• Star Wars EU now NOT considered Canon
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[QUOTE=Rong;44646940]The new books that are coming out however, will be equally canon with the movies [thumb]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iB32tT5b--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/qtvsjfab5yn7acjosrka.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE]this cover is great
[QUOTE=LeonS;44645725]im saying it again hugo weaving as Thrawn, maybe fassbender, and youve got a 10/10 movie there[/QUOTE] Christoph Waltz as Talon Karrde. I will fight to the death for this casting.
[QUOTE=J!NX;44647008]Star Trek is amazing and TOS is legendary for its time but it still has a lot of "Wow am I really watching this crap" moments[/QUOTE] This comes up to mind [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ME05H5_6Y[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_0bQpsR9Ls[/media] (The voiceover is different for parody purposes, duh)
[QUOTE=psychojake;44647039]I'm still in denial of when [sp]Chewbacca died[/sp] in the New Jedi Order series, and now it's canon?[/QUOTE] No, it isn't, Chewbacca has already been confirmed to be in the new Films which take place after he is dead in the EU. [editline]26th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Rong;44646940]The new books that are coming out however, will be equally canon with the movies [thumb]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cD4VzTlC--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/yoxwrqpypusno3uj2r6s.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--FrTa1SrT--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/r5j41c3ya7gacydmbaxz.jpg[/thumb] [thumb]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iB32tT5b--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/qtvsjfab5yn7acjosrka.jpg[/thumb][thumb]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4UMAOzjp--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/ayrpnrgf7qn0dytj8i4n.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] Wow, I like those covers, a lot better then the Half-assed covers used on Trek Novels. For Example, the latest Voyager novel Pre-release: [url]http://puu.sh/8ogIj.jpg[/url] Release: [url]http://trekcore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/protectors-cover.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE]We'll cherry pick what we want from the EU[/QUOTE] Well, this should work, all the shit will be filtered out. Now all we have to worry about is executive meddling in the selection process- [QUOTE]The clone wars cartoon is canon[/QUOTE] This is the kinnda shit I'm talking about.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44650227]Well, this should work, all the shit will be filtered out. Now all we have to worry about is executive meddling in the selection process- This is the kinnda shit I'm talking about.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they're talking about the new one which I've never watched but the consensus seems to be that it's good, even better than the actual prequel trilogy
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44650383]I'm pretty sure they're talking about the new one which I've never watched but the consensus seems to be that it's good, even better than the actual prequel trilogy[/QUOTE] TCW is a pretty good show in it's own regards, common opinion is that the show gets better after seasons 1-2 due to production values increase making the quality better and overall stories better.
[QUOTE=LeonS;44644802]this + the thrawn trilogy + republic commando + KOTOR 1 and 2 + Jedi Academy /Jedi Outcast 1&2 + Shadows of the Empire[/QUOTE] x-wing saga, the starfighter games, dark forces, han solo trilogy and "tales" short stories. I mean yeah, generally speaking anything that centered Han, Leia and Luke was generally crap apart from the Thrawn saga, but a lot of the stuff that bypassed them was really cool. Crimson empire was also fairly cool. The main issue later EU stuff had, was that it was a global crisis after another global crisis. Thrawn>Ssiiruuk>hapans>vong>dark nest>Galactic alliance etc etc etc. And they had the titular trio solve most of the issues. It just started feeling meh and cheap.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;44645773]Grievous? Hes in Episode 3, so he is still canon. Also I'm pretty sure Clone Wars is included in this.[/QUOTE] i dont think he was referring to brigadier general bronchitis im pretty sure he was talking about commander crushyourface mc-murdereverything [video=youtube;WIj7gIDFDe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4[/video]
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44650227]Well, this should work, all the shit will be filtered out. Now all we have to worry about is executive meddling in the selection process- This is the kinnda shit I'm talking about.[/QUOTE] But the difference is the Clone Wars is actually good.
Can Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast be considered canon?
[QUOTE=Chonch;44650656]i dont think he was referring to brigadier general bronchitis im pretty sure he was talking about commander crushyourface mc-murdereverything [video=youtube;WIj7gIDFDe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4[/video][/QUOTE] Honestly that Grievous just sounds annoying.
I always assumed it was like comics with a big main canon that sprawled and created more universes each with their respective canon.
If the hollywood report link from the first page saying everything but the Movies, Clone Wars and Rebels being omitted from canon is the legit factor here, then that's basically 37 potential years of stories snuffed out into their own timeline. Disney will probably have to directly authorize what's canon and what isn't, meaning essentially, if any sub-series ever gets revisited, they'll probably have to be rebooted. Funny enough, this may also mean The Old Republic, still going, means nothing to the main canon anymore. And neither do the KotOR games. Republic Commando. Jedi Knight. Shadows of the Empire. The Force Unleashed. You name it, it still exists in physical form but now they're just.. Gone-gone instead of simply unacknowledged/ignored.
[QUOTE=Chonch;44650656]i dont think he was referring to brigadier general bronchitis im pretty sure he was talking about commander crushyourface mc-murdereverything [video=youtube;WIj7gIDFDe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4[/video][/QUOTE] THIS SERIES. those were a bazillion times better than the prequels, and thats saying something.
so basically george lucas has said if he didn't write it or pay for it then its not part of star wars? thats really selfish, good thing he's not incharge of LucasArts anymore
[QUOTE=Sableye;44651821]so basically george lucas has said if he didn't write it or pay for it then its not part of star wars? thats really selfish, good thing he's not incharge of LucasArts anymore[/QUOTE] Lucas has nothing to do with the new movies (Other then a basic story outline) or LucasFilm, hes done.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;44650979]But the difference is the Clone Wars is actually good.[/QUOTE] No, the cone wars is shit pretty much across the board. I sat down and watched it the whole way through because everyone kept telling me how great it was. It's not. It's a children's cartoon through and through and it makes no attempt to hide it. Nothing in there should be considered the least bit canon. It can be pretty to look at, I'll give it that, but that's about all it has going for it.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44652087]No, the cone wars is shit pretty much across the board. I sat down and watched it the whole way through because everyone kept telling me how great it was. It's not. It's a children's cartoon through and through and it makes no attempt to hide it. Nothing in there should be considered the least bit canon. It can be pretty to look at, I'll give it that, but that's about all it has going for it.[/QUOTE] Were we watching the same show because that's not how I see the show
so when farage and clegg are arguing about leaving the EU is this what they're on about?
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44652087]No, the cone wars is shit pretty much across the board. I sat down and watched it the whole way through because everyone kept telling me how great it was. It's not. It's a children's cartoon through and through and it makes no attempt to hide it. Nothing in there should be considered the least bit canon. It can be pretty to look at, I'll give it that, but that's about all it has going for it.[/QUOTE] I don't think a scene like this [url]http://i.minus.com/iBmbt2IHOw5iP.gif[/url] Would be in a Childrens Show? There is also a scene in a later episode where you see and hear someones neck being snapped. We obviously did not watch the same show.
This thread really [I]really[/I] shows off Facepunch's ability to not read an article yet still get deeply engrossed in just the title. Seriously. Go back and read the article, they're saying that they aren't using the EU as canon right now, it baffles me that people are just getting so worked up about something without reading the article.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44651821]so basically george lucas has said if he didn't write it or pay for it then its not part of star wars? thats really selfish, good thing he's not incharge of LucasArts anymore[/QUOTE] Man everything about this sentence is so incorrect lol the fact that you confused Lucasfilm and Lucasarts is the icing on the cake
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44647421]I absolutely loved that though. Grievous was a bad ass but he was an old sick one.[/QUOTE] A "bad ass" that does nothing but cough his lungs out and talk like a smug asshole while getting owned by padawans. In the Tartakovsky cartoon for a few glorious moments Grievous is one of the coolest fucking star wars characters ever, it's a huge waste of potential how in every other appearance he makes he basically exists just to yuck it up and lose to the good guys.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;44651132]Can Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast be considered canon?[/QUOTE] Jedi Outcast, maybe; depends on the Valley survives when the canon is streamlined or not. academy, probably not, due to when it takes place. See the the thread title is misleading as fuck. There's not an all canon or a no canon decision. Chee and the rest [B]are going to decide unilaterally once and for all what is canon and what is not.[/B] That hasn't taken place yet and won't be finalized until the last movie is done. The only stuff you can be sure that is erased at the current time are the Marvel comics, the Dark Horse Comics and the Traviss books. Everything else will be decided as they go and formalized. [editline]26th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Tuskin;44652226]I don't think a scene like this [URL]http://i.minus.com/iBmbt2IHOw5iP.gif[/URL] Would be in a Childrens Show? There is also a scene in a later episode where you see and hear someones neck being snapped. We obviously did not watch the same show.[/QUOTE] You're arguing with some who thinks Commander Shepard is a gurren lagann character. Just walk away.
[QUOTE=spekter;44644740]They're probably gonna use the shittier parts of the EU for future endeavors but one may hope we can enjoy a solid Kyle Katarn adventure in future.[/QUOTE] Or another, interesting toon like Jaden.
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44651161]Honestly that Grievous just sounds annoying.[/QUOTE] The voice was affected by the typical Youtube copyright pitch shift. Here's a better example. Makes the character sound a lot less like the psychopath he's portrayed as in The Clone Wars. [video=youtube;RwbO2GrGD0s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbO2GrGD0s[/video] I'm personally more privy to Matthew Wood's interpretation from Episode 3. Makes him seem more alien and strange, like he isn't just another cookie-cutter-hoity-toity-accented-nazi-fetishist that all the other Star Wars villains seem to be.
[QUOTE=psychojake;44647101]Wait a fucking second. [url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Tours]Star Tours[/url], that old silly Disney ride, is canon now too? The New Star Tours ride completely disregards the movie timelines too, and yet, it's still considered part of the Expanded Universe. Beautiful.[/QUOTE] The New Star Tours makes sense since in the EU [sp]the CIS droid army didn't stop fighting after Episode 3, even though they were severely crippled. Enarc was one of the stronghold planets, and the CIS eventually joined the Alliance to Restore the Republic (aka the Rebellion) shortly after the Battle of Yavin.[/sp] This is something I hope that the TV Star Wars Rebels addresses, since I would love explored more. Also it is still better than the original version of the ride, which featured the [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Star_III]Mythical Third Death Star[/url].
[QUOTE=Fangz;44654853]The New Star Tours makes sense since in the EU [sp]the CIS droid army didn't stop fighting after Episode 3, even though they were severely crippled. Enarc was one of the stronghold planets, and the CIS eventually joined the Alliance to Restore the Republic (aka the Rebellion) shortly after the Battle of Yavin.[/sp] This is something I hope that the TV Star Wars Rebels addresses, since I would love explored more.[/QUOTE] The rebels even used old CIS ships in their first fleets, their Flag Ship was Modified Providence Class Cruiser [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rebel_One[/url]
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44652087]No, the cone wars is shit pretty much across the board. I sat down and watched it the whole way through because everyone kept telling me how great it was. It's not. It's a children's cartoon through and through and it makes no attempt to hide it. Nothing in there should be considered the least bit canon. It can be pretty to look at, I'll give it that, but that's about all it has going for it.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/367/417/83c.gif[/img]
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