'Blurred Lines' banned from UK universities due to claims of encouraging "Rape culture"
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[QUOTE=pdp;42312039]The title? The "Blurred Lines" it's talking about are the blurred lines of consent when a girl is drunk.
But at the end of the day, it's just a song. Robin Thicke isn't a rapist lol.[/QUOTE]
He's talking about the nature of flirting ffs
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42311564]yawmwen weren't you the one that started a multi-page argument because GTAV didn't have a "trigger warning" because it included a scene where a clothed woman was near a nude man.
Yet here you're defending a song (that I'm told is) about rape?[/QUOTE]
having a trigger warning doesn't in any way restrict the consumption of the media. if people were saying they wanted to ban gta5 because of that rapey scene then i would be saying similar things to what i'm saying in this thread(that media shouldn't be censored).
just be to clear, they're not going to break down your door and start confiscating your record collection. all they're doing is not playing it in the student's union.
I read the lyrics, and they are horrible, but they're not as bad as people are making them out to be. It's about convincing a girl to have sex with you. Not holding her against her will.
There are hundreds of worse songs out there to do with sexual assault.
[QUOTE=Paramud;42311065]Censoring something to make people "feel safe" is a fucking shitty reason to censor something, and you should feel shitty for defending that position.
The university can ban anything it wants, it's a private organization, but it's still fucking terrible for them to censor art because they don't like the subject. I support this decision as much as I'd support them banning a painting depicting rape, [url=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rape_in_art]of which there is a shitload[/url].[/QUOTE]
ok i'm gonna go play anal cunt's entire discography at a union-sponsored event and cry censorship if they tell me to get the fuck out brb
so basically they're not allowing any rap music in their venues either????
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;42313918]so basically they're not allowing any rap music in their venues either????[/QUOTE]
i don't even listen to rap music and i know that rap isn't about sexual assault
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;42313918]so basically they're not allowing any rap music in their venues either????[/QUOTE]
Because all rap has to do with sex and money, right?
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;42314194]Because all rap has to do with sex and money, right?[/QUOTE]
that's the joke
[QUOTE=t h e;42310077]Honestly
I've never heard this song before. I've heard of it but I've never bothered listening to it, nor have I ever heard it on the radio or from someone's cellphone[/QUOTE]
do you leave your house often?
[editline]26th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;42314203]that's the joke[/QUOTE]
if you have to explain the joke, then its not a funny joke
[QUOTE=t h e;42310077]Honestly
I've never heard this song before. I've heard of it but I've never bothered listening to it, nor have I ever heard it on the radio or from someone's cellphone[/QUOTE]
I don't known how you didn't hear it. It was played constantly this summer and shot straight to the top of the pop charts.
[QUOTE=jaegerisacunt;42312224]He's talking about the nature of flirting ffs[/QUOTE]
And Sir Mix A Lot was just singing about his favorite conjunction.
I think the message we should send out is that people should stop acting as if they have the right to not be offended.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx-PEi42d7A[/media]
earl sweatshirt is a rapist ban this song
[editline]26th September 2013[/editline]
Robin Thicke's song (albeit a shit song) shouldn't be censored, nor should Earl's song, nor should any other song. It's a stupid argument.
earl's song didn't play at the headphone disco.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42309754]" Five British universities have banned Robin Thicke's hit single "Blurred Lines" from campus bars"
this implies the university itself is banning them.[/QUOTE]
That's because student unions have the right to make a university do something. They're part of the leadership in most.
Hell student unions take part in dean voting and similar things.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42310917]that doesn't automatically assume action was taken with the majority support of students.[/QUOTE]
Fairly easy to set up an opposition and bring it up. Since all students generally have the right to bring something to the floor, unlike politics where you need to be in specific role or have a large number of the population behind you.
the ban is more symbolic than anything i think, and it's nice to see. i think its probably supposed to make people think "wait why are they banning it? ... oh yeah i suppose the lyrics are a bit creepy"
[QUOTE=Hellduck;42314688]the ban is more symbolic than anything i think, and it's nice to see. i think its probably supposed to make people think "wait why are they banning it? ... oh yeah i suppose the lyrics are a bit creepy"[/QUOTE]
Where's your outrage?! THIS IS CENSORSHIP! TOOT TOOT, NEXT STOP HITLERTOWN!
Do people really believe that some folks are going to be stupid enough to go out doing bad shit because a song on the radio told them to?
You don't see me going to a bar and starting shit because Lil Jon told me:
[quote="Lil Jon"]If you see a nigga and he throwin' up a set and it aint yo' set
Or it aint yo' click
I want chall niggas to tell dem' niggas like dis
I want you to get up in that muthafucka' face
And do dis shit...
Say nigga fuck you!
Nigga fuck you [x7][/quote]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42311229]This one is very obviously saying it is ok to rape girls because they secretly want it.[/QUOTE]
REALLY!?
fucking hell, I saw this song, never watched it, but just saying that is enough really to say it all.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42309754]" Five British universities have banned Robin Thicke's hit single "Blurred Lines" from campus bars"
this implies the university itself is banning them.[/QUOTE]
not playing a song in a bar (private property) is not censorship
I'm really confused by the whole "rape culture" concept; I've never met a single person who with these weird notions about rape. I'm sure there must be people out there like that, but it doesn't seem to really warrant being designated as it's own culture...
[QUOTE=Robbobin;42316430]I'm really confused by the whole "rape culture" concept; I've never met a single person who with these weird notions about rape. I'm sure there must be people out there like that, but it doesn't seem to really warrant being designated as it's own culture...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rape_culture[/url]
Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anyone trivialize/condone rape, except some obvious jokes in poor taste.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;42316854]Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anyone trivialize/condone rape, except some obvious jokes in poor taste.[/QUOTE]
well youre lucky??
idk what answer youre looking for
[QUOTE=Robbobin;42316854]Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anyone trivialize/condone rape, except some obvious jokes in poor taste.[/QUOTE]
You ever seen someone use rape to describe defeat in a video game?
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;42316896]You ever seen someone use rape to describe defeat in a video game?[/QUOTE]
Sure, but surely the more worrying thing would be the trivialization of people being actually raped than lexicons being mixed up.
[QUOTE=Robbobin;42316974]Sure, but surely the more worrying thing would be the trivialization of people being actually raped.[/QUOTE]
[i]That's what it is[/i].
[QUOTE=Robbobin;42316430]I'm really confused by the whole "rape culture" concept; I've never met a single person who with these weird notions about rape. I'm sure there must be people out there like that, but it doesn't seem to really warrant being designated as it's own culture...[/QUOTE]
Rape culture is perhaps the wrong word for it, as it's stuff that often is damaging, sexually deameaning but not itself legally falling under the defnition of rape and how culture and sociaty often brushes it off as relative normal behaviour.
That said, in itself having a relative strict legal definition of rape is not bad by itself, as long as you have a way to target weaker forms like sexual harassment or sexual pressure.
The issue is, that in some countries and societies you only have the definition of rape and anything that falls just short of it is considered acceptable behaviour.
In others you tend to have a too wide definition of rape, which overall reduces the actual impact of the action as people start mixing around the more severe and less severe actions.
In others you have basically the best of both worlds where rapes are seperate but non-rape sexual pressure is still punished. Because it also exists as such in the legal system people get to know it much better.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;42316896]You ever seen someone use rape to describe defeat in a video game?[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's used in the concept of trivialising rape though. Basically rape has grown to have two definitions. Sexual rape, where someone forcibly has sex with someone. And a show of force thing where someone completely humiliatingly defeats someone trough a show of force.
So it would appear England is really becoming some kind of minority report dystopia or something like that. I wonder if its the grey or green aliens behind it all.
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