• “If abortion is about women’s rights, then what were mine?” - Abortion Survivors Testify on Capitol
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[QUOTE=BFG9000;48668936]However I was thinking about this myself the other day and I wondered what kind of culture we might create where we have abortion orphans who, once grown up, are told that their mother didn't want them... shit makes me kind of sad.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter. I wanted to comment on some other user saying the same thing, "imagine being an adoption baby" like as if it's a bad thing. It's not. Many great and/or successful people have come from nothing or worse, and have been told their parents didn't want them, even by their own parents. Orphans, accidents, sons of whores etc., it doesn't matter. You can still technically do anything you ever want, and nothing's stopping you. (Unless some serious physical disability, ofc.)
[QUOTE=sgman91;48658683]We're talking about the right to life here, the most basic of all rights. If the mother's rights, other than her own right to life, are more important that the fetus's right to life, then you're basically just arguing that the fetus doesn't have a right to life. I'm not sure how you can come to any other conclusion. In what way does the fetus have rights if the mother can take away those rights on a whim?[/QUOTE] It doesn't get the right to life until it is developed enough to actually live on its own. Until that point it is but a parasite, and like any parasite, exists only because its host doesn't terminate it.
If we disallow abortion then perhaps we also need to cut back on government aide, medicine, hospital techniques, etc. The population is swelling and many people don't have the money to properly care for a child. At that point they have an abortion or give birth and leech on the money from the government. The child may end up sicker that normal because of poor living conditions / malnutrition. In history those families would fade from existence, perhaps from a disease that wipes them out, or simply from not having enough food, etc. That was what separated the weak from the strong. It's an archaic way to think and to perform population control, and perhaps it's too late for that since the playing field has been tilted with this whole '99%' nonsense, but when it comes right down to it, a large majority of 'poor' families that I've met/know are as such because they're ignorant and lazy. We don't need those people reproducing and carrying on that lineage. Abortion or let nature start killing off the people who are too stupid to take care of themselves without help. Please.
[QUOTE=Washington Times]Planned Parenthood says it is for women’s rights, said Gianna Jessen, who showed pictures of her burned body when she was born at 7½ after a failed saline abortion at a Planned Parenthood clinic in 1977.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zenreon117;48657824]] Welp. No words. No winners.[/QUOTE] Just so everyone is aware, in case no one else has pointed it out yet, this is an absolute falsehood, and the Washington Times is NOT a reliable news source. [url]http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/12/1420577/-Gianna-Jessen-Planned-Parenthood-Wasn-t-the-Problem[/url] As this article and Gianna's own birth certificate clearly confirm, Gianna was nearly killed by Dr. Edward C. Allred, former owner of Family Planning Associates in California. He used the money he made to buy a racetrack. Saline abortions could only be performed in a facility designated as a "hospital" in California in 1977 according to an LA Times article from 1977 about his practice, and Gianna was born at Avalon Memorial Hospital in Los Angeles -- the same place he performed all his saline abortions. Nor was that stock photo of an aborted 22-week old baby killed during a saline abortion a picture of Gianna at birth. Anyone who saw it and actually believed that child was alive might be interested to know if you spell out the word "gullible", it sounds like "green beans".
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