My oh my, this is an interesting new dealio. On one hand, it's forcing the hookers to pay for permission to work, but on the other hand it only affects the street-workers, so the call-girls (phone 'em up, make an appointment) and bordello-babes (girls in the whorehouses) aren't affected. Demoguy's suggestion of regular medical checkups is also important; nobody wants to catch an infection.
Perhaps one day the sex-worker may be as esteemed and revered as the rest of the proud working class. After all, they provide valuable services.
[QUOTE=Billiam;32129702]Oh wow, I didn't think Turkey would be down for that.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised it's not legal in Norway or Sweden.
[QUOTE=Swilly;32129789]Europe is famous for being more open with sex but being massively afraid of violence.
They're the polar opposite of the US.[/QUOTE]
which sorta makes sense because we've been in wars for each generation except after world war 2. That somewhat tends to make bloodshed a lot more painful than sex.
[QUOTE=Acesarge;32131606]I'm surprised it's not legal in Norway or Sweden.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, same here...
What's up with that?
Huh. Legalized prostitution. It sounds so strange, given the society which I was raised in, but even though it's so contrary to the ideals I was raised under, I can't help but question why it [i]should[/i] be illegal.
Philosophically speaking, prostitution is a choice, and so long as all parties are consenting and take the proper precautions to avoid the spread of sickness, it has no victim, and so it cannot be "wrong." Speculatively speaking, it seems likely that the symbolic representation of prostitution that is upheld by American society, of the downtrodden and desolate woman forced into the dangerous hands of pimps and drug dealers through desperation and ignorance, might simply be the result of a system which condemns prostitution as being morally reprehensible because of the longstanding and deeply-ingrained Christian values which we modeled our laws after. If prostitution were legal, could we not regulate it, making it safer and more lucrative? Is it truly exploitation if the men and women who pursue prostitution as a vocation are doing it of their own free will? I say no.
Yeah, I could get behind legalizing prostitution.
Sounds like it could be a good move though we'll see. I don't really think regulation would be needed as I think this is an area that can regulate itself. Customers are only going to hire workers who have safe credentials through maybe a doctor's note or something similar. I don't see what the regulation would do exactly. Customers aren't going to hire a worker without doctor's notes, therefore there is already an incentive to get checked out, making regulation a bit pointless. The issue of a worker forging a note is already illegal without regulation. I think the best the government could do would be to have some PSAs about an acceptable time for the worker's last checkup, and maybe throw in some tips like "always wear a condom".
Also, I have no qualms with pimps, or the purpose of a pimp. A pimp is simply a broker, a party that arranges a transaction between two individuals for a price that they might have otherwise disagreed on. The worker still has complete choice in whether they accept the deal or not. Pimping is a completely legitimate job, and the argument that it is immoral because a pimp sells someone else's body is incorrect as the same claim could be made about any job where a broker negotiates a labor contract. Where it is more wrong is that the pimp is not selling a body, but the service that the worker provides. Like with any black market, the issues people have with the pimp are not defined by what the profession entails, but rather the consequences that the illegality of pimping and prostitution cause.
[QUOTE=Pepin;32141061]Sounds like it could be a good move though we'll see. I don't really think regulation would be needed as I think this is an area that can regulate itself. Customers are only going to hire workers who have safe credentials through maybe a doctor's note or something similar. I don't see what the regulation would do exactly. Customers aren't going to hire a worker without doctor's notes, therefore there is already an incentive to get checked out, making regulation a bit pointless. The issue of a worker forging a note is already illegal without regulation. I think the best the government could do would be to have some PSAs about an acceptable time for the worker's last checkup, and maybe throw in some tips like "always wear a condom".[/QUOTE]
Allowing the formation of legal brothels, and requiring that brothels give all employees proper medical examinations, care, and benefits, would ensure that those brothels operated safely. It's "quality control." People would be much more trusting of an official, registered establishment that operated under strict health codes than they would of some random chick on the street. Hell, I would at least. I've got no plans to go pick up a prostitute, but if I [i]did[/i], I'd way rather put my faith in a "trusted brand," haha.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;32141152]Allowing the formation of legal brothels, and requiring that brothels give all employees proper medical examinations, care, and benefits, would ensure that those brothels operated safely. It's "quality control." People would be much more trusting of an official, registered establishment that operated under strict health codes than they would of some random chick on the street. Hell, I would at least. I've got no plans to go pick up a prostitute, but if I [i]did[/i], I'd way rather put my faith in a "trusted brand," haha.[/QUOTE]
I don't think government regulation requiring medicals exams would be needed. Brothels would on their own require medical examination for a number of reason. The first being to protect their employees. The second to protect their customers. The last to create a good name. It's easy to imagine how just one discovered STI could affect the reputation of a brothel, so the brothel has in their full interest make a good reputation for themselves. You could maybe make a case when knowledge of STI's was not so widespread, but as of now it is something consumers of this kind are very aware of. As far as medical care and benefits, I'm not quite sure what the means, but brothers should have the follow the same rules other businesses do.
I think the biggest issue with regulation would be that it would be perceived as government asserted safety. This is more true of those working the street. I think regulation would have an opposite effect because there would be less motivation for workers to prove and ensure they are clean. They would instead they'd go with the minimum requirements. Due to the government asserted safety, the consumer may now be willing to accept a worker under a condition that they previously wouldn't accept. To put it this way, there is less of a reason on the side of the consumer to ensure their safety with regulation, as opposed to with. This in turn would give the worker less incentive to get checked up more than they have to because the consumers likely wouldn't be demanding more safety. It's different with the worker than with brothels because if a worker's job ends badly they can easily find an alternative, and the investments the worker has made are likely small.
I'm still waiting for the prostitution industry to start distributing coupons and mail-in rebates.
[QUOTE=Omali;32147813]I'm still waiting for the prostitution industry to start distributing coupons and mail-in rebates.[/QUOTE]
Prostitute membership, free sex for a yearly fee.
Is it stealing if you rape a prostitute there?
[QUOTE=RopaDope;32153463]Is it stealing if you rape a prostitute there?[/QUOTE]
No because a prostitute sells a service. It would be forcing them to perform actions against their will. It would be completely comparable with forcing people to paint your house.
[QUOTE=Pepin;32155059]No because a prostitute sells a service. It would be forcing them to perform actions against their will. It would be completely comparable with forcing people to paint your house.[/QUOTE]
Unless you killed them, got a taxidermist to stuff them, then had sex with them.
[QUOTE=blubafoon;32155199]Unless you killed them, got a taxidermist to stuff them, then had sex with them.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I'd consider that sex.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;32129791]I went to turkey and phoaaar some nice booty there. Shame I was only 16.[/QUOTE]
First real pair of tits I saw (other than my mothers) was when I went to Amsterdam when I was 10ish
[QUOTE=blubafoon;32155199]Unless you killed them, got a taxidermist to stuff them, then had sex with them.[/QUOTE]
We need a "what the fuck" rating,
[QUOTE=smurfy;32127645]Say map!
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Prostitution_in_Europe.png/921px-Prostitution_in_Europe.png[/img]
red = illegal
blue = legal but ~underground~
green = legal and regulated[/QUOTE]
It saddens me that prostitution is illegal in the dick shaped areas of Europe.
[editline]7th September 2011[/editline]
Whoops, with the exception of Britain that is, and they even have a country that looks ready to suck on it.
[editline]7th September 2011[/editline]
Oh and Italy.
Rate me bad looking.
[QUOTE=Acesarge;32131606]I'm surprised it's not legal in Norway or Sweden.[/QUOTE]
Political correctness and the growing amount of feminists will keep it that way.
[QUOTE=iFail;32126393]hehe the machine's built by Siemens[/QUOTE]
I work for Siemens : \
[QUOTE=adam1172;32147102]Heh.
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/XsHuiK.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Dunno why you got dumb'd. It's a thread about sex, the post involved the word prostitute and the ratings resembled a sexual position. Pretty relevant in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32171602]Political correctness and the growing amount of feminists will keep it that way.[/QUOTE]
It's almost weird there still are feminists here. The gender equalization is near 100% equal.
Hell, we have more women then men in govnerment. In fact, out of the 8 major political parties, 6 are lead by women.
Countries by gender equality;
[QUOTE]1 Iceland - Up from 2nd
2 Norway - Down from 1st
3 Finland - Up from 4th
4 Sweden - Down from 3rd
5 New Zealand - No change
6 Republic of Ireland - Up from 8th
7 Denmark - No change
8 Lesotho - Up from 10th
9 Philippines - No change
10 Switzerland - Up from 13th
11 Spain - Up from 17th
12 South Africa - Down from 6th
13 Germany - Down from 12th
14 Belgium - Up from 33rd
15 UK - No change[/QUOTE]
[B]EDIT:[/B]
South Africa impresses me.
The US is 19th, France is 46th.
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