• Chloe Sagal, indie developer who's campaign to save her own life was cancelled has attempted suicide
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If that *is* what happened it wouldn't be super suprising that she would need money for that (by the way it's not a "Sex CHange", it's Sexual Reassignment Surgery, "Sex Change" is rather offensive slang). Almost no insurance companies actually cover it (despite it debatably being a lifesaving and improving surgery for the trans woman in question) because of it being considered a "cosmetic" surgery. Which is entirely thanks to, once again, fascist Radical Feminists like Janice Raymond.
If her condition is so bad she needs a life saving surgery, then why didn't she just post her documents stating her condition?
Also [quote=Allistair Pinsof]f you are seriously angry at me for calling her a "HE" you can screw off. He is a he in real life. I supported her. Telling the truth now.[/quote] This guy claims to be her friend, but then misgenders her one sentence and then gets it right the next?
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;40626064]lol, shut the fuck up yourself. I see were you're coming from but comments in an FP thread won't hurt a girl who's already dead [editline]13 May[/editline] yeah white knights, I'm sure your boxes will bring her back[/QUOTE]It's called being human jackass.
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;40628877]If her condition is so bad she needs a life saving surgery, then why didn't she just post her documents stating her condition?[/QUOTE] Read Above, also Op should the scam part to the Op. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=QueenSasha24;40628881]Also This guy claims to be her friend, but then misgenders her one sentence and then gets it right the next?[/QUOTE] Why is it that people seem to be attacking Alistair for this? All he did was say what she did and people seem to be attacking him for every little thing he's said thus far as if it somehow makes what he said less relevant.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40628892]Read Above, also Op should the scam part to the Op. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] Why is it that people seem to be attacking Alistair for this? All he did was say what she did and people seem to be attacking him for every little thing he's said thus far as if it somehow makes what he said less relevant.[/QUOTE] Isn't fraud a criminal activity? And isn't not reporting crime a crime in itself?
[QUOTE=MaddaCheeb;40628754]Now she really doesn't deserve empathy. Fuck her[/QUOTE] We have her word against one guy's word. There's zero evidence either way.
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;40628928]Isn't fraud a criminal activity? And isn't not reporting crime a crime in itself?[/QUOTE] Yes, and I believe blackmail is a crime as well.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40628892]Read Above, also Op should the scam part to the Op. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] Why is it that people seem to be attacking Alistair for this? All he did was say what she did and people seem to be attacking him for every little thing he's said thus far as if it somehow makes what he said less relevant.[/QUOTE] Because he's just making a bad situation worse.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40628414]Allistair Pinsof from Destructoid has spoken out on Twitter and confirmed what many suspected of Sagal's suspended fundraiser: it was a cover up for a botched sex-change surgery. She also blackmailed him into not reveling this apparently with the threat of takeing her own life. [url]https://twitter.com/DtoidAllistair[/url][/QUOTE] what a twist
[QUOTE=Alice3173;40628942]We have her word against one guy's word. There's zero evidence either way.[/QUOTE] Let's be fair, if you judge the facts it doesn't weigh out in Chloe's favour, the evidence litterly keeps mounting that its more likely a scam than not. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] Jeep-Eep Why all the boxes?
[QUOTE=Alice3173;40628942]We have her word against one guy's word. There's zero evidence either way.[/QUOTE] But naturally she's a "STUPID LYING WHORE" because she... may have been planning on using the money for a *different* life-saving operation.
[QUOTE=Solomon;40628950]Because he's just making a bad situation worse.[/QUOTE] Yeah, telling people the truth about a situation is wrong.
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;40628978]But naturally she's a "STUPID LYING WHORE" because she... may have been planning on using the money for a *different* life-saving operation.[/QUOTE] Opinion, not fact.
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;40628978]But naturally she's a "STUPID LYING WHORE" because she... may have been planning on using the money for a *different* life-saving operation.[/QUOTE] Er, but she did lie if that's the case.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40628995]Opinion, not fact.[/QUOTE] So now we're here then.
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;40629009]So now we're here then.[/QUOTE] Im not starting anything, im just saying that its an opinion not a fact.
[QUOTE=Thlis;40628982]Yeah, telling people the truth about a situation is wrong.[/QUOTE] It is in this case. The girl is in the hospital from an attempted suicide for crying out loud.
[QUOTE=Samoht;40628996]Er, but she did lie if that's the case.[/QUOTE] True, but really, does anyone here think she would've gotten anywhere near her goal to get her surgery if she had said it was for SRS? Fuck, look above, a lot of people still think it's completely optional and not at all life-saving, despite the facts showing it near universally (talking high 90s percent here) improves the life of the person who receives it. I'm not saying it would've been ok for her to lie in this situation, but try to have some sympathy for her, it's not like she planned on taking the money and running if this information is true.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40628995]Opinion, not fact.[/QUOTE] .....Seriously, dude? Seriously? Edit: Thlis, why don't you say something rather than giving me boxes to live in. At this point, I could make a fort with the boxes you've given me in this thread.
This is completely fucked up
[QUOTE=Solomon;40629030]It is in this case. The girl is in the hospital from an attempted suicide for crying out loud.[/QUOTE] Yeah, tragic, but it doesn't change the fact that the funding campaign was a scam and that she used emotional blackmail to suppress journalists. Also, what part of "Threatening to commit suicide should a journalist expose the truth is fucking heinous." do you disagree with?
[QUOTE=Solomon;40629030]It is in this case. The girl is in the hospital from an attempted suicide for crying out loud.[/QUOTE] I fail to see what this has to do with anything. [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Solomon;40629041].....Seriously, dude? Seriously? Edit: Thlis, why don't you say something rather than giving me boxes to live in. At this point, I could make a fort with the boxes you've given me in this thread.[/QUOTE] I believe you have given plenty as well [editline]13th May 2013[/editline] Actually you have given me plenty
[QUOTE=QueenSasha24;40628978]But naturally she's a "STUPID LYING WHORE" because she... may have been planning on using the money for a *different* life-saving operation.[/QUOTE] There's a diffirence here don't you think? There's one medical operation that literally saves your life, without it you're inevitably going to die of a decease. And then there's another medical operation that also saves your life, but from a diffirent matter that doesn't neccessarily lead to your inevitable death and is not as urgent as the last one. Saying you need the first, when in fact you plan to undergo the second looks like a lie and a scam to me. If that is all truth, of course.
[QUOTE=Thlis;40629066]Yeah, tragic, but it doesn't change the fact that the funding campaign was a scam and that she used emotional blackmail to suppress journalists. Also, what part of "Threatening to commit suicide should a journalist expose the truth is fucking heinous." do you disagree with?[/QUOTE] Do you think she'd have gotten the money she needed if she had stated her real case? As for the journalist, I'd probably do the same thing if I opened up to someone that I thought might be trustworthy, and they turned out not to be. If it was as serious as this, anyways. Also the disagree thing, I don't know why I clicked that cause I do agree with you.
[QUOTE=gudman;40629097]There's a diffirence here don't you think? There's one medical operation that literally saves your life, without it you're inevitably going to die of a decease. And then there's another medical operation that also saves your life, but from a diffirent matter that doesn't neccessarily lead to your inevitable death and is not as urgent as the last one. Saying you need the first, when in fact you plan to undergo the second looks like a lie and a scam to me. If that is all truth, of course.[/QUOTE] The reason that gender reassignment isn't given as since its not life threatening that gives the person time to arrange their own funds so please don't call it life saving.
[QUOTE=Solomon;40629125] I'd probably do the same thing if I opened up to someone that I thought might be trustworthy, and they turned out not to be. If it was as serious as this, anyways.[/QUOTE] Then you are a horrible wretch of a human being with no sense of emotional empathy towards others. Do you honestly feel that forcing someone to lie under threat of suicide in order to continue a scam is worth it?
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40629127]The reason that gender reassignment isn't given as since its not life threatening that gives the person time to arrange their own funds so please don't call it life saving.[/QUOTE] Right. Because people can just "arrange" $20,000 right?
[QUOTE=Thlis;40629139]Then you are a horrible wretch of a human being with no sense of emotional empathy towards others. Do you honestly feel that forcing someone to lie under threat of suicide in order to continue a scam is worth it?[/QUOTE] I do. It might not be something a lot of people would ever understand, but I do.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;40629127]The reason that gender reassignment isn't given as since its not life threatening that gives the person time to arrange their own funds so please don't call it life saving.[/QUOTE] What I meant by "life saving" is that it saves you from heavy emotional breakdown and depression. It's not "life-saving" in literal sense, yes, but it is very important for some people.
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