• CPAC: Conservatives fear generational shift to the left, call Millennials "spoiled"
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If millennials are spoiled, then who spoiled them? It's a retarded argument because it just reflects badly on the people who raised them. We seem more narcissistic because of the rise of social media and being able to post selfies everywhere but on the whole, we're not any different from the last generation other than a general bitterness that seems really common.
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;51880597][IMG]https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Y_wjadUJMXz1rBWJueFaBica_ug=/0x0:744x583/920x613/filters:focal(322x99:440x217):format(webp)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53398391/Screen_Shot_2017_02_23_at_11.09.34_AM.0.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] is it even possible to look more cunty than this guy? :v:
[QUOTE=Mining Bill;51881450]is it even possible to look more cunty than this guy? :v:[/QUOTE] I think he's perfect to wear the shirt to be honest
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;51880652]I don't get why some people have to associate a few fucked up politicians with republican supporters or any right winger. I doubt you will find many individuals here who are right wing that want to strip anyone of their rights.[/QUOTE] Even if the voters themselves aren't fucked up, the people they vote in sure as hell are.
Honestly I think just personally I'm the kind of person attuned for conservatism. I avoid risks and really don't like things like drinking, drugs, casual hookups, DEGENERACY, etc.. But I also research things like lgbt rights, economics, etc. and I have no options aside from the democrat party in the USA when it comes to voting because the republican party is typically goddamn retarded at best and downright evil at worst.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51881101]It doesn't help that many of us came of age just in time to see us bail out the banks for fucking over the entire world in the name of greed. If we were truly Capitalist, we would have told them "You fucked up, your fortune is gone and you have nobody to blame but yourself". And that'd be letting them off lightly, they should be trialed. But we did the worst thing we could do, we took money from the citizens of America and we gave it to them and told them "just don't do that again okay". And now look where the fuck we are, Republicans are currently working at repealing the restrictions put in place after 2008 because "it gets in the way of making money". [I]I fucking wonder why millennials are losing faith in Capitalism.[/I][/QUOTE] One problem with that view is that simply letting the banks fail doesn't just hurt them. All of the mutual funds and retirement funds with money in securitized mortgages would lose huge amounts of money. Not that they didn't but it would have been far worse. Using the banks as a millennial boogy man is nice but it doesn't get to the root of the problem. Risky lending by greedy bankers is one thing but it ignores the culpability of the regulators who did nothing, the lawmakers who repealed regulations, and the irresponsibility of the institutions who either deliberately mislead investors or whose gross negligence led to them missing the signs of the impeding collapse. I agree with your point that people coming of age near 2008 (I was one of them) lost faith in certain institutions of capitalism but I don't think it is helpful to only focus on the trope of the greedy banker.
Yeah, Millennials are spoiled. Everything requires a college degree of some kind that puts you into years of debt to even obtain to begin with, with high competition in everything, pensions are disappearing, health insurance costs a large percentage of everyone's paycheck, minimum wage isn't even close to a living wage, Rent and housing costs are up up up, social security which they pay into won't be around when it's time for them to collect Baby boomers only had to go through their shitty public school and at minimum wage you could own a house and a car, not to mention get promotions and good pay. College degrees weren't fucking required to earn more than $15/hour like they are TODAY, and you retired with a pension and still collect social security Who's spoiled, again?
[QUOTE]Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) said in a panel discussion that if millennials saw national monuments that pay homage to America’s heroes, they’d be more likely to adopt American values. "Come to Washington, go to the National Mall and see the memorials to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln — all of these great people who stood for all of these great ideas,” DeSantis said. “It’s all about articulating what it means to be an American. … That sense of history and understanding, I think, will make a big difference."[/QUOTE] This is so naive and cringeworthy. Maybe if we take them to Russia and show them Lenin's corpse, they'll come to understand just how great communism was :v: [editline]27th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Zero-Point;51881228]Good lord, what if THAT'S their goal? To make the job market so shit/lacking that people are forced to join the military just to get a job/education? :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] The military wants people who actually want to be there. Not job-seekers. I mean, they'll take you all the same as long as your background is clean, you're not crippled and you can make it through initial entry training without quitting or shitting the bed physically, but if all your joining for is to have a job with benefits though, you're going to be miserable. You have to drink a little of your branch's koolaid to make it, just enough to put up with the pain, exhaustion and bullshit.
Hey looks like the republican party is just as out of touch as the democratic party, just in different ways. [QUOTE]Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) said in a panel discussion that [B]if millennials saw national monuments that pay homage to America’s heroes, they’d be more likely to adopt American values.[/B][/QUOTE] What the fuck is this, I grew up in the washington area, that didn't make Bush any less of a trainwreck.
My parents dragged ne to memorials and all sorts of historical sites growing up. I have a distinct appreciation for the brave and wise men and women that make up the fabric that is the tapestry of America. All that's done is make me realize just how shit Trump is.
conservatism is inherently evil because it is basically the idea that regulation is bad because we should allow the wealthy to shit on us, because we should all hope to at some point be wealthy enough to shit on common people in an unregulated way so not only inherently evil, but also pretty stupid, being that it's impossible for everyone to be wealthy and that deregulation often times leads to even more wealth disparity and a complete lack of the upward mobility required to allow a common person to be elevated to the point where they might could shit on a few people.
[quote]if millennials saw national monuments that pay homage to America’s heroes, they’d be more likely to adopt American values.[/quote] does playing fallout 3 count? was president eden just trying to make america america again?
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;51880652]I don't get why some people have to associate a few fucked up politicians with republican supporters or any right winger. I doubt you will find many individuals here who are right wing that want to strip anyone of their rights.[/QUOTE] I always found it really annoying how in america, if you support the Republican party, you are a Republican. Where if you support the Tories in the UK, you're a Tory supporter. that small difference makes everything feel so much more tribal.
[QUOTE=gunguy765;51880968]"Conservatism is the new counterculture, guys. We have fight against these special snowflakes that are dominating our college campuses and remind these crybabies that Trump is their fuckin' president!!!" I remember meeting these group of students on my campus and told me if I was interested to sign up. I simply told them what of political agenda they were pushing and told me they weren't and just wanted protect first amendment rights. I said okay and signed up anyways. Later received an email stating that the group "believe that government is too big, free people and free markets make everyone’s life better, and both sides are to blame for the corruption and dysfunction happening on every level of government." Yeah, they were pushing an agenda, not surprised. Anyways, I get another email about one of their meeting: It speaks for itself. I was actually considering going to one those meeting for curiosity stake but I just didn't have the time. If I ever did, I'll just sit in the corner just to watch how this shitshow folds out. Here's the most recent email I received from them if want to see the type of rhetoric they're pushing:[/QUOTE] God I am so, so ready for them to realize that you can't be a fucking counter culture when the fucking government as it's currently laid out basically shares all your views and more. You're not some dangerous rebel going against the oppressive system you're just a loud indecent cunt.
[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;51880855]How many of those shitheads have ever actually fought for freedom. "Go look at a monument" fuck off.[/QUOTE] Well the uhh, Commander-in-Chief of the US military is a draft dodger so, I wouldn't hold faith in "fought for freedom" as an important metric anymore.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51881609]Honestly I think just personally I'm the kind of person attuned for conservatism. [B]I avoid risks and really don't like things like drinking, drugs, casual hookups, DEGENERACY, etc.. [/B][/QUOTE] These things aren't exclusive to social liberals. There's plenty of drunk, drug using, loose degenerates on the right, but they also have racism, sexism, and classism sprinkled on top. I don't like any of those things either my man, and I'm a fuckin' pinko (socialist). They're mutually exclusive :)
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51880604]"wait until we get a mortgage"[/QUOTE] Most of our generation is asking ourselves "Why would we agree to something we cannot afford in the first place?" I'd call that progress. It's just so that the reality is everything is built upon paying for shit with money you do not have in order to expedite it's arrival and keep the manic growth of the economy going. And so most of us, who seem shockingly rational about the situation, do not undertake these things because they are, in the very definition of the the term, irresponsible. Agreeing to pay for something with money you do not have is irresponsible. I'd say they taught us perfectly well. Credit is a flawed practice. And on top of this, the economy we would be supporting by putting ourselves in massive debt to keep it running is not working in our favor anyway. Businesses are taking the profits and paying their shareholders, not creating new jobs. Jobs are an added expense.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;51880715]Been to DC and saw all these monuments personally. They portray our founding fathers like Greek gods, so clearly Republican's minds are too busy being stuck in some mythology to pay attention to reality. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/George_Washington_Greenough_statue.jpg/1200px-George_Washington_Greenough_statue.jpg[/t] A picture for reference. He looks more like Hercules than the president :v:[/QUOTE] given how shallow american nationalism is, it makes sense that they would seek to elevate the founders of the country into semi-deities who were paragons of virtue to hold the brittle nation together. like lincoln wasn't some superman, he was clinically depressed and spent much of his life battling suicidal thoughts. george washington was an incompetent general and politician. the rest of americas politicians have spent just as much time fighting one another, fucking mistresses behind their wives backs, being hypocrites, and starting unjust wars and committing atrocities much like history elsewhere.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51880917]Minllenials are so spoiled. Our great president had to make do with a small loan of just a million dollars to get his huge business empire started and look where he is now! What do kids today get? Everything.[/QUOTE] Because turning $1 million into $3.7 billion is the easiest feat to achieve.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51882800]Because turning $1 million into $3.7 billion is the easiest feat to achieve.[/QUOTE] Give me a million, we will find out.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;51880715]Been to DC and saw all these monuments personally. They portray our founding fathers like Greek gods, so clearly Republican's minds are too busy being stuck in some mythology to pay attention to reality. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/George_Washington_Greenough_statue.jpg/1200px-George_Washington_Greenough_statue.jpg[/t] A picture for reference. He looks more like [B]Hercules[/B] than the president :v:[/QUOTE] Or supposedly be Wastington as [I]Zeus[/I], I guess? [editline]27th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;51882511]given how shallow american nationalism is, it makes sense that they would seek to elevate the founders of the country into semi-deities who were paragons of virtue to hold the brittle nation together. like lincoln wasn't some superman, he was clinically depressed and spent much of his life battling suicidal thoughts. george washington was an incompetent general and politician. the rest of americas politicians have spent just as much time fighting one another, fucking mistresses behind their wives backs, being hypocrites, and starting unjust wars and committing atrocities much like history elsewhere.[/QUOTE] And if deification as Pan?
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51882800]Because turning $1 million into $3.7 billion is the easiest feat to achieve.[/QUOTE] You must be outright [I]trying[/I] to miss the point this hard.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51882800]Because turning $1 million into $3.7 billion is the easiest feat to achieve.[/QUOTE] He didn't exactly do that, though. He didn't go from nothing to a million to then 3.7b. He started with a privileged position in a family whose bloodline was already so wealthy that he had no potential to fail whatsoever no matter how hard he fucked up or how poor his decision making was. Then at some point after somehow making it through the easiest starting position in all of humanity, he was then given something that nobody would ever qualify for (said loan), which was inconsequential anyway as he would eventually directly inherit ownership of his family's vast fortune after a few people get old and die. This million dollar loan thing is inconsequential because he was destined to be the heir to the trump throne regardless. And I've also read that, had this inherited fortune been held under a blind trust, basically if trump didn't have any control over it, it would be worth far more than it is today under his flawed guidance.
[QUOTE=J Paul;51882892]He didn't exactly do that, though. He didn't go from nothing to a million to then 3.7b. He started with a privileged position in a family whose bloodline was already so wealthy that he had no potential to fail whatsoever no matter how hard he fucked up or how poor his decision making was. Then at some point after somehow making it through the easiest starting position in all of humanity, he was then given something that nobody would ever qualify for (said loan), which was inconsequential anyway as he would eventually directly inherit ownership of his family's vast fortune after a few people get old and die. This million dollar loan thing is inconsequential because he was destined to be the heir to the trump throne regardless. And I've also read that, had this inherited fortune been held under a blind trust, basically if trump didn't have any control over it, it would be worth far more than it is today under his flawed guidance.[/QUOTE] Let's not forget the chapter 11's...yeah, sorry, not buying the 'self-made man' platitude for one second. Dude's a chump who gamed the system at taxpayers expense ([B]the cunt doesn't even pay federal income taxes[/B]).
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;51882983]Let's not forget the chapter 11's...yeah, sorry, not buying the 'self-made man' platitude for one second. Dude's a chump who gamed the system at taxpayers expense ([B]the cunt doesn't even pay federal income taxes[/B]).[/QUOTE] Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51883007]Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.[/QUOTE] See, you're the kind of people that justify the stereotype of Trump voters being mongoloids.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51883007]Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.[/QUOTE] Imagine if other morally outrageous but not technically illegal shit got this same kind of white-washing? Why not fuck your best friend's wife if you won't get caught/penalized? It's not illegal, after all. The amount of mental gymnastics people do to exonerate this guy and other white-collar cunts is astounding to me. Tell me, do you feel the same sympathy for people who get disability benefits but don't actually have a disability? Or people who claim a bullshit reason to have a service animal? "Haha they're just smart, don't h8, more people should be like them ;)"
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51883007]Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.[/QUOTE] Or he evaded taxes, a federal crime.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51883007]Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.[/QUOTE] This is up there with print your own money.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51883007]Why pay taxes if you don't have to? He was smart about the whole thing tbh.[/QUOTE] Real smart when he dodges his obligations as a fucking citizen of the country, which is to pay taxes and to show no discrimination in his businesses, but no, he's pulled off some of the most scum-fucked things a businessman could do instead. Those taxes you're so proud he dodged pay for your privileged lifestyles in a first world country, your infrastructure, your communications, including your internet, your water supply, and the soldiers who protect America. Every dollar less that people dodge paying makes America itself poorer and the quality of the services you get worse and worse, especially so when so much is frittered away on things like bailing out banks or looted by dishonest senators and congressmen. Think in this angle for once instead of feeling "proud" this piece of human trash is getting away with his obligations, unless you still believe it's alright for the rest of the country to get fucked over by people like him.
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