I wish Putin's general coolness weren't constantly being hampered by Medvedev's stupefying level of lameness.
Even if they agreed not to build it. What's to stop them from doing it secretly anyway.
I'm all for the shield. This isn't a gentlemans game, this is about protecting your nation, if they don't give a damn about there own shielding capability, fuck em.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;19286098]Hey I'm not a commie, all I'm saying is that countries like the UK are constantly being the USA's little bitch, taking it up the ass and constantly getting fucked over.[/QUOTE]
Sure, they let America do the dirty work for them while they keep themselves nice and safe.
Then comes Bush Jr. to force everyone to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan and now all the European countries knows the shit we deal with personally.
Shootin' Putin. Nice nickname for him.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;19291266]What are they going to do about it?
Nuke us?[/QUOTE]
I'm more worried about Iran than Russia or North Korea
[QUOTE=Fippe;19279914]What if Russia doesn't want to waste money on a nuclear shield when they need the money to get their economics up and running. Then they have to resort to "fuck you don't make the shield fagts".[/QUOTE]
What if politics ran the way of internet speak.
"hey guys we're building a shield from nooks, k?"
"no fuck you. we want shield"
"then build your own fuckwit"
"we dont have money though"
"haha faggots"
[QUOTE=halo2142;19290732]Never.. Under estimate an enemy.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.....for the protip.
Oh sure, the US really wants to nuke Russia. [/sarcasm]
What a good ally, doesn't even trust you enough to build up defenses and thinks you're trying to start a nuclear apocalypse.
Use proton torpedoes to hit the exhaust vent, Putin.
Russia are busy trying to fix their other stuff first, they have every right to be worried about one of the most powerful states preparing a large-scale defence system.
Ugh, I thought Putin started attacking the US missile defenses or some shit.
I wouldn't fuck with Putin if I was the USA.
He's a bad-ass motherfucker.
[QUOTE=bigdoggie;19299987]Ugh, I thought Putin started attacking the US missile defenses or some shit.[/QUOTE]
Do you think this thread would exist if that had actually happened.
Anyone going "WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND A NATION FUCK RUSSIA" is dumb, and does not understand the ramifications of what the US is actually doing.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;19284791]NK has a fairly good army, but it's their navy and air force that are greatly lacking, and all they have for nuclear weapons are a few short-range, glitchy missiles that could easily be shot down by enemy air forces before they could pose a threat to anyone. To most of NATO, especially China, UK, and US, NK is nothing but a pushover, though NK could easily be a dire threat to South Korea.[/QUOTE]
Their military is shit. The only reason we didn't wipe them out in a day in the Korean War is because they had China helping them for a while. Read up on their military, it's one of the worst in the world.
Can anyone say, 'SEKRIT NUCLOOR SHIELD THINGAY!'?
[QUOTE=Sickle;19300559]Can anyone say, 'SEKRIT NUCLOOR SHIELD THINGAY!'?[/QUOTE]
No because we'd feel like idiots if we said that.
[QUOTE=markg06;19300684]No because we'd feel like idiots if we said that.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
putin is just being a dick
god forbid the original democratic nation protects itself from holocaust
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;19286098]Hey I'm not a commie, all I'm saying is that countries like the UK are constantly being the USA's little bitch, taking it up the ass and constantly getting fucked over.[/QUOTE]
*cough*And liking it*cough*...
With no *cough* lube.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;19300075]Do you think this thread would exist if that had actually happened.
Anyone going "WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND A NATION FUCK RUSSIA" is dumb, and does not understand the ramifications of what the US is actually doing.[/QUOTE]
They are creating a way that gives them immunity from certain attacks while allowing them to launch them. They are creating a way to "win". If Russia has a problem with losing, make one yourself. This isn't a game, give any nation on Earth a button that gives them total control over the world should they press it, every single one would press it. It's always been about being the dominate nation. Russia knows this, apparently because they can't build a shield of there own they are saying "hey that's not fair, your in the lead now".
I don't see the point in this debate, the US is obviously doing this as a way to gain the edge. Whether they really intend to do anything with it remains to be seen. Regardless, this is about being the dominate nation, if no one else is going to bother, they can't say shit. As I said before, this isn't about being a gentleman, this is about wining at it's very core.
How is this so hard to understand? You want your nation to compete, then fucking [b]compete[/b].
[QUOTE=Axznma;19301646]They are creating a way that gives them immunity from certain attacks while allowing them to launch them. They are creating a way to "win". If Russia has a problem with losing, make one yourself. This isn't a game, give any nation on Earth a button that gives them total control over the world should they press it, every single one would press it. It's always been about being the dominate nation. Russia knows this, apparently because they can't build a shield of there own they are saying "hey that's not fair, your in the lead now".
I don't see the point in this debate, the US is obviously doing this as a way to gain the edge. Whether they really intend to do anything with it remains to be seen. Regardless, this is about being the dominate nation, if no one else is going to bother, they can't say shit. As I said before, this isn't about being a gentleman, this is about wining at it's very core.
How is this so hard to understand? You want your nation to compete, then fucking [b]compete[/b].[/QUOTE]
You realise the attitude you are taking is the reason why humanity still indulges in fucking stupid wars and xenophobia.
the idea is not to fucking dull it down into a competition, the idea is to reduce the threat of nuclear holocaust.
You don't fucking compete, and the sooner the idea of realism dies, the better.
Giving up stability to "be da best" is fucking idiotic.
[QUOTE=nono345;19300805]putin is just being a dick
god forbid the original democratic nation protects itself from holocaust[/QUOTE]
Huh? He's not targeting Greece.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;19302427]You realise the attitude you are taking is the reason why humanity still indulges in fucking stupid wars and xenophobia.
the idea is not to fucking dull it down into a competition, the idea is to reduce the threat of nuclear holocaust.
You don't fucking compete, and the sooner the idea of realism dies, the better.
Giving up stability to "be da best" is fucking idiotic.[/QUOTE]
You assumed I agree with this method. I'm merely pointing out that is how the current world is working. I never said it was working well, or that it should, or shouldn't. That's simply how the world works, every nation wants to be the best. They will do what they have to-to do this. Human nature is the only thing to blame here.
[QUOTE=Luxo;19279255]"He's totally right! How dare we build defenses and make our selfs feel safe!" :downs:
He seriously need to shut up and quit whining.[/QUOTE]
No you twat, it's like me beating the shit out of you, and then when you want to retaliate, you can't because someone isn't letting you.
To be fair, any other nation would have the same problem with this idea aswell. I'm British and I still think it's abit far reached that America can do whatever it likes.
I'm getting the fuck out of this country as soon as I'm of age. Too many dumb fucking ignorant easterners and over patriotic redneck religious Americans whining about each other.
Why can't both Russia and the US build missile shields? It is in a way a hostile act(building a shield means you either expect war or expect them to attack you, which is insulting to the other country), but why can't they both just do it?
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[QUOTE=slamex;19310726]
To be far, any other nation would have the same problem with this idea aswell. I'm British and I still think it's abit far reached that America can do whatever it likes.[/QUOTE]
I think defending ourselves is allowable. However, I understand the bit about America just pushing it's way through to do whatever the fuck they want.
The sad thing is that the shield could potentially save millions of lives in the event of a nuclear/conventional missile attack but the world governments have to squabble about it like they are fighting over a toy on a playground.
Fuck that shit, I'm packing my bags and moving to Canada.
Does Putin really think we're going to start lobbing nukes around once we complete the shield?
[QUOTE=halo2142;19290732]Never.. Under estimate an enemy.[/QUOTE]
Oh i'm not, that was being nice about them.
[QUOTE=RichardNixon;19320451]Does Putin really think we're going to start lobbing nukes around once we complete the shield?[/QUOTE]
The simple fact that everyone* has nukes is the only thing that has prevented nuclear war in the past. Thanks to MAD, no one dares to use them. If someone builds a shield, MAD does not apply to him and theoretically lets him do whatever he wants with his nukes without fear of retaliation.
It doesn't really matter what Putin thinks. Imagine what the US government would say if Russia, Iran, India or Norh Korea were the ones building the shield.
[QUOTE=Ohforf;19323113]Russia needs to sent undercover stealth speznaz, and destroy the missile defence.
Then we all can nuke the living joy out of eachother, and live happily 'till the end of days.[/QUOTE]
Hooray for radiation!
[QUOTE=Axznma;19301646]They are creating a way that gives them immunity from certain attacks while allowing them to launch them. They are creating a way to "win". If Russia has a problem with losing, make one yourself. This isn't a game, give any nation on Earth a button that gives them total control over the world should they press it, every single one would press it. It's always been about being the dominate nation. Russia knows this, apparently because they can't build a shield of there own they are saying "hey that's not fair, your in the lead now".
I don't see the point in this debate, the US is obviously doing this as a way to gain the edge. Whether they really intend to do anything with it remains to be seen. Regardless, this is about being the dominate nation, if no one else is going to bother, they can't say shit. As I said before, this isn't about being a gentleman, this is about wining at it's very core.
How is this so hard to understand? You want your nation to compete, then fucking [b]compete[/b].[/QUOTE]
Pointless competitiveness is stupid and damaging.
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