Death is inevitable so do you want your children to remember you as someone who took anothers life?[/QUOTE] I think most children with dead parents would rather their parents have fought and killed the murderer than them be killed so they could remember them as a "peaceful being". But hey if you want to leave your kids behind to a worse life just because you don't want to kill some scummy bastard who is about to stab you then that's totally your call, I can respect that.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020315]Well, what if someone wants to be remembered as a peaceful being? Death is inevitable so do you want your children to remember you as someone who took anothers life?[/QUOTE] If someone takes the life of someone trying to murder them, they'll be remembered as a hero, not some psychopath.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020315]Well, what if someone wants to be remembered as a peaceful being? Death is inevitable so do you want your children to remember you as someone who took anothers life?[/QUOTE] That's a personal choice
[QUOTE=Liber;37020596]I won't :)[/QUOTE] Won't what? You wouldn't fight for your life? You sir are the next winner of the Darwin Awards.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020596]I won't :)[/QUOTE] Care to explain why a child with good parents would rather their parents die, than kill and live? I'm genuinely curious as to how that can be seen as preferable by anyone.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;37020666]Care to explain why a child with good parents would rather their parents die, than kill and live? I'm genuinely curious as to how that can be seen as preferable by anyone.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'd rather not make my kids an orphan.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020697]Think ahead 2000 years. Do you think violence will exist? Do you want it to exist? I don't. We can only change the world by changing our beliefs.[/QUOTE] It will still exist. It's getting worse. It boils down to I value my life more than some criminal that would want to kill me. I'm not going to bend over and let him stick it in me. I wouldn't hesitate to end the life of someone trying to kill me.
[QUOTE=faze;37020752]I wouldn't hesitate to end the life of someone trying to kill me.[/QUOTE] Id argue that youd have to be less than sane to not put up some sort of fight or st least try to run. Self preservation is a pretty basic instinct
[QUOTE=Liber;37020797]Well, I'd rather fight the issue rather than let it control me. But you won't change your mind, because it's such a big part of you, just like religion.[/QUOTE] If you don't want to protect yourself, enjoy dying.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020697]Think ahead 2000 years. Do you think violence will exist? Do you want it to exist? I don't. We can only change the world by changing our beliefs.[/QUOTE] Ever seen a Buffalo try to reason with a Lion? The Buffalo has something the Lion wants, and the Lion is going to take it whether the Buffalo likes it or not and one of them is going to die in the process. That is the single basic law on our planet and it's been that way for 500 million years, and if you don't fight when the time comes then your story is going to come to a very abrupt end and there will be no lights and music to mark your passing. The world isn't going to change for you.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;37021287]Ever seen a Buffalo try to reason with a Lion? The Buffalo has something the Lion wants, and the Lion is going to take it whether the Buffalo likes it or not and one of them is going to die in the process. That is the single basic law on our planet and it's been that way for 500 million years, and if you don't fight when the time comes then your story is going to come to a very abrupt end and there will be no lights and music to mark your passing. The world isn't going to change for you.[/QUOTE] Warfare is pointless.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37021317]Warfare is pointless.[/QUOTE] While that may be, there will always be someone out to get someone else no matter the reason, and when that time comes, it's a matter of asking yourself whether or not you want to lose your life.
[QUOTE=Verratene;37021388]While that may be, there will always be someone out to get someone else no matter the reason, and when that time comes, it's a matter of asking yourself whether or not you want to lose your life.[/QUOTE] Yeah but I don't need to shoot them in the face to make that point clear.
[QUOTE=faze;37018796]This is fucking bullshit. So instead of saving money by buying in bulk like we do at Sam's Club or BJ's, we get price gouged at gun stores. Fuck this country.[/QUOTE] Calm down. This won't pass.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37021317]Warfare is pointless.[/QUOTE] This is entirely dependent on the reasons for warfare. A foreign group decides your land is nice and fertile, decides to kill you and your people to take it. Do you bow down and allow their swords to separate your head from your body, or do you fight them off with everything you have? There are just as many good reasons to go to war in order to defend yourself as there are bad reasons to take what others have. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;37021428]Yeah but I don't need to shoot them in the face to make that point clear.[/QUOTE] You're not going to reason with them, your point is meaningless to an attacker, they're already resolved to kill you and get rid of you like so much garbage.
1: Buy flintlock/percussion rifle 2: Make gunpowder 3: Fire rocks :v: Where's your damn restrictions now?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37011989]You clearly have never owned or fired a gun. Even a short time at a firing range, you go through a lot of ammo.[/QUOTE] Last week, four friends and I went to a firing range with 4 guns and roughly 750 rounds of ammo, we ran out entirely within 3 hours.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;37021484]This is entirely dependent on the reasons for warfare. A foreign group decides your land is nice and fertile, decides to kill you and your people to take it. Do you bow down and allow their swords to separate your head from your body, or do you fight them off with everything you have? There are just as many good reasons to go to war in order to defend yourself as there are bad reasons to take what others have. You're not going to reason with them, your point is meaningless to an attacker, they're already resolved to kill you and get rid of you like so much garbage.[/QUOTE] Yes, but warfare doesn't solve problems, it just exacerbates them.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37021692]Yes, but warfare doesn't solve problems, it just exacerbates them.[/QUOTE] Except the whole Nazi thing, you know.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37021692]Yes, but warfare doesn't solve problems, it just exacerbates them.[/QUOTE] Then bow down and wait to be killed. You'll be dead but at least you stuck beliefs, not that it matters anymore because there's no one left alive to carry on with those beliefs.
There is no way this will pass. Even if it magically makes it's way to Obama's desk, (it probably won't get that far) he will most likely veto it in order to get more of the conservative vote.
[QUOTE=Liber;37020697]Think ahead 2000 years. Do you think violence will exist? Do you want it to exist? I don't. We can only change the world by changing our beliefs.[/QUOTE] I don't think you know how humans work.
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