President Obama: School year must be extended by month for US students to compete...
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[QUOTE=xxncxx;25095051]Fuck NO.[/QUOTE]
You're going to be in a world of hate when you realize when you get out of school, the best vacation you'll get is a week off.
You might as well get an education instead of being a princess.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;25095077]yeah but i dont like 4 week summers[/QUOTE]
oh your summer vacationis only 2 months?
HAHAH we have 3 months HAHAHA
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Realy shows dosentit :geno:
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;25109946]oh your summer vacationis only 2 months?
HAHAH we have 3 months HAHAHA
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Realy shows[B] dosentit[/B] :geno:[/QUOTE]
wat
The issue is the teachers not the length of time taught. An extra month with a shitty teacher is time absolutely wasted, and a lot of government money wasted.
Tenure for teachers is the main problem, teachers work at a school for a certain amount of time, and after that time they're literally immune to being fired or reprimanded. Unless they break a law or the school's rules they cannot be fired, which means they could have a failing rate of 98% and still work the next year.
I've had so many teachers that were "Veterans" who were lazy, unhelpful, and overall probably taught me less than I learned in third grade, but the school can't do anything because they have tenure.
After Katrina New Orleans lost all of it's public schools. In their place were private schools, and the education rate skyrocketed.
So overall it's a public schooling issue not a we need another month issue.
adpot finnish school system
pay teachers more
free education as good as payed education
idiots who cant study would be put on special programme so they could finish school.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;25104765]How? His idea will allow students
A) Less time to forget/lose touch with things learned over the summer. This means less review will be needed the next year.
[b]stupid bullshit. If the things they learn have any relevance to their lives they will be applying it. If it doesn't then it'll get out of practice since it's irrelevant to their fucking lives. It's like natural selection mental edition. The useless knowledge goes away and the useful knowledge stays.[/b]
B) More time for each topic to be taught and reinforced.
[b]Oh please how much reinforcement do you need, if a student isn't catching on to a certain course then all of the reinforcement in the world isn't going to help. And being taught doesn't take an extra month.[/b]
C) More time for teacher/student interaction.
[b]Waste of time. I haven't wasted a second with my instructors because anybody who needs to go in to see the instructor clearly isn't paying attention in class. [/b]
I see no problem with adding a month and it is absolutely illogical to think otherwise. I have yet to see a real legitimate issue with his plan.[/QUOTE]
Your logic is skewed. I don't really give a shit though since I'll be mostly done with school by the time this could get into place.
[QUOTE=Sprocket Shit;25110815]Your logic is skewed. I don't really give a shit though since I'll be mostly done with school by the time this could get into place.[/QUOTE]
So basicly you're saying that if you can't do it in class than you suck and deserve to fail and their is no point in trying to get help or do extra work?
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;25104377]Actually, you can. Maybe not for this generation of students, but the next one will have no complaints over the change. The new wave will have better work ethic by comparison and remember more, which means they will require less review time at the start of the next year.[/QUOTE]
Maybe. I wouldn't count on it though.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;25109664]Americans get it easy compared to us and they still complain.[/QUOTE]
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Not in the real world, we don't.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;25104765]How? His idea will allow students
A) Less time to forget/lose touch with things learned over the summer. This means less review will be needed the next year.
B) More time for each topic to be taught and reinforced.
C) More time for teacher/student interaction.
I see no problem with adding a month and it is absolutely [B]1. illogical to think otherwise.[/B] [B]2. I have yet to see a real legitimate issue with his plan.[/B][/QUOTE]
1. That's opinion.
2. That's untrue.
There's more a lot more wrong with the school system than the length of the year
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;25100543]Now this is one of the dumbest things I have heard in this thread yet. I suppose in this perfect world no one would have anything better than a vocational education? There is a reason we do not specialize until college and nothing you learn in highschool is useless.[/QUOTE]
vocational high schools?
i go to one and it's a real nice place.
I really think they should make better use of the time that is already in the school year. I can't help but feel like half of my core classes are a waste of time. What use do I get out of memorizing the periodic table of the elements if I plan to work in computers? Odds are I forget it the second finals are over, probably before. Perhaps most classes should be electives, but relate better to life outside of school. I've never taken a class that teaches basic stuff such as how to balance finances, but I can sign up for a class that is basically an hour and a half of music each day. We need better interaction between students and teachers as well. A counselor should help the student pick a set of courses that a relevant to what they want to do with their life, not just some random shit classes mixed in with English, Math, Science, and History.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;25112623]vocational high schools?
i go to one and it's a real nice place.[/QUOTE]
As do I.
summer break should be 1 month if winter break can also be 1 month. that would be nice
I am in high school right now, and personally, I do not give a shit. It's an extra month, it's not like I already go through 9 months, another 1 month won't kill me.
God, anyone who actually makes a fuss about this is a fucking pussy.
[QUOTE=Killy_Mcgee;25112888]I am in high school right now, and personally, I do not give a shit. It's an extra month, it's not like I already go through 9 months, another 1 month won't kill me.
God, anyone who actually makes a fuss about this is a fucking pussy.[/QUOTE]
Or people like you just don't understand.
Well in Britain people thought it was ridiculous for David Cameron to reduce our holidays by one week.
I don't see what's wrong it really.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;25113077]Well in Britain people thought it was ridiculous for David Cameron to reduce our holidays by one week.
I don't see what's wrong it really.[/QUOTE]
Reducing holidays and adding another month of school are two different things, in a certain sense. The holiday rage was probably just because of the change, whereas this "Add a month" is just piling shit onto shit.
isn't reducing holidays and adding more schooldays essentially the same thing.
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[QUOTE=evilking1;25113298]isn't reducing holidays and adding more schooldays essentially the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but the point is that the US education system is a steaming pile of crap. Adding more days of crap won't do us any good.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;25096116]American children are stupid, spoiled, incompetent brats compared to most of the developed world. Quit bitching and deal with it.
The only actual problem is that school funding has been raided to pay for so much bullshit that schools can barely stay open for the year as it is.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
US should rather invest into quality of teaching rather than quantity.
For Serious this time.
They need to remove related arts and make them after school programs or something.
[QUOTE=xxncxx;25095077]yeah but i dont like 4 week summers[/QUOTE]
wtf you get 8 weeks? Jesus christ. I wish i would get that long.
well it was not going to be good over here either, David Cameron was thinking about making students go to saturday lessons. thank god people voted no
Yeah, I agree with the idea to get better materials and such. In my High School econ class, we're using a book that's over 30 years old. My school has shit for funding and has to keep cutting the budget to keep it running. It's horrible.
[QUOTE=evilking1;25113298]isn't reducing holidays and adding more schooldays essentially the same thing.[/QUOTE]
In a literal sense, yes.
I'm not entirely against this if it will help us compete with China.
Add more days, remove excess exams.
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