Anti-Bullying Ambassador arrested for pushing a 74 year old man to the ground outside Trump Tower
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That face is irritatingly punchable.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;51363289]This is an example of civil disobedience, which is a trend that is only going to rise now that Trump is the president-elect. While I don't condone violence, civil disobedience is the individual's best weapon in combating evil regimes, and is what got the U.S civil rights amongst other things. You make the bed you lie in, old man.[/QUOTE]
This isn't civil disobedience. This is a putrid cunt pushing an old man to the ground for not agreeing with her. How about she lies in that bed instead? Preferably for seven years in jail where she belongs.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51362906]Trump popped the bubble a lot of Americans were living in. Its understandable that they lash out because they have been able to dismiss the other side of the political spectrum until his victory.
I hope all of the anger and violence comes out sooner rather than later, so we can unite when Trump takes office. Eventually I hope these feelings channel into people becoming more involed in politics, and hopefully reforming the DNC or killing it altogether and starting over after the this disaster of an election cycle.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you're going to see a lot of unity with Trump as president.
At best some parts of the right and left might unify against Trump, that counts right?
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51363681]This isn't civil disobedience. This is a putrid cunt pushing an old man to the ground for not agreeing with her. How about she lies in that bed instead? Preferably for seven years in jail where she belongs.[/QUOTE]
7 years for pushing someone to the ground like a dumbass lol
[sp]our justice system would actually do it too which is sad[/sp]
when somebody says all lives matter and you feel like it is taking away from the message of blm, you know what you should fucking do?
Talk to them, explain why it doesn't help to say All lives matter when you believe there is a major problem that targets blacks.
Wtf am I talking about you resort to violence and push them around literally until they believe you of course what was I thinking
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51363638]Civil disobedience is a peaceful disobeying of laws. A good example would be the MLK era sit ins/boycotts.
What is not civil disobedience is knocking an old man to the ground. That's assault.[/QUOTE]
You can't asssault white men.
Assault = prejudice + power
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51363078]What a scummy toad. This [B]political left [/B]that has grown so much the last years have really turned people into intolerant monsters who cannot handle other peoples opinions. Debate doesn't exist anymore, because they will try and overshout and threaten instead.[/QUOTE]
I really wish everytime someone makes a broad assumption of an entire political group based on a few extremists, be it left or right, that I could blast an airhorn at their face.
This a problem of both parties becoming more extreme, we need to remedy that with cooperation. We can start with not making broad assumptions
[QUOTE=Butthurter;51363444]fp used to call out amber heard saying she completely duped everyone about her abuse just because paparazzis caught her smiling out and about with her friends the day after court
smiling pictures mean jack shit[/QUOTE]
I'm not really saying that smiling pictures are a tell tale sign that someone's guilty.
I don't know who Amber is but saying she was lying because she was smiling the day after being assaulted is completely and absurd. There's proof this scumbag couldn't control themselves and attacked an old man.
I don't think the two are very comparable.
[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;51363289]This is an example of civil disobedience, which is a trend that is only going to rise now that Trump is the president-elect. While I don't condone violence, civil disobedience is the individual's best weapon in combating evil regimes, and is what got the U.S civil rights amongst other things. You make the bed you lie in, old man.[/QUOTE]
"If I call it something else I can pretend that I don't condone violence" :downs:
[QUOTE=Lurklet;51362921]Lets keep in mind she could have been smiling about anything and the photographer caught her at the right time. No need to suggest she was grinning about shoving the guy to the ground, not to say that was okay at all.[/QUOTE]
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She sure does it alot.
[QUOTE=Tidusete;51363268]I hope you guys don't mind me quoting Solzhenitsyn[/QUOTE]
The gulag archipelago has never been so relevant in the west. You really shouldn't have to apologize for pulling it in to any discussion
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She sure does it alot.[/QUOTE]
it doesnt look good, but we must remember that they can be taken out of context.
If you find me a video or some proof that she was smiling BECAUSE she thought that she was in the right/smug/you know what I mean, then I will drop this
[QUOTE=da space core;51365254]it doesnt look good, but we must remember that they can be taken out of context.
If you find me a video or some proof that she was smiling BECAUSE she thought that she was in the right/smug/you know what I mean, then I will drop this[/QUOTE]
Wish granted.
[url]http://abc7ny.com/news/singer-charged-with-assault-during-nyc-anti-trump-protests-speaks-out/1601843/#videoplayer[/url]
Though I do completely know what you mean and understood the apprehensiveness.
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She did a crummy thing but the people who say "all lives matter" are the worst. Which doesn't justify her actions but still.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51366386]She did a crummy thing but the [B]people who say "all lives matter" are the worst.[/B] Which doesn't justify her actions but still.[/QUOTE]
Care to justify that sweeping generalization?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51366386]She did a crummy thing but the people who say "all lives matter" are the worst. Which doesn't justify her actions but still.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to burst whatever bubble you are in, but Black Lives Matter was a socially clumsy name to call their group.
All lives matter, and that doesn't make me an ignorant person to the historical disenfranchisement of black people.
So please, tell me how I am the worst despite how I am ready to actively defend a black person in a situation that legitimately calls for it.
Either way, BLM is a group that at this point is completely tarnished and I can't support it.
[QUOTE=Sombrero;51366779]Care to justify that sweeping generalization?[/QUOTE]
Well, it completely misses the point of the black lives matter movement and two it's just not productive or useful for addressing the problem of police brutality and police militarization. If people want to say all lives matter and are getting out and protesting and pushing for police reform, that's kickass, I don't even think BLM overall would take issue with you if you were both actually working towards a similar cause. But it hasn't really happened, all lives matter is usually just said to rile up BLM supporters, and a lot of white people, asians, hispanics, etc. are already working within BLM.
The point is that black lives matter too. There is a looong history of distrust between the black community and the police and overall justice system because of how they are structured and function, and black lives matter is an attempt to push reforms to remedy that. It does affect other races, but it disproportionately affects black people and as a result the movement sprung from their community.
It's kind of like how gender inequality fucks with both genders, but women historically had the shortest end of the stick, so we got feminism first and the name has pretty much just stuck.
[QUOTE=Sombrero;51366779]Care to justify that sweeping generalization?[/QUOTE]
I really really dont like "all lives matter" because its a way of putting yourself on a moral pedestal while completely missing the point of BLM and the inherent meaning behind the slogan. Black Lives Matter means "Black Lives Matter [B]TOO[/B]", not "[B]ONLY[/B] Black Lives Matter" which is what people who say All Lives Matter take it for. All in all it just makes you come off as entirely ignorant to the issue (therefore discounting your opinion on the matter entirely) while at the same time giving off an air of smug superiority.
Its like, yeah its true, all lives do matter, but you're completely ignoring context
[QUOTE=Sombrero;51366779]Care to justify that sweeping generalization?[/QUOTE]
It's like running into a cancer ward when you have a cold saying "I TOO AM VERY SICK". Yes white lives matter nobody was questioning that and yes the lives of police are important, this was never really in question. You're speaking about a race of people whose live have historically not mattered or mattered 3/5ths the amount that white lives do.
People who say ALL LIVES MATTER lack some serious perspective, is what I am saying.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51367079]People who say ALL LIVES MATTER lack some serious perspective, is what I am saying.[/QUOTE]
No, people who say "All Lives Matter" don't buy into your implied "too", if that's what they meant then they should say it, but it's not part of the brand.
Several of you run around justifying it like it's some obvious truth, but the fact is that "truth" doesn't spread along with the brand itself.
I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon!". I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're chasing down "whitey" to "beat day ass". I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're physically assaulting people for saying "All Lives Matter".
Stop with the bullshit, we don't buy it and they don't preach it.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367232]No, people who say "All Lives Matter" don't buy into your implied "too", if that's what they meant then they should say it, but it's not part of the brand.
Several of you run around justifying it like it's some obvious truth, but the fact is that "truth" doesn't spread along with the brand itself.
I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon!". I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're chasing down "whitey" to "beat day ass". I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're physically assaulting people for saying "All Lives Matter".
Stop with the bullshit, we don't buy it and they don't preach it.[/QUOTE]
You dont have to buy it I guess, but its factually the case lol
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367232] I don't believe they mean "Black Lives Matter Too" when they're chasing down "whitey" to "beat day ass".
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ah right, so you're just here to stereotype. got it
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51367263]ah right, so you're just a racist. got it[/QUOTE]
Fuck you.
Nice editing out you calling me racist.
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[QUOTE=Duck M.;51367263]You dont have to buy it I guess, but its factually the case lol[/QUOTE]
I don't buy it. BLM wants police officers, the majority of which are white, to put their lives on the line in order to not kill black citizens, even when they are putting the officer's lives at risk. This is shown over and over again when BLM continues to use rhetoric surrounding justified shootings like Michael Brown.
BLM cares about black lives and black lives only.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367284]Fuck you.
Nice editing out you calling me racist.
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I don't hear anyone saying Black Lives Matter. Also jesus this dude narrating is racist.
[editline]13th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;51367296]BLM cares about black lives and black lives only.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah but whether that means at the expense of not black people is another thing entirely.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367284]Fuck you.
Nice editing out you calling me racist.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDHa31HiaQ[/media][/QUOTE]
Where's the connection to BLM?
[editline]13th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;51367296]I don't buy it. BLM wants police officers, the majority of which are white, to put their lives on the line in order to not kill black citizens, even when they are putting the officer's lives at risk. This is shown over and over again when BLM continues to use rhetoric surrounding justified shootings like Michael Brown.
BLM cares about black lives and black lives only.[/QUOTE]
I think you're oversimplifying it and misrepresenting the issue. What BLM wants is more accountability from police departments and individual officers. I have no issues with justified force when necessary. Also, like Lambeth said, "BLM cares about black lives and black lives only" isn't really an inherent negative as it doesnt come at the expense of other races, but at the same time I dont feel as if that's true. I've seen and met plenty of BLM supporters that actively campaign for justice for victims of other races as well. It's just like how feminism does not only apply to women, as gender disparities and politics do negatively affect men as well. The focus is on their namesake though because of their origin and because of how their target issues disproportionately affect them.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51367306]I don't hear anyone saying Black Lives Matter. Also jesus this dude narrating is racist.[/QUOTE]
The guy who doesn't agree with groups of people hunting other people down based on the color of their skin is racist, cool beans.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51367313]Where's the connection to BLM?[/QUOTE]
It was the Milwaukee Riot which resulted from the death of Sylville Smith during the midst of BLM tensions, which if not caused directly by BLM activists, was at least incited by BLM members who give justification to rioting when someone with dark skin gets shot by police regardless of context.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367344]
It was the Milwaukee Riot which resulted from the death of Sylville Smith during the midst of BLM tensions, which if not caused directly by BLM activists, was at least incited by BLM members who give justification to rioting when someone with dark skin gets shot by police regardless of context.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but being "in the midst of BLM tensions" is nebulous at best and isn't good enough.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51367344]The guy who doesn't agree with groups of people hunting other people down based on the color of their skin is racist, cool beans.[/QUOTE]
I take issue with him calling them "crack babies with fetal alcohol syndrome". Just because he's commenting on the awful actions of other people does not excuse his own words.
I stopped watching it like half way through tbh so I didn't catch the shit he said near the end.
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