Clinton gives her take on Sanders supporters in leaked fundraising recording - Polidicks

[QUOTE=davethestoner;51137683]Again, basement dweller is clearly an insult and you're just glossing over it.[/QUOTE] You're glossing over the fact that she didn't say "basement-dweller". Do us a favour and read the transcript or, preferably, listen to the audio clip before posting.

[QUOTE=davethestoner;51137683]Again, basement dweller is clearly an insult and you're just glossing over it.[/QUOTE] Are you actually upset a candidate described a group of the population in a negative way? Then why's it okay for Donald to talk about half of the US as the way he does

[QUOTE=davethestoner;51137683]Again, basement dweller is clearly an insult and you're just glossing over it.[/QUOTE] I've been very critical of Hillary for being overly rehearsed and insincere, but if people are willing to grill her for words she didn't actually even fucking use, then I guess I can't blame her. I mean for fuck's sake.

[QUOTE=Conscript;51137569]Hillary's opponents manifest themselves prominently on the net as 'bernie bros' and 'alt right trolls', which she identifies as young men who have too much time and live in the unused section of their parents' house. She doesn't just describe them with the words struggle or poverty because this would imply whites aren't privileged or can be anything below middle class, so instead she makes 'children of the great recession' and all of her progressive detractors sound like middle class white college graduates who work in an unskilled field unrelated to their major with little opportunity for advancement. It's an important distinction, since she can set up to guilt trip bernie supporters into voting for her, else it's white privilege to be progressive this election.[/QUOTE] For the love of God, Conscript, just stop forever. Please.

For those interested, #basementdwellers is at 216k Tweets right now. For comparison, #basketofdeplorables hit around 850k before twitter removed it from the trending topics list.

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51138118]For those interested, #basementdwellers is at 216k Tweets right now. For comparison, #basketofdeplorables hit around 850k before twitter removed it from the trending topics list.[/QUOTE] /pol/ got to work quick, huh?

[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;51137865]For the love of God, Conscript, just stop forever. Please.[/QUOTE] #neverhillary white privilege: [url]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/democratic-vote-hillary-clinton-election-2016-bernie-sanders[/url] [url]http://qz.com/644985/privilege-is-what-allows-sanders-supporters-to-say-theyll-never-vote-for-clinton/[/url] [url]http://www.inquisitr.com/3393066/white-privilege-bernie-or-bust-minority-lives-risk/[/url] Sanders progressivism being a strategy of the middle class or white men: [url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/angry-white-males-propel-donald-trumpand-bernie-sanders-1457495579[/url] [url]http://www.salon.com/2016/03/09/why_bernies_on_shaky_ground_white_men_are_leading_him_to_victory_as_he_remains_a_tough_sell_with_other_voters/[/url] [url]https://www.thenation.com/article/whats-wrong-with-bernie-sanderss-strategy/[/url] [url]http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/5/19/11649054/bernie-sanders-working-class-base[/url] I actually worked for the campaign and know exactly what edge is being used by Clinton liberals against Bernie progressives, and it's sex, race, and class as defined by such. To describe someone as a basement dweller whose college hopes were dashed by the great recession is quite different from calling them a working class person falling on hard times, and I was answering a question on Clinton's wording. It's for a reason, to quote the vox article: [Quote]But under this criteria, the white working class also includes a large group of young people and enrolled students who will soon join the middle or upper class and aren't necessarily facing any real material deprivation. (A junior at Harvard with a job lined up on Wall Street may have an income of $0 right now, but she's hardly destitute.) If this is your definition of white working class — essentially, "all white people not currently making a lot of money" — Sanders really does appear to be winning it. And that's how we've gotten a ton of media coverage about his "white working-class" base, which tends to be based on exit polls showing white people with low income levels or partial college educations supporting his candidacy. The problem with this definition is that it's notthe one journalists have tended to evoke when writing about Bernie Sanders's "white working-class" base.[/quote] A longstanding anti-bernie line has been that this hardline progressivism is another form of privilege, and this supposedly sympathetic clinton quote does nothing to challenge that. In fact, the word 'working' class is nowhere to be seen, and it's instead implied they're indebted students living in the basement of a stable family home. It's also important to keep in mind this is the background hillary herself came from, including being from another era known for student leftists were exerting political influence, so I'm sure she knows what she's doing.

I just find it so disingenious and dishonest for a Trump supporter to really call Clinton out on this specifically when Trump has basically talked shit about huge swathes of the population in large generalizing statements not to mentioned named and pointed insults at specific individuals. [editline]1st October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;51138133]#neverhillary white privilege: [url]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/democratic-vote-hillary-clinton-election-2016-bernie-sanders[/url] [url]http://qz.com/644985/privilege-is-what-allows-sanders-supporters-to-say-theyll-never-vote-for-clinton/[/url] [url]http://www.inquisitr.com/3393066/white-privilege-bernie-or-bust-minority-lives-risk/[/url] Sanders progressivism being a strategy of the middle class or white men: [url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/angry-white-males-propel-donald-trumpand-bernie-sanders-1457495579[/url] [url]http://www.salon.com/2016/03/09/why_bernies_on_shaky_ground_white_men_are_leading_him_to_victory_as_he_remains_a_tough_sell_with_other_voters/[/url] [url]https://www.thenation.com/article/whats-wrong-with-bernie-sanderss-strategy/[/url] [url]http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/5/19/11649054/bernie-sanders-working-class-base[/url] I actually worked for the campaign and know exactly what edge is being used by Clinton liberals against Bernie progressives, and it's sex, race, and class as defined by such. To describe someone as a basement dweller whose college hopes were dashed by the great recession is quite different from calling them a working class person falling on hard times, and I was answering a question on Clinton's wording. It's for a reason, to quote the vox article: A longstanding anti-bernie line has been that this hardline progressivism is another form of privilege, and this supposedly sympathetic clinton quote does nothing to challenge that. In fact, the word 'working' class is nowhere to be seen, and it's instead implied they're indebted students living in the basement of a stable family home. It's also important to keep in mind this is the background hillary herself came from, including being from another era known for student leftists were exerting political influence, so I'm sure she knows what she's doing.[/QUOTE] Trump clearly isn't trying to manipulate anyone so I can see why you give him such a hard pass oh wait

This is a less of a "47 percent" and more of a "you didn't build that"

the full full quotes: [quote] "There is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates. And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel." "Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future. If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. I think we all should be really understanding of that."[/quote]

[media]https://twitter.com/MikePenceVP/status/782310568791334913[/media] Oh god, reading any political twitter right now is a bantz filled adventure.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51138825][media]https://twitter.com/MikePenceVP/status/782310568791334913[/media] Oh god, reading any political twitter right now is a bantz filled adventure.[/QUOTE] the selective vision is amazing man you'll go "sweet bantz" to this kinda shit but flat out horse blinders fingers in your ears when it comes to Trump being as offensive to the large swathes of the populations he is that's all this is incredibly selective bias and vision and perspective and you honestly shouldn't be proud of that

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51138825] Oh god, reading any political twitter right now is a bantz filled adventure.[/QUOTE] This is coming from a guy that literally let several AIDS epidemics get completely out of hand over his 'moral' fee fees. This is also coming from a guy that tried to start a state sponsored media outlet because people were making fun of him in the paper This is also coming from a guy that took a shitload of cash from tobacco lobbyists to then campaign against tobacco regulation and went as far as to try to undermine the scientific body of evidence that suggests smoking is a cancer risk As a Hoosier, fuck Mike Pence. EDIT: fucking fake Pence handle, but still, fuck Pence.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51138884]This is coming from a guy that literally let several AIDS epidemics get completely out of hand over his 'moral' fee fees. This is also coming from a guy that tried to start a state sponsored media outlet because people were making fun of him in the paper This is also coming from a guy that took a shitload of cash from tobacco lobbyists to then campaign against tobacco regulation and went as far as to try to undermine the scientific body of evidence that suggests smoking is a cancer risk As a Hoosier, fuck Mike Pence. EDIT: fucking fake Pence handle, but still, fuck Pence.[/QUOTE] wouldn't be surprised if he was the one that did those shitty ass vaping laws a while back too.

Desperate and frustrated people stuck in an inescapable and shitty position and looking for a change is pretty accurate. I mean, it's definitely patronising, but her description isn't far off. This is just so tame- It's absolutely nothing compared to the vitriol Trump has been spewing publicly for his entire campaign.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51135528]If I were a US citizen I would obstain voting. This is unconscionable conduct; sure, it happens almost everywhere, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to normalize it.[/QUOTE] If you don't vote you don't get to complain when a dickhead gets elected president. Doesn't your country have mandatory voting?