• Chloe Sagal, indie developer who's campaign to save her own life was cancelled has attempted suicide
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Fuck you Indiegogo, people voluntarily donated money to a person they felt worthy and gave this woman hope and then you snatched it all back after it reached its target. Hope this is a black mark on the site forever.
[QUOTE]SOS-団 Tyler1274: and everyone is blaming the people that insulted her even though it's clear that they were misled to believing she was lying and was just going to pocket the money hudsonian: yes SOS-団 Tyler1274: she sure tried to go maximum guilt on her way out the door [/QUOTE] ahem
Hey guys, let's make kjerr get in a car accident, have metal shrapnel get stuck in his body that will eventually kill him, make his entire family that matters to him hate him, and spread horrible rumors about him on the internet and let him see how he feels! Bottom line, if killing yourself for the above reasons, especially since YOU'RE GOING TO DIE ANYWAYS, is selfish, then so is dying because you can't afford a life-saving surgery.
[QUOTE=Reds;40622909]Christ, I had always assumed that it would blow over and Indiegogo would realise that they fucked up and give her the money.[/QUOTE] Wasn't this entire situation sketchy at best? I mean nobody really knew that she was dying or not or if she really was, and still yet to actually get an answer to this thing. I'm trying not to sound dickish but this seems like a way for her to run away from either one dying or two being outed as a scammer.
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40622977]ahem[/QUOTE] out
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40622913]wishing death upon somebody else gets agrees, while criticizing those who are selfish and leave behind people who love them gets dumbs? what is wrong with facepunches moral compass?[/QUOTE] How many times will you call facepunch a hivemind before you realize how dumb that is You're being a genuine ass
[QUOTE=Occlusion;40622798]Well that's terrible. Was she actually a transvestite? I just can't fathom why her "last words" would be fuck you to her family, unless it was because they hated her for it. Tragic :([/QUOTE] Transgender** And in regards to all this I just have no words. Other than sadness/anger that this could've been entirely prevented.
I HATE it when someone is really upset, not just talking about people being suicidal, and when they let it all out people just go "urgh stop trying to attention whore".
Guess who's never using Indiegogo again? This guy
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;40622979]Hey guys, let's make kjerr get in a car accident, have metal shrapnel get stuck in his body that will eventually kill him, make his entire family that matters to him hate him, and spread horrible rumors about him on the internet and let him see how he feels! Bottom line, if killing yourself for the above reasons, especially since YOU'RE GOING TO DIE ANYWAYS, is selfish, then so is dying because you can't afford a life-saving surgery.[/QUOTE] wishing a horrible injury and then death upon me?
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;40622815]She committed suicide because some guys from Reddit started doubting her for no reason at all other than to sound smart, and then a bunch of people listened to the people from Reddit.[/QUOTE] Links please
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40622983]How many times will you call facepunch a hivemind before you realize how dumb that is You're being a genuine ass[/QUOTE] Well seeing as the pageking post is getting mostly positive ratings I don't think his post is quite off the mark.
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40622977]ahem[/QUOTE] ok good thanks for the amazing contribution, this is totally a conclusive fact you're right we're wrong etc get banned
Fuck Indiegogo, if they never closed the fundraiser at the last minute when they got the necessary funds she could've had the operation to save her life and we wouldn't be reading about her suicide right now
Oh and fuck her family for disowning her and refusing to help foot the bill to save her life just because she's transgender
I wonder what prevented talks with Indiegogo's legal department so that she could have actually proved she wasn't scamming by providing pertinent medical information. Did she try to or did they just not listen?
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40622977]ahem[/QUOTE] what is your point Surely 'maximum guilt' is the way to go in situations like this where stupid accusations that were backed up with no evidence (i.e., the 'guilty until proven innocent' mindset) resulted in somebody killing themselves I don't even know why you're posting any more
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40623004]wishing a horrible injury and then death upon me?[/QUOTE] Way to take something out of context, I don't wish anything upon you other than your understanding which obviously isn't going to happen. I'm just saying, if you were in the exact same situation, wouldn't you would just rather get it overwith and die than die a more painful manner? Either way you're going to die, wouldn't you rather the less painful approach?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40623011]Oh and fuck her family for disowning her and refusing to help foot the bill to save her life just because she's transgender[/QUOTE] There are so many trans people who die each year because of reasons like this that we have to have a day to remember them all, and very rarely do people ever give enough of a shit to try and do something.
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40623004]wishing a horrible injury and then death upon me?[/QUOTE] well no, we're trying to make you understand the situation she was going through in hopes of you understanding the motives behind her actions 'empathy' would be the word people use for it - I'm not sure you're familiar with the concept?
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;40623006]Links please[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1c3t3z/indie_game_developer_chloe_sagals_lifesaving/[/url] [quote=]This was about 2 hours after putting a generic "I'm not gonna make it through the night" comment on both indiestone and on youtube. Every hint of this reeks of lying teenage girl. I still hope I'm wrong, but every stage of this seems questionable.[/quote] Several posts like this on here. And also: [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1bmequ/indie_game_homesick_developer_needs_life_saving/c985j27[/url]
[QUOTE=Juniez;40623027]well no, we're trying to make you understand the situation she was going through in hopes of you understanding the motives behind her actions[/QUOTE] you don't really understand someone's situation until you climb in their skin and walk around in it i guess it's pretty stupid of indiegogo for that to happen, because it seems to happen quite a bit. if her family acts as she said they do, then honestly here's hoping to their eventual guilt breakdown
This was kind of triggering.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;40622735][img]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6157/42227346.png[/img] wow.[/QUOTE] aaaaand in the red corner the internet's attitude to women/transgender people, nice job guys! hope you people are happy
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;40623015]I wonder what prevented talks with Indiegogo's legal department so that she could have actually proved she wasn't scamming by providing pertinent medical information. Did she try to or did they just not listen?[/QUOTE] Like I said literally there's no telling what's happened, for all we know Indiegogo could've request her to send her medical records and such and she didn't due she was lying or she actually sent them and didn't care. But right now it's almost impossible to tell since neither side even said anything regarding this event making it complete toss up.
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;40623018]I'm just saying, if you were in the exact same situation, wouldn't you would just rather get it overwith and die than die a more painful manner? Either way you're going to die, wouldn't you rather the less painful approach?[/QUOTE] Personally, I wouldn't stop fighting until god himself pulls me kicking and screaming to heaven or hell. There's no point in anything else. Life is the only thing that matters.
[QUOTE=Jackald;40623037]I don't understand why she couldn't get her life-saving surgery in the first place? Does the American Government not pay for life-threatening issues via medicare or something?[/QUOTE] unfortunately it seems like it doesn't but it's unsure if she had insurance [to my knowledge, anyway] so maybe that's why
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;40623030][URL]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chloe+sagal+reddit[/URL][/QUOTE] Just so you know, I'm pretty sure mods ban for lmgtfy links.
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;40623030]-LMGTFY link-[/QUOTE] Not specific enough - links to their raid would be appreciated
[QUOTE=mr kjerr;40623004]wishing a horrible injury and then death upon me?[/QUOTE] how to empathy idk lol
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