• Google patents sticky coating to glue pedestrians to bonnet after crash
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[QUOTE=latin_geek;50351292]Can confirm most of the damage I sustained[B] the last time[/B] I got hit by a car didn't come from the car, but rather the pavement a second after[/QUOTE] Implying that this is not an isolated event?
People need to realize that when it comes to car impacts, it's not necessarily being hit by the car that kills you, it's the spine-breaking/skull-cracking tumble that ensues afterward. Our bodies are rather resilient toward direct blows, but they are highly vulnerable to twisting. Technically, if the adhesive is of a good quality, it could prevent people from being sucked under cars and being run over, too. The main question comes from "how do we prevent this glue from becoming coated in bugs and dirt and being rendered useless", barring the AI just removing a lid from the location moments before impact. Based on what was stated above, it sounds like it would need to scratch super-easy to actually have enough bondage to cling an adult human to it.
[QUOTE=Exploders;50350615]Usually thats what helmets are designed for, so if something smashes in, it wont hit you in the face.[/QUOTE] Someone should post that liveleak video of the brick that falls off a passing truck on the highway and goes through the windshield of the car and kills a mother of 2 in front of her children and husband. This is why I hate driving, people seriously overestimate the protective capabilities of a vehicle and furthermore the force of inertia of something moving at high speeds. So they don't use turn signals, fly through red lights and a whole other plethora of dumb things. I bet that truck driver thought his bricks wouldnt be strong enough to go through someones windshield and i mean theyre HEAVY righttt? No way wind from driving could fling one into a mother of 2's face, completely obliterating it and leaving them on the side of the road to stare at it. I think the wails of the son driving saying repeatedly "im sorry" over and over should honestly be played at driver ed for all vehicles, maybe people would understand that we should not take these things for granted.
Great for those families who cram 12 kids in a small car just stick them on the exterior
It might not be for the best. [IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/13/15/2B54BFFF00000578-3196380-The_car_was_secured_to_mooring_bollards_while_four_men_sat_on_th-a-33_1439475465360.jpg[/IMG]
Wouldn't this actually do more damage Without this, car his you, force is transferred to you, sending you flying, which is then reduced gradually by you sliding/bouncing off the floor, but with this, to me it seems car hits you, you get glued to the front of it, seems like more of the force would transfer. Plus I mean what if you hit the car in such a way that only your torso touched the bonnet, getting glued, leaving your legs to dangle/be bragged under the car/possibly run over.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50350544]One problem - highway debris?? You'd have rocks and planks and woodland critters and shit stuck to your hood all the time.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, here in New Mexico you'll get too much sand and tumbleweed debris in it for anything else to stick to it.
Sounds like a Carmageddon powerup, I am a fan I am kinda worried about extracting yourself from the car, though? If it's sticky enough to catch you in a crash situation, it would probably hurt like hell to peel yourself off of it
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;50353278]Wouldn't this actually do more damage Without this, car his you, force is transferred to you, sending you flying, which is then reduced gradually by you sliding/bouncing off the floor, but with this, to me it seems car hits you, you get glued to the front of it, seems like more of the force would transfer. Plus I mean what if you hit the car in such a way that only your torso touched the bonnet, getting glued, leaving your legs to dangle/be bragged under the car/possibly run over.[/QUOTE] It would help. When a car hits you the energy is transferred to you and you go onto the bonnet, essentially matching velocity with the car. The car driver brakes fairly sharply and because of a lack of friction between you and the car, the car stops but you just keep going and hit the ground. Modern cars are designed so that if you get hit you go onto the bonnet rather than go flying. It's a good idea with some potential but the awkward part would be getting the protective coating to not break when it didn't need to.
The coating's got to be very sticky to keep someone on the hood of the car, especially if they're going 40+ MPH and then slam on the brakes, the inertia from the person going from 0 to 40ish and then back down to 0 so quickly would mean the glue would have to be very strong. If it wasn't strong enough couldn't it just tear any exposed flesh off the pedestrian? Like when you rip off a band-aid on your arm and can see some tiny layer of dead skin or hair on the bandaid, but 100x worse. And if the coating only opens due to impact, what if the part of the person that slammed onto the hood and got stuck was only a small part of his body (certain areas of the torso), so his arms/legs/etc don't break the coating and thus most of his body is unattached and the force from motion would be tied to the single area(s) that's stuck? If the coating only breaks at weak enough force so that a flailing arm could get attached, how would that affect small rocks, bugs, etc? If the coating is very strong, it'd be hell to get those things off too unless there was some solution to pour on it to break apart the glue. Would hail or rain wash away the coating, and is the force of a raindrop or hail ball strong enough to get the adhesive to start working, but then the adhesive dries/gets a layer of particles on it limiting its effectiveness? Of course this is just me being terrible at physics and guessing and hopefully the engineers behind this thought it all out but it seems like an idea that might not work out.
Read that as "Google patents sticky coating to glue pedestrians to [b]botnet[/b] after crash", still accurate that way though. Interesting thing to see a primarily software company patent a new physical coating of sorts.
[QUOTE=Morgen;50353434] It's a good idea with some potential but the awkward part would be getting the protective coating to not break when it didn't need to.[/QUOTE] I think this is why they're suggesting it to be used on driverless cars. They're able to tell whether they're braking because of an obstacle, car or a sudden pedestrian. It'd presumably only trigger on the latter when it's needed
[QUOTE=kaze4159;50370386]I think this is why they're suggesting it to be used on driverless cars. They're able to tell whether they're braking because of an obstacle, car or a sudden pedestrian. It'd presumably only trigger on the latter when it's needed[/QUOTE] How do you break the coating rapidly electronically though?
[QUOTE=Morgen;50370988]How do you break the coating rapidly electronically though?[/QUOTE] Patents aren't always 100% feasible, I imagine that's the one thing stopping them from actually trying to implement this :v: An alternative would be to combine it with volvo's pedestrian airbag system. Airbags on the outside of the car coated with adhesive deploying in a collision
imagine getting hit by one of google's driverless cars and then being stuck on the hood all day as it just drives around
Yay I no longer need to hook belts up to each front door to play Ship's Mast.
[QUOTE=SleepyAl;50353982]The coating's got to be very sticky to keep someone on the hood of the car, especially if they're going 40+ MPH and then slam on the brakes, the inertia from the person going from 0 to 40ish and then back down to 0 so quickly would mean the glue would have to be very strong. If it wasn't strong enough couldn't it just tear any exposed flesh off the pedestrian? Like when you rip off a band-aid on your arm and can see some tiny layer of dead skin or hair on the bandaid, but 100x worse. And if the coating only opens due to impact, what if the part of the person that slammed onto the hood and got stuck was only a small part of his body (certain areas of the torso), so his arms/legs/etc don't break the coating and thus most of his body is unattached and the force from motion would be tied to the single area(s) that's stuck? If the coating only breaks at weak enough force so that a flailing arm could get attached, how would that affect small rocks, bugs, etc? If the coating is very strong, it'd be hell to get those things off too unless there was some solution to pour on it to break apart the glue. Would hail or rain wash away the coating, and is the force of a raindrop or hail ball strong enough to get the adhesive to start working, but then the adhesive dries/gets a layer of particles on it limiting its effectiveness? Of course this is just me being terrible at physics and guessing and hopefully the engineers behind this thought it all out but it seems like an idea that might not work out.[/QUOTE] So use a glue weak enough not to tear skin off, that reacts with oxygen in to something brittle or less sticky, and find a coating that requires more then dirt/small debris to be damaged? Anything brittle and hard could potentially qualify for the coating, something like hardened glass has no wear and tear but an high enough force shatters the entire plate. And the whole purpose is about deploying it on automatic vehicles, so you don't have to 40 to 0 instantly after hitting the person. But worse case scenario you would have to overcome the force required for the glue to let you go, and you would hit the pavement less hard.
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