• BBC Hardtalk - Swedish Democrat Jimmie Åkesson on "Extreme Immigration"
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"[B]Muslims cary a gene that makes them more violent.[/B]" "[B]Afro-Americans are geneticaly programed to rape children.[/B]" "[B]Immigrants are.. are in general a little more criminal than sweds born in Sweden, and that's a fact.[/B]" Seriously, whats with the load of shit this guy is speaking of. Just based on steriotypical bullcrap and myths.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;27672805]Or not, SD is a shitty party in general. I do agree with some of their points but they've got some lesser known stuff they propagate for like "traditional family values" (ie no lesbian/gay couples), more christian influence in school and society, no financing for culture that don't support "Swedish values" at its core, whatever that means. You can find some of this in their manifesto.[/QUOTE] Wait a second... they can't put "christian influence" and "swedish values" in the same sentence... they [I]do[/I] realize Christianity was forced down their pagan throats hundreds of years ago... right? RIGHT?! [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] :sweden:
[QUOTE=demoguy08;27672805]Or not, SD is a shitty party in general. I do agree with some of their points but they've got some lesser known stuff they propagate for like "traditional family values" (ie no lesbian/gay couples), more christian influence in school and society, no financing for culture that don't support "Swedish values" at its core, whatever that means. You can find some of this in their manifesto.[/QUOTE] Sure they got some messed up shit, put they are pretty much the only one that oppose EU, stronger take on criminals and actually care to criticize problem immigration. You shouldn't look down on your sisters decision or it might turn into "Hjälp min son är en Sverigedemokrat! @ Aftonbladet". [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;27673108]Wait a second... they can't put "christian influence" and "swedish values" in the same sentence... they [I]do[/I] realize Christianity was forced down their pagan throats hundreds of years ago... right? RIGHT?! [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] :sweden:[/QUOTE] Imagine if we still believed in Thor, Valhall and Ragnarök. That had been pretty cool.
"stronger take on criminals"? Sweden has one of the absolute lowest crime rates in the entire world, as well as one of the lowest rates of repeat offense.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27673467]Imagine if we still believed in Thor, Valhall and Ragnarök. That had been pretty cool.[/QUOTE] Those were good times, eh? ;D Look, I'm far from being swedish (let alone having a single drop of norse blood running through my veins) but I like to think I know a thing or two about Scandinavia and "Christianity" should NOT be on the list of a political party that revindicates swede nationalism... that clearly shows complete lack of respect of the swedish history. I clearly heard the fierce sound of the Gjallar in my dreams, which means only one thing, my fellow mates: You must wage war against these impostors! With Odin on your side, their heads will roll!
[QUOTE=MILKE;27673083]"[B]Muslims cary a gene that makes them more violent.[/B]" "[B]Afro-Americans are geneticaly programed to rape children.[/B]" "[B]Immigrants are.. are in general a little more criminal than sweds born in Sweden, and that's a fact.[/B]" Seriously, whats with the load of shit this guy is speaking of. Just based on steriotypical bullcrap and myths.[/QUOTE] He didn't say the first one nor the second one. These are idiotic. The third one - yes, he did say that and it makes perfect sense. Also, immigration (legal) is fine as long as the immigrant [b]integrates[/b] into the society. Muslims mostly don't integrate thus causing problems. This isn't only about Muslims. Same thing applies for Gypsies, Turkish people.
why do people always have to be so fucking extreme on everything. it's either this side or the other! Centrism is by far the more superior political stance! pick a bit from the left, pick a bit from the right. create a balance of things and everybody is happy.
meh. i wish we could just give em some decent swedish classes and help those who had trauma during the move or war they got in. things would be better, but now a days we dont even have jobs for everyone who lives here in sweden, cant see how bringing in more is gonna help it, not saying we should stop it, just lower a little.
As a sympathiser I can't say that Mr. Åkesson did that well in this interview, his English was pretty awful. He is however in my opinion a much better debater etc. in Swedish politics/media. Seeing how SD keeps going up in the opinion polls they are obviously gaining trust and it's not surprising me. Since the election in September the average popularity has increased from 5.7% to 6.5%. Another point worth noting is that SD doesn't care about ethnicity when it comes to immigration. It's mainly about culture and values.
Cutting down on immigration sure, I'm all for it, sadly SD has loads of other, less pleasant ideals. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ond kaja;27671271] This indicates that Sweden Democrats is a party that doesn't want problems to be fixed, and it's also the reason why [B]a vote for the Sweden Democrats is a wasted vote[/B].[/QUOTE] Uhm, no vote is a wasted vote in a democratic society.
The Swedish Democrats will explode in popularity next year, or simply disappear if other parties dares take up the same questions. Right now the Swedish Democrats are the black sheeps of the parliament. While other politicians don't want to be branded racist. Swedish schools got a it's own school election where students can vote and the swedish democrats get a lot of votes. These students will be able to vote on the real election next time. Schools went into moral panic mode and had special lessons just about the Swedishdemocrats. Sure younger people don't got the same ethic and morals as most adults put they are also who is affected the most. Shit will hit the fan, i think it's both great and sick at the same time.
The Swedish Democrats will disappear when the other parties start talking about immigration. Just raising it as an issue won't make you racist, which is what the other parties are afraid of. How many people are immigrating isn't a problem in my eyes, it's the fact that they all get dumped in the same part of some select cities.
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;27674624] Also, immigration (legal) is fine as long as the immigrant [b]integrates[/b] into the society. Muslims mostly don't integrate thus causing problems. This isn't only about Muslims. Same thing applies for Gypsies, Turkish people.[/QUOTE] if they immigrated legally then the society belongs as much to them as it does to you. Expecting them to pretend to be of Swedish ancestry when they aren't is delusional and childish. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Anton1k;27674971] Another point worth noting is that SD doesn't care about ethnicity when it comes to immigration. It's mainly about culture and values.[/QUOTE] Culture and values are a part of ethnicity. Ethnicity isn't a synonym for race
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27673467]Imagine if we still believed in Thor, Valhall and Ragnarök. That had been pretty cool.[/QUOTE] In the Morning Star there was a letter from a bloke from Tyneside talking about how he believes in Asatru and how their Gods are all loving and kind and so are their followers unlike Christians who cannot get hard without committing genocide (also they put a worldwide runic curse on the neo-Nazis so they don't count).
[QUOTE=Spooefy;27659096]I agree with him. sweden for swedish people!![/QUOTE] Sverige framförallt!
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27676222]if they immigrated legally then the society belongs as much to them as it does to you. Expecting them to pretend to be of Swedish ancestry when they aren't is delusional and childish.[/QUOTE] I agree, however, IMHO they could at the very least, learn the damn local language; I think that'd be a nice step towards social integration (and everything that comes along with it). If they just don't want to adapt to the local traditions and customary, well that's Ok by me, but then don't come at me complaining about discrimination and segregation, when you don't even take the trouble of learning the local language in order to properly communicate with the rest of the people--an ability that could help you get a better paid job, a better school, etc. Of course, I dunno how are the immigrants dealing with that in Sweden, hopefully some of you guys can tell us a little about it. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;27677642]In the Morning Star there was a letter from a bloke from Tyneside talking about how he believes in Asatru and how their Gods are all loving and kind and so are their followers [U]unlike Christians who cannot get hard without committing genocide[/U][/QUOTE] Now we're talking! I'm starting to like him already :v:
Plunder England in longboats, then have a tavern fight with the Scottish.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27676222]if they immigrated legally then the society belongs as much to them as it does to you. Expecting them to pretend to be of Swedish ancestry when they aren't is delusional and childish. [editline]26th January 2011[/editline] Culture and values are a part of ethnicity. Ethnicity isn't a synonym for race[/QUOTE] Oh well, I was indeed pointing at race. In any way many people believe SD actually judges people different based on race, which is completely false.
this whole thing sounds like the ridiculous "debate" england has over muslims
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