Student attacked for supporting Trump in mock election - Polidicks

It is rather silly that all the stories i've noticed(i could have missed it? there was one about a robbery that was fake lol) about election related violence on FP since trump's victory have been violence against trump supporters, each gets a reply stating that its "equal on all sides". Thats a statement of fact, and anyone who makes such a statement is probably wrong just because 50% splits are rare let alone being backed up by any stats. Its less stupid to say that we dont know what the real statistics are and that even if we did, we shouldnt make judgements about entire groups of people based on the current situation which may have been different or similar depending on different outcomes of the election. Mainly im just wondering if anyone has any anti-clinton violence stories to post, just go ahead and post it at this point since we're already getting flooded with the opposite. If not then maybe just not post about how its "equal on every side" without even an example to vaguely support you.

Jesus shit I remember when we had mock elections between Bush and Gore and the worst thing that happened was this girl, Sarah, lost her shit because Bush would pollute everything and the dolphins would die. I cut a dolphin out of some gray construction paper and cried because I felt bad for her. The hell happened? How did we go from there to here? [QUOTE=-nesto-;51350766]Can you show me groups of Trump supporters hitting people in the head with rocks? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters egging women? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters assaulting and robbing a driver because of who he voted for? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters protesting in the streets, starting fires, vandalizing cars and store fronts? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters throwing bricks and bottles at police officers that have to control said protests? I'll be waiting[/QUOTE]Reviewing the past day's worth of media the largest and most inflammatory thing I can find is twitter posts were people say they had water thrown in their face and where people (white, of course) made some racist statement or did something like put a notebook on a table and call it Trump's wall. I'm going to have to agree with you here, the [U]violence[/U] has been demonstratively one-sided. [QUOTE=TheDog;51350835]I don't dictate what you post. Don't dictate what I post.[/QUOTE]He has every right to point out what he pointed out, both parts. If you look like you're shoveling shit unevenly expect to get comments.

[video=youtube;AeDfoudQg7I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeDfoudQg7I[/video] [video=youtube;JC5hWfpkp1g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5hWfpkp1g[/video] [video=youtube;R_jq5iUqtBo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jq5iUqtBo[/video] [video=youtube;mCx3ov55tUw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCx3ov55tUw[/video] [video=youtube;D6jSyXDIYoo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6jSyXDIYoo[/video] [media]https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/796545047915331586[/media] Looks pretty even to me man, you are totally right what was I thinking :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=TheDog;51350835]I don't dictate what you post. Don't dictate what I post.[/QUOTE] why so defensive? duck put that in the most polite possible way don't be so quick to go on the attack <- see this? this is not called dictating what you should post, it's called normal discourse between human beings [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=-nesto-;51350993]Looks pretty even to me man, you are totally right what was I thinking :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] do you understand what a comparison is [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] "this girl is prettier than that girl", says nesto *only posts pictures of one of the girls* "SEE? SEE HOW MUCH PRETTIER SHE IS??"

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51350994]"this girl is prettier than that girl", says nesto *only posts pictures of one of the girls* "SEE? SEE HOW MUCH PRETTIER SHE IS??"[/QUOTE] Because there [I]are[/I] no videos of trump supporters attacking clinton supporters. Go to youtube and see for yourself. Copying a post I made in another thread. [QUOTE=sannys;51346817]I have not seen a single video of trump supporters beating clinton supporters. Not a single one. I'm not saying one doesn't exist, but just making an observation. Seriously, go to youtube and search "trump supporters attacked" and "clinton supporters attacked". Both show results only of clinton supporters attacking trump supporters, yet, clinton supporters are the ones posting about how they're "scared" now that trump won.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=sannys;51351039]Because there [I]are[/I] no videos of trump supporters attacking clinton supporters. Go to youtube and see for yourself. Copying a post I made in another thread.[/QUOTE] and had nesto included this bit in his post, it'd have elevated it into a comparison and i wouldn't have had to make that reply. that's all i'm trying to say

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51351058]and had nesto included this bit in his post, it'd have elevated it into a comparison and i wouldn't have had to make that reply. that's all i'm trying to say[/QUOTE] He already said it in another post in this thread. [QUOTE=-nesto-;51350766]Can you show me groups of Trump supporters hitting people in the head with rocks? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters egging women? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters assaulting and robbing a driver because of who he voted for? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters protesting in the streets, starting fires, vandalizing cars and store fronts? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters throwing bricks and bottles at police officers that have to control said protests? I'll be waiting[/QUOTE]

I think it's incredibly important that we all step back and consider [I]why[/I] shit like this is happening. I'm not advocating violence, and I definitely don't agree with people attacking Trump supporters. But dismissal will only lead to more violence. The same reason Trump supporters on this forum didn't like being dismissed as racists and bigots, dismissing these attacks as just the work of violent thugs, or people mad that they lost, is completely ignoring the issues at hand. There are a lot of people who are afraid for their lives right now. LGBT people are afraid of a party that historically opposes their lifestyle having complete control over the government. Black, Latino and Muslim people are afraid of a president who has spent his entire campaign vilifying them and painting them as thugs, terrorists and rapists. Women are afraid of a president who's bragged about sexual harassment, and a party that seeks to restrict their rights. That fear is amplified by a feeling that bigots and racists are now bolstered by this victory. There are reports flowing in of women being assaulted, black and latino people's property being vandalized with hate symbols, gay people being attacked. True, some of these statements may be fictionalized. But it's probably safe to say that a lot of them aren't. You can't exactly fake a video of an elementary school cheering "Build a wall!" while the latino children stay silent. If you honestly think all of it is fake, why? Do you think these people aren't actually afraid and are simply drumming up drama because they lost? Do you really have so little empathy that you can't understand why people have legitimate concerns about their well being? Now, considering all this fear and anger, it's predictable that many people will push back. They'll return hatred with more hatred. Others may see it as an opportunity to act on hate that they've held in the past. It's wrong, and does more to further divide our country, but you absolutely should not trivialize it. We will never come together if we don't try to understand each other's problems. You need to address people's fears, not dismiss them, and this goes for both sides. If a republican doesn't like the idea of a bigger government, I'd want to understand their fears, debate with them, try to come to a conclusion. I would NOT tell them that they're worrying over nothing. I'll leave you with some questions: [I]Why[/I] do you think riots are occurring? [I]Why[/I] do you think people support BLM? [I]Why[/I] do you think people would shout to kill white cops? [I]Why[/I] do you think neo-nazis exist? [I]Why[/I] do you think people support the wall? [I]Why[/I] do you think people dislike big government? Try to avoid words like "racist" "indoctrinated" "whining" "stupid" Think of it from the perspective of these people.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51350766]Can you show me groups of Trump supporters hitting people in the head with rocks? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters egging women? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters assaulting and robbing a driver because of who he voted for? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters protesting in the streets, starting fires, vandalizing cars and store fronts? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters throwing bricks and bottles at police officers that have to control said protests? I'll be waiting[/QUOTE] You really seem eager to completely ignore all the problems conservatives have caused within decades past. Even just talking about the LGBT community, who only now has begun getting recognized, now only for a VP to show up promising to tear it all down. and no, don't dare paint this whole ideal as one sided. There have been COUNTLESS hostile incidents at trump rallies. To be fair, all candidates have their share of idiots, the trouble with trump is that he vouched to support their violent actions. Can you show me a single other candidate who has done that? Let's be more frank, Can you show me a single other candidate who supported stripping rights to vast minority groups? Of course, these actions are completely wrong. I do not support these attacks at all. Heck, I came in here, looked at the OP article, expecting some stupid scuffle amoungst college kids. Instead I see an injured 11 year old child. Outstanding. Something has gone terribly, [B]terribly[/B] wrong for these things to have become common place. and do you know what it is? Its polarization. We cherry pick bad incidents from one side. Hell, the media is famous for doing this at this point to the point of being laughable (I'll be honest, I do see it more from CNN than anyone else as of late, even fox). So just, you know, consider all sides of the story first

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51350766]Can you show me groups of Trump supporters hitting people in the head with rocks? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters egging women? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters assaulting and robbing a driver because of who he voted for? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters protesting in the streets, starting fires, vandalizing cars and store fronts? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters throwing bricks and bottles at police officers that have to control said protests? I'll be waiting[/QUOTE] i'll do it for him [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3uNgYUUAAVnlV.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3qmLPUcAAZ6VF.jpg[/t] 10 more or so in this link [url]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656[/url] don't try to play the victim. Both sides are acting out.

[QUOTE=TheDog;51350835]I don't dictate what you post. Don't dictate what I post.[/QUOTE] He never did

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51350766]Can you show me groups of Trump supporters hitting people in the head with rocks? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters egging women? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters assaulting and robbing a driver because of who he voted for? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters protesting in the streets, starting fires, vandalizing cars and store fronts? Can you show me groups of Trump supporters throwing bricks and bottles at police officers that have to control said protests? I'll be waiting[/QUOTE] Trump supporters aren't being violent because they feel no need to be. They have nothing they need to protest, no message they want to push, nothing to be afraid or angry about, because they've won. As I said in my post, [I]why[/I] do you think people are becoming violent?

[QUOTE=sannys;51351039]Because there [I]are[/I] no videos of trump supporters attacking clinton supporters. Go to youtube and see for yourself. Copying a post I made in another thread.[/QUOTE] There's [B]1[/B] that got MSM attention(mind you all that I posted, minus the new car jacking one, went mainstream) [video=youtube;2LX4Q643aEU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LX4Q643aEU[/video] But to say, eh yea well the violence is pretty even on both sides is hilariously idiotic.

[QUOTE=sannys;51351062]He already said it in another post in this thread.[/QUOTE] cool but the post i was quoting still seems to draw the conclusion that one side is worse from footage of one side alone edit: might sound like i'm trying to get the last word here but this argument is pointless i quoted that one post because that one post made for a shitty argument

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51351086]There's [B]1[/B] that got MSM attention(mind you all that I posted, minus the new car jacking one, went mainstream) [video=youtube;2LX4Q643aEU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LX4Q643aEU[/video] But to say, eh yea well the violence is pretty even on both sides is hilariously idiotic.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kyle902;51351070]i'll do it for him [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3uNgYUUAAVnlV.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3qmLPUcAAZ6VF.jpg[/t] 10 more or so in this link [URL]https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656[/URL] don't try to play the victim. Both sides are acting out.[/QUOTE] i can post videos and images too. But at the end of the day all this drivel you're spouting is meaningless without actual statistics to prove what you say. Not that you care. Feels over reals, right? [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] Hell theres another thread on FP full of this shit lol [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1541219[/url]

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351108]i can post videos and images too. But at the end of the day all this drivel you're spouting is meaningless without actual statistics to prove what you say. Not that you care. Feels over reals, right? [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] Hell theres another thread on FP full of this shit lol [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1541219[/url][/QUOTE] But.. The content that you're quoting isn't even violence? It's people shouting racial obscenities and a robbery that involved zero injuries. Horrible events, but not violence like nesto is asking about.

[QUOTE=srobins;51351138]But.. The content that you're quoting isn't even violence? It's people shouting racial obscenities and a robbery that involved zero injuries. Horrible events, but not violence like nesto is asking about.[/QUOTE] okay so which one of these is nonviolent [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3uNgYUUAAVnlV.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3NePQXcAEa2UM.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3lXmIXAAAgqUj.jpg[/t] oh wait you arbitrarily snipped out half of my post because it wouldn't fit your argument. Glad to see that you're having a discussion in good faith. that was sarcasm by the way. [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] again I must point out that these twitter snippets and videos are fun and all, but they're all essentially meaningless unless we get actual statistics on the matter.

How about we all just stop posting shit until we know it's proven? Hell, I've made the mistake in another thread.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351156]Glad to see that you're having a discussion in good faith.[/QUOTE] That's ironic. Your trying to pass off unsubstantiated tweets and facebook posts as hard evidence.

here i can do more too [URL="http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/11/10/gay-man-brutally-attacked-trump-supporters-election-night"]Gay Man attacked by Trump supporters[/URL] [URL="http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/violence-committed-against-women-by-trump-supporters.html"]Violence committed against women by Trump supporters[/URL] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/21/white-trump-protester-sucker-punched-by-black-trump-supporter-in-brutal-video-of-tucson-rally/"]Trump supporter sucker punches protester[/URL] [URL="http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-allegedly-tries-to-run-over-latino-dem-candidate-whos-also-a-retired-marine/"]Trump supporters attempt to run over a dude and his mother[/URL] [URL="http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/14/men-arrested-plot-car-bomb-mosque-trump-supporter.html"]trump supporters arrested for plotting to fucking bomb Somali immigrants [/URL] [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/man-punched-and-choked-protesters-at-north-carolina-trump-rally-2016-9"] trump supporter punches protester, slaps another[/URL] [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/08/3785917/hospital-assault-trump/"]trump supporter volunteering at a hospital physically assaults black family and tells them to get out[/URL] I have dozens more if you want them. [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=-nesto-;51351197]That's ironic. Your trying to pass off unsubstantiated tweets and facebook posts as hard evidence.[/QUOTE] kinda like how you're passing off youtube videos and twitter videos as evidence. Regardless heres more then a few sources that show trump supporters acting violently. [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] like im not even arguing that you're wrong lol. I'm pointint out that your argument doesn't prove your stance :v:

[B]Guys, we shouldn't be asking "Which side is being more violent and hateful?" We should be asking "Why is violence and hate breaking out in the first place?"[/B]

[QUOTE=The Vman;51351263][B]Guys, we shouldn't be asking "Which side is being more violent and hateful?" We should be asking "Why is violence and hate breaking out in the first place?"[/B][/QUOTE] because this was a hot election and both sides spent most of it shitting on each other constantly. Don't forget the rising racial tensions

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351070]i'll do it for him [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3uNgYUUAAVnlV.jpg[/t] [/url] don't try to play the victim. Both sides are acting out.[/QUOTE] That one turned out to be fabricated. [url]https://apnews.com/258032975ef84e2f808726808072684f[/url]

[QUOTE=Tudd;51351271]That one turned out to be fabricated.[/QUOTE] source?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351156]okay so which one of these is nonviolent [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3uNgYUUAAVnlV.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3NePQXcAEa2UM.jpg[/t] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3lXmIXAAAgqUj.jpg[/t] oh wait you arbitrarily snipped out half of my post because it wouldn't fit your argument. Glad to see that you're having a discussion in good faith. that was sarcasm by the way. [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] again I must point out that these twitter snippets and videos are fun and all, but they're all essentially meaningless unless we get actual statistics on the matter.[/QUOTE] All of them except for the bottom one? I didn't snip anything either..

[QUOTE=Clovis;51351278]You're acting like there has never been an election like this before[/QUOTE] point to where I said or implied that.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351280]source?[/QUOTE] [url]https://apnews.com/258032975ef84e2f808726808072684f[/url] Literally front page here on SH.

[QUOTE=srobins;51351282]All of them except for the bottom one? I didn't snip anything either..[/QUOTE] ah it was a simple mistake, you might not have seen that I quoted my post from earlier in the thread as part of my argument. Sorry about that

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51351269]because this was a hot election and both sides spent most of it shitting on each other constantly. Don't forget the rising racial tensions[/QUOTE] That's barely scratching the surface of why. You aren't addressing any issues, just making a blanket statement. For instance, why were there racial tensions?

[QUOTE=Tudd;51351286][url]https://apnews.com/258032975ef84e2f808726808072684f[/url] Literally front page here on SH.[/QUOTE] Pardon me for not seeing that. I'll concede that one as a fabrication. Thanks for pointing that out