• Obama faces growing credibility crisis
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[QUOTE=radioactive;23365917]Oh well, they can just vote in the Republicans and it will all be fine and dandy for 6 years and then economic meltdown again, and then the Democrats will come in and try to fix what the Republicans fucked up, then the Republicans get put into power after the Democrats get called communists by stupid people and then the Republicans run fine and dandy for another 6 years and then yet another economic meltdown. And it goes on and on and on and on. American politics is fairly stupid.[/QUOTE] These are the joys of a two party system and the tyranny of the majority.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23366581][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To[/media][/QUOTE] [url=http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/pagedetails.action?granuleId=&packageId=BILLS-111hr3590PP]PPACA, final draft, posted in its entirety Dec 24 2009, three months before it passed.[/url]
This is why I am planning on leaving America. The politics here are so fucked up. It's disgusting.
[QUOTE=Athena;23366714][url=http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/pagedetails.action?granuleId=&packageId=BILLS-111hr3590PP]PPACA, final draft, posted in its entirety Dec 24 2009, three months before it passed.[/url][/QUOTE] Three months to shape a 1017 page bill which radically changes our health care and who knows how much time they took to type it up. Obama was in a hurry to get it passed, you can't deny that.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23366917]Three months to shape a 1017 page bill which radically changes our health care and who knows how much time they took to type it up. Obama was in a hurry to get it passed, you can't deny that.[/QUOTE] Nerp [editline]12:44AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragy;23366495]It never was gonna do anything except cost us more and dig us deeper. If it was done more properly, it could have worked. I'm O.K. with health reform, but putting out a crappy reform in a few months wont work.[/QUOTE] "if it was done more properly" You mean if the republicans hadn't taken a huge shit on it from low earth orbit Whatever. This is not my country. I don't care if your military spending eclipses literally everything that has potential to be useful. It's not my god damn business.
[IMG]http://shopuncleharrys.dukestores.duke.edu/images/chips%20071.jpg[/IMG] How in fucks fuck did you not include salsa doritos in your post? They are godly. [B]They don't even sell these in america anymore for some fucked up reason.[/B] Atleast not in the northwest. So I head up to Canada and buy shit tons of bags of salsa doritos every once in a while. Also 3D doritos were THE BOMB [B] EDIT:[/B] Lol oops wrong thread.,
[QUOTE=Ragy;23366917]Three months to shape a 1017 page bill which radically changes our health care and who knows how much time they took to type it up. Obama was in a hurry to get it passed, you can't deny that.[/QUOTE] HR3590 was introduced in September 09.
I can forsee a civil war arising from this, idiotic as it may seem, People are going to be pissed about how we run this country. one possible ending is in bloodshed.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;23367059]I can forsee a civil war arising from this, idiotic as it may seem, People are going to be pissed about how we run this country. one possible ending is in bloodshed.[/QUOTE] It[B] is[/B] idiotic.
[QUOTE=Akasolidus;23366401]Well can't say this was unexpected. He hasn't filled many of his expectations.[/QUOTE] he still has another two years to carry out his promises.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23367174]he still has another two years to carry out his promises.[/QUOTE] Two years isn't much time when your the president of a super country.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23367329][QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23367174]he still has another two years to carry out his promises.[/QUOTE] Two years isn't much time when your the president of a super country.[/QUOTE] especially with republicans getting in his way hindering his ability to get his promises made
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;23367059]I can forsee a civil war arising from this, idiotic as it may seem, People are going to be pissed about how we run this country. one possible ending is in bloodshed.[/QUOTE] I don't think it'll get that bad. This country has weathered far tenser political climates than this one. [editline]08:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragy;23367329]Two years isn't much time when [B]your[/B] the president of a super country.[/QUOTE] you're It's not much time when you have half of Congress filibustering everything you do.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;23365547]The economic crisis has ruined his whole presidency.[/QUOTE] It's ruined his presidency, just like it ruined Bush's, and no doubt if it isn't solved by the end of Obama's term it'll ruin the next president as well. The American people are just going to keep switching back and forth until someone gets lucky enough that the economy solves itself. Then they'll be a hero!
[QUOTE=Ragy;23367329]Two years isn't much time when your the president of a super country.[/QUOTE] With that logic nobody would ever get anything done.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;23367369]I don't think it'll get that bad. This country has weathered far tenser political climates than this one. [editline]08:04PM[/editline] you're It's not much time when you have half of Congress filibustering everything you do.[/QUOTE] Hence the "Party of No". It's one thing when you don't agree, but it's just stupidity when you refuse to work together with the opposite party because they are the opposite party.
I didn't vote for barack osama homo bin laden , and I'm glad i didn't. He has been an awful president
[QUOTE=whatnow V2;23368668]I didn't vote for barack osama homo bin laden , and I'm glad i didn't. He has been an awful president[/QUOTE] I'm not sure anyone can take this post seriously
[QUOTE=Foda;23368470]Hence the "Party of No". It's one thing when you don't agree, but it's just stupidity when you refuse to work together with the opposite party because they are the opposite party.[/QUOTE] Don't get into the illusion that it's just the Republicans that do this. Democrats are just as guilty. It's politics, and it's stupid.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;23367059]I can forsee a civil war arising from this, idiotic as it may seem, People are going to be pissed about how we run this country. one possible ending is in bloodshed.[/QUOTE] You're a fucking idiot.
Don't worry Obama I trust you,
[QUOTE=bigbigzubra;23369054]I'm not sure anyone can take this post seriously[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;23369961]You're a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE] it's a joke idiots.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23366214]He does everything behind closed doors which in his campaign said he would never do. He's a liar.[/QUOTE] You suck at being a republican. If you are a republican, DO IT RIGHT. If your wrong, shut up. If your right go at it. But your just being a dumbass here.
It couldn't be the Republicans being complete babies and trying to halt anything that the Democrats attempt to accomplish. They must try to counter EVERYTHING, including company rape.
[QUOTE=Foda;23368470]Hence the "Party of No". It's one thing when you don't agree, but it's just stupidity when you refuse to work together with the opposite party because they are the opposite party.[/QUOTE] Some of this is actually the fault of the people. For example, the healthcare bill was originally a bipartisan effort, however as the congressmen returned to the states the represented for congress' summer recess, the message they were met with from their constituents was a resounding "No" to the healthcare bill. This helped to cement the position of the Republicans in Congress.
I don't understand all the bashing. The environment he walked into when he first started, he had a whole pile of shit already on his lap. Hes doing as much as a good job as he can. The things that I fucking hate him for was his stance on net neutrality. He was pro it, now hes behind closed doors making deals with the EU, RIAA and MPAA with this ACTA bullshit, that'll destroy our freedoms on the internet. I know he got paid off for that, but that beside the point, his credability in my opinion, hasn't been effected by the economy. Just because he has done what he could, its the corporations that are making things stagnant, and the senate and reps are just prolonging the stalemate.
[QUOTE=Roof;23366563]I wish someone like J.F.K. was still around :sigh:[/QUOTE] JFK din't actually do most of his proposed legislation because of you know what. Most important reforms were passed under LBJ. I wish LBJ was still around.
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