• President Obama: School year must be extended by month for US students to compete...
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[QUOTE=FreakyMe;25095681]Not everyone will. You may, and your friends may, but there will be plenty of students who grasp at the opportunity to get out of the home and further their education. I'm sorry you need 3 months of vacation as a break from learning to get your retard on.[/QUOTE] do exactly as i say, when i say, or you are A. retarded B. a jackass yes brilliant plan doctor absolutely brilliant i think that kids will respond wonderfully
I like all the 14-16 year olds claiming this is a bad idea. Longer year = more time to not only cover material but also review it. [url]http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2009/04/27/expand-school-hours-and-you-will-expand-learning.html[/url]
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;25098533]Mwahaha I laugh at all you poor suckers in public school anyway. I had almost three weeks more of summer vacation in private schooling. Currently holding a 4.0 in college I might add.[/QUOTE] i was in private schooling for a while a few years back and it was glorious ill probably go back for a while maybe for my last 2 years of school [editline]12:07AM[/editline] [QUOTE=FreakyMe;25095681]Not everyone will. You may, and your friends may, but there will be plenty of students who grasp at the opportunity to get out of the home and further their education. I'm sorry you need 3 months of vacation as a break from learning to get your retard on.[/QUOTE] so the minority of students that want more school is more important that the majority makes sense
The real problem is the quality of teachers. Most schools don't really check how teachers are doing after they are hired other than standardized tests, and once they've taught for 30 years or something, they get tenure and can do whatever the fuck they want.
[QUOTE=s0beit;25098318]It is a well known fact that private schooling is more expensive [b]because[/b] of public education, nice try though. EDIT: p.s. If you aren't financially ready to have kids then don't fucking have them.[/QUOTE] The first fact I never actually knew. Second, it doesn't always work perfectly. One day the money is good, the next it's gone. My dad left when I was 7 or 8 and it fucked us up hard in terms of the cash flow. We had to sell our house and move. We still go through tight spots today. Do you think my family was prepared when they had me? Yes, they were. The fact you are so ignorant of the fact things change everyday is very bad.
[QUOTE=MrOwn1;25098576] so the minority of students that want more school is more important that the majority makes sense[/QUOTE] How do you know the majority is thinking for their best interests?
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;25098551]I like all the 14-16 year olds claiming this is a bad idea. Longer year = more time to not only cover material but also review it. [url]http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2009/04/27/expand-school-hours-and-you-will-expand-learning.html[/url][/QUOTE] Hmm because 4 weeks of extra school really helps when there is a new topic every week.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;25095367]how about we cut $50 billion dollars from the ridiculous military budget, and give each state a billion dollars to use for public education.[/QUOTE] What happens when Russia invades?
[QUOTE=MrOwn1;25098576] so the minority of students that want more school is more important that the majority makes sense[/QUOTE] You're losing your shine.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25098651]Hmm because 4 weeks of extra school really helps when there is a new topic every week.[/QUOTE] That's BS, I was in accelerated AP courses when I was in high school and it took us at the very least two weeks to cover, review, and test on a topic. I can't count how many times I need one more class to feel ready for a test, something a month of extra school would've helped with.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25097708]Really? I never had to take them in elementary school... I don't think. I barely remember but I'm fairly sure it was mostly about participation. Our school system may not be universally fine. Obviously some public schools are in a better position than others but I really think student apathy is the biggest issue.[/QUOTE] Apathy is the biggest issue in any situation involving people.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;25098645]How do you know the majority is thinking for their best interests?[/QUOTE] they aren't it's just that if the majority of students are really unmotivated and pissed off at the school system for adding an extra month, that's a bad thing it might be something to consider later but it's not a good first step at this moment
Instead of making school longer, make it better.
[QUOTE=Ridge;25095107]What the schools need is more up to date materials and teachers with the knowledge about their subjects. I graduated high school in 2004, and we had a map of the USSR in our class room...WTF?[/QUOTE] I'm taking Spanish and my Spanish book is from 1998 :confused:
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25098665]You're losing your shine.[/QUOTE] i know i need to step up my game too bad that one guy stopped posting here
[QUOTE=darnok;25098721]Instead of making school longer, make it better.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the post I made in the OP. May I take your hat and coat?
Honestly school could last all year and it doesn't fix bad teaching.
[QUOTE=MrOwn1;25098708]they aren't it's just that if the majority of students are really unmotivated and pissed off at the school system for adding an extra month, that's a bad thing it might be something to consider later but it's not a good first step at this moment[/QUOTE] When is it a good step? There will never be a time where kids will be willing to accept an extra month of school.
School needs to be sped up and compacted. At my secondary school in the UK, we could have quite easily done our GCSEs in Year 10, considering that most of Year 8 is spent doing stuff that isn't much harder than Year 7. In fact, I was disappointed in Year 7 when I was told we wouldn't get to do trigonometry until Year 9 (though admittedly, I had read through, multiple times, nearly every book in the Murderous Maths series).
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;25098551]I like all the 14-16 year olds claiming this is a bad idea. Longer year = more time to not only cover material but also review it. [url]http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2009/04/27/expand-school-hours-and-you-will-expand-learning.html[/url][/QUOTE] I like all the dismissive generalizations about people who oppose this.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;25098761]When is it a good step? There will never be a time where kids will be willing to accept an extra month of school.[/QUOTE] when school is finally not so shit to the point where kids hate it in fact it would probably be a good idea to not add the extra month at all no wait [B][I][U]IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO NOT ADD THE MONTH AT ALL[/U][/I][/B] [editline]12:16AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25098788]I like all the dismissive generalizations about people who oppose this.[/QUOTE] we're all either 13 or retarded no matter what
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So that means your Summer Holidays are typically 8 weeks long? In the UK, ours are generally 6 weeks. Maybe you should compromise and add 2 weeks, one at the start, one at the end. Nobody would notice!
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;25098761]When is it a good step? There will never be a time where kids will be willing to accept an extra month of school.[/QUOTE] Kids don't have a say bro
Is any of this discussion based on any actual data? Or are you just all saying "I think X is good because in my experience things are x"?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25098851]Yet you aren't bringing anything up to back up your side? :colbert:[/QUOTE] Is this a serious post
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25098788]I like all the dismissive generalizations about people who oppose this.[/QUOTE] Thank you. We don't need to extend the educational time period, we need to get rid of all the crap we do for the "self-esteem" of the students. No joke here, I was in Precalculus class in my HIGH SCHOOL, and some kid added 1 + 4 = 10 and the teacher literally said, "That's okay, why don't you try again?" instead of calling on 10 other people groaning and waving their hands in the air. Second try he got 6. WITH A CALCULATOR. Third try he got 1. This went on for several minutes until the teacher finally got the balls to say the kid was wrong and show him how to fucking add. We're dumb because of the educational system and our suck-ass work ethic (mostly the latter). /rant
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25098891]Is any of this discussion based on any actual data? Or are you just all saying "I think X is good because in my experience things are x"?[/QUOTE] Woah, woah, woah. My input was based on science and stuff...
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25098622]The first fact I never actually knew. Second, it doesn't always work perfectly. One day the money is good, the next it's gone. My dad left when I was 7 or 8 and it fucked us up hard in terms of the cash flow. We had to sell our house and move. We still go through tight spots today. Do you think my family was prepared when they had me? Yes, they were. The fact you are so ignorant of the fact things change everyday is very bad.[/QUOTE] You either [i]weren't[/i] ready or you're doing it wrong, last time i checked there was compensation for people like your mother in those situations, and if the state is failing in that respect (obtaining child support) i can't very well assume they will do much better in public education. Also yes, "public options" rip consumers away from the private market and entice them with "free" alternatives, of course the price of private schooling goes up when there is less people willing to buy that product.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25098788]I like all the dismissive generalizations about people who oppose this.[/QUOTE] It's an accurate generalization, as oxymoronic as that sounds.
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