• How do you fight possible false rape reports? Get your MRA buddies and spam actual false rape report
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[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234530]People are gonna get quite a few messages from this, regardless of what you actually mean.[/QUOTE] Then they're clearly lacking in the reading comprehension department. The effectiveness of this isn't even mentioned.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43234556]Then they're clearly lacking in the reading comprehension department. The effectiveness of this isn't even mentioned.[/QUOTE] you should try to communicate your point more explicitly. You're being awfully wishy-washy about it.
[QUOTE=suzume;43234095]That sounds kinda disgusting, but where I live false rape reports are filed more common than real ones and the defendant is almost always found guilty. This is usually the result of black teenagers getting white girls pregnant, and the girls having no other way of breaking it to their southern conservative fathers.[/QUOTE] for some reason i have a hard time believing this. do you have any statistical evidence for this?
[QUOTE=Supacasey;43234463]My younger brother was accused of rape by his ex-gf. He was found guilty primarily due to the fact that she had a few bruises from a fight they had, though no-one cared about the fact that he had a few as well. He lost his job and is now serving six months in prison, and will [I]maybe[/I] be able to get this expunged from his record after an additional six months of anger management. Shortly after the sentencing she started poking fun at him over instagram and twitter with her friends, and he can't respond due to the fact that [I]she[/I] now has a restraining order against [I]him[/I] which apparently means she can talk to him all she wants but he can't even ask her to stop without violating it. What's worse is this shit's not totally unheard of anymore in the town we grew up in. So yeah, I'd say there's a false report problem.[/QUOTE] so she had bruises from your brother fighting her and you're not willing to believe that maybe he did do it?
[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234569]you should try to communicate your point more explicitly. You're being awfully wishy-washy about it.[/QUOTE] Probably because someone else is constantly misquoting him.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43234494]I'd say this is quite the anecdote. Personally I've never heard of a false rape accusation at all, so where does that leave us?[/QUOTE] don't think there's any concrete way of knowing how often it happens seeing as it's a crime built on deception and lies and all i mean there's only two people that are gonna know the truth and they're gonna have conflicting reports, right
[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234569]you should try to communicate your point more explicitly. You're being awfully wishy-washy about it.[/QUOTE] I apologise for expecting people to take a post for what it clearly says and nothing more, clearly I should account for every possible interpretation in future.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43234580]so she had bruises from your brother fighting her and you're not willing to believe that maybe he did do it?[/QUOTE] They were fighting each other, neither one was overbearingly beating on the other. It was about another girl, I was there.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43234580]so she had bruises from your brother fighting her and you're not willing to believe that maybe he did do it?[/QUOTE] Because fighting obviously leads to rape right? [editline]December 19[/editline] Ninja'd
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43234592]I apologise for expecting people to take a post for what it clearly says and nothing more, clearly I should account for every possible interpretation in future.[/QUOTE] why are you being indignant over being told to be more careful with how you present things?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;43234613]Mmm.. more ironic shitposting from Ownederd, what a surprise.[/QUOTE] what? I'm actually serious.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;43234613]Mmm.. more ironic shitposting from Ownederd, what a surprise.[/QUOTE] honestly as someone that finds his posts insufferable pretty often i thought he was being pretty reasonable for once
[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234605]why are you being indignant over being told to be more careful with how you present things?[/QUOTE] Because I was careful, and I said exactly what I meant. [I]You [/I]misunderstood [I]me[/I].
[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234605]why are you being indignant over being told to be more careful with how you present things?[/QUOTE] Irony lmao. [QUOTE=Ownederd;43234625]what? I'm actually serious.[/QUOTE] irony x 2
[QUOTE=TheHydra;43234205]you don't draw attention to a problem by causing it.[/QUOTE] While the majority of the ones doing it now are probably just doing it for the "lulz", I'd wager the original intent was meant to showcase how easy it is to make a false rape report and make it even tougher to potentially disprove it. Considering what it's become now though, is more of a farce.
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43234643]Irony lmao. irony x 2[/QUOTE] How is this 'irony' ? [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43234633]Because I was careful, and I said exactly what I meant. [I]You [/I]misunderstood [I]me[/I].[/QUOTE] I apologize, but the way you approached it was a bit vague to begin with. It seemed like that you were arguing that there was a positive point to it. Can you really blame people for getting that message?
guys guys guys what are you even arguing about anymore? [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] more importantly, what does it have to do with "false rape" reports?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43234801]guys guys guys what are you even arguing about anymore? [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] more importantly, what does it have to do with "false rape" reports?[/QUOTE] They're arguing about false rape reports? Edit: oh wait no, they're arguing about semantic bullshit. My bad.
They definitely went about it the wrong way, but it is still a massive issue that false rape reports by women 'raped' by men lead to immediate arrest and charges, but legitimate rape reports by men raped by women gets you laughed out of the precinct and brushed under the rug. 'Men can't be raped' should never have been a thing to begin with, and it's abhorrent that some people still believe this.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;43235054]They definitely went about it the wrong way, but it is still a massive issue that false rape reports by women 'raped' by men lead to immediate arrest and charges, but legitimate rape reports by men raped by women gets you laughed out of the precinct and brushed under the rug. 'Men can't be raped' should never have been a thing to begin with, and it's abhorrent that some people still believe this.[/QUOTE] then this is the worst thing to target, these reports don't result in police action only in action by the faculty, AND it even has 'gender:' as a specification so men who are the victims of sexual assault can report it without fear of being judged harshly or made fun of or whatever [editline]19th December 2013[/editline] not that MRA's give a shit about that, as they have proven again and again they don't give a shit about mens rights they just hate women
[QUOTE=Ownederd;43234664]How is this 'irony' ? I apologize, but the way you approached it was a bit vague to begin with. It seemed like that you were arguing that there was a positive point to it. Can you really blame people for getting that message?[/QUOTE] You saw a itty-bitty opportunity to attack him and you took it. Now you're trying to back out of it after others called you out on it, and the person you targeted provided plenty of proof that you were wrong. No half assed excuse is gonna save your ass here.
False rape accusations are on the rise. The purpose was to break a system that facilitated this. From the threads around the internet, it seems a student could be called into the office by any anonymous false report and shamed/degraded using this system.
I have absolutely no idea why people can't accept and agree on two key things about this article a) these people are fucking retards for doing something like this b) actual false rape reports - that is, person 1 in the relationship clamining that person 2 raped them when in fact no such event occured - even if they are in the minority of of cases, do exist and they are a big problem
I kinda feel that Men's Rights Activists don't really care about the actual rights of men and just kinda want to shit over feminism. Like, if you want to be taken seriously as an organization, stop doing this 4chan level of raid-y bullshit and go out there and build shelters/safe spaces for male abuse victims. I would also like people who claim false rape reports are a common thing or on the rise to back them up with statistics, since I can recall reading things before that say they are still rather rare and the amount of rapists actually jailed is very low, too.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43234572]for some reason i have a hard time believing this. do you have any statistical evidence for this?[/QUOTE] tbh that doesn't sound like it would be [I]impossible[/I] to happen in the deep south, although if it does happen it's definitely more a product of racism rather than misandry or some such silliness
[QUOTE=Kuro.;43235054]They definitely went about it the wrong way, but it is still a massive issue that false rape reports by women 'raped' by men lead to immediate arrest and charges, but legitimate rape reports by men raped by women gets you laughed out of the precinct and brushed under the rug. [/QUOTE] Yes. False reports are still much less of a problem proportionally speaking than legitimate reports being ignored [QUOTE=Kuro.;43235054]'Men can't be raped' should never have been a thing to begin with, and it's abhorrent that some people still believe this.[/QUOTE] By definition if you're a feminist you know that men can be raped.
Actually, for class I'm currently writing an essay on sex education and while doing research, I discovered that the notion of 'men can't get raped' existed centuries before feminism and feminists were some of the first people who brought the concept to light. I'll go see if I can find the source.
i've never understood why a few people always come in these threads and post "where i live this happens [i]all[/i] the time i know loads of guys who got sent down for rape but i know they didnt do it" um. okay? how do you know that? yeh maybe there is a false report in there but how can you honestly say with any conviction that you are certain they were all false? were you there? by the same conviction, i can claim that false rape reports aren't an issue because i know one guy who had one filed against him and he got off free. am i certain he didn't do it? not really. he doesn't seem like the kinda guy who'd do it but i dont fuckin know do i if you're gonna comment on an issue as serious as this can we please just stick to some kind of documented evidence or research if at all possible
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43236282] By definition if you're a feminist you know that men can be raped.[/QUOTE] Feminism isn't about equality. Its about fighting for womens rights. Plenty of feminists have this strange way of thinking. Something about how men have the power in the patriarchy.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43234259]really i think all this is doing is making more people realize how stupid and malicious MRA losers are[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ownederd;43234276]They're making people waste time and resources by going through false reports that are being submitted en-masse. MRAs are a joke.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;43235059]not that MRA's give a shit about that, as they have proven again and again they don't give a shit about mens rights they just hate women[/QUOTE] If anyone said anything like this about feminists, they'd be told "that's just the imaginary tumblr straw-feminist, [B]real[/B] feminists (lol true scotsman) aren't like that".
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