• Local family's emergency trip to hospital interrupted by protestors
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[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41497205]- parks - state capitols - police stations you don't need to block a public roadway in order to get your protests point of view across.[/QUOTE] Sure if you want a pointless protests that never change anything. ALL important protests in history started illegal.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41497335]...and it also delayed someone who was having an emergency that had to get to the hospital asap whether it was intentional or not.[/QUOTE] do you have a short attention span? do you understand the point i have been trying to make to you with my last several posts? it almost seems like you are purposely dodging the essence of what i'm saying just to frustrate me.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497313]That doesn't matter, I'm just pointing out the bullshit zimmerheads has been saying and than they cry when the other side does it. It's like this court case turned into a football game and everyone blindly rooting a team just for the sake of it. I have my own personal reasons for calling for riots.[/QUOTE] So let me get this straight. You are now complaining about people blindly rooting for a team right after calling for a riot should a court find someone not guilty?
[QUOTE=Iago;41497363]Sure if you want a pointless protests that never change anything. ALL important protests in history started illegal.[/QUOTE] These protests are truly the civil rights movement of our time.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;41497221]It's baffling to hear everyone say "the police is right, laws are here for a reason" when it's about Zimmerman and switch without a second thought to "fuck da police, leak everything" when it's about Snowden.[/QUOTE] Exactly, the worst counter argument is always "B-b-but it's the law" If everyone thought like that Rosa Park's phatass would still be at the back of the bus.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41497389]These protests are truly the civil rights movement of our time.[/QUOTE] maybe they are, we don't know the future. maybe the connections people are making at these protests will eventually evolve into a movement that will help push us closer to an egalitarian society.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497342]to be fair, a news station makes money from advertising, which comes from ratings, which comes from people with ratings boxes watching tv. more people you get watching your network, the more money you make. so media corporations do have an incentive to sensationalize issues that are currently going on for the sake of making it more entertaining to watch. the media sensationalizes everything, especially the 24 hour news stations.[/QUOTE] I agree, but I don't think it's some sort of social engineering conspiracy like how Lamar hints it is. The media happily turned against Trayvon when the case ended and it turns out they get more ratings from constantly producing stories about scary blacks that could riot at any moment in pro-Trayvon protests than continuing to defend him after George was found not-guilty.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497410]Exactly, the worst counter argument is always "B-b-but it's the law" If everyone thought like that Rosa Park's phatass would still be at the back of the bus.[/QUOTE] Surprisingly enough, some laws make sense, especially when it revolves around getting people access to services provided by the government.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497313]I have my own personal reasons for calling for riots.[/QUOTE] so you complain about people "blindly rooting a team just for the sake of it", all the while calling for riots with your "black panther friends" if the trial didn't go the way you wanted it to and are now trying to justify that lmao
[QUOTE=Ziron;41497416]I agree, but I don't think it's some sort of social engineering conspiracy like how Lamar hints it is. The media happily turned against Trayvon when the case ended and it turns out they get more ratings from constantly producing stories about scary blacks that could riot at any moment in pro-Trayvon protests than continuing to defend him after George was found not-guilty.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, when did I ever suggest or hint that this was a conspiracy?
[QUOTE=Ziron;41497416]I agree, but I don't think it's some sort of social engineering conspiracy like how Lamar hints it is. The media happily turned against Trayvon when the case ended and it turns out they get more ratings from constantly producing stories about scary blacks that could riot at any moment in pro-Trayvon protests than continuing to defend him after George was found not-guilty.[/QUOTE] yea it isn't a conspiracy, it's more of a symptom of a society and economic system that makes it profitable for people to exploit issues like this.
[QUOTE=Thlis;41497247]So calling someone a Traybot, still a stupid name, is wrong but call someone a is alright?[/QUOTE] The thing is, i'm not calling all Zman supporters white knights. I was calling Zman a white knight and people like him. Besides that was in GDi where all posts are mostly satire.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497459]The thing is, i'm not calling all Zman supporters white knights. I was calling Zman a white knight and people like him. Besides that was in GDi where all posts are mostly satire.[/QUOTE] You were still using a harsh discriminatory term freely against those you disagreed with.
[quote]They are called traybots because they have been programmed by the MSM and civil rights leaders for a year to believe that this whole ordeal has been a massive race scandal instead of an open and shut case of self-defense. [/quote] Sounds like to me you're trying to portray Trayvon supporters as tools manipulated by MSM and civil rights leaders because they wanted a race issue for some reason instead of people that have their own opinions.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;41497221]It's baffling to hear everyone say "the police is right, laws are here for a reason" when it's about Zimmerman and switch without a second thought to "fuck da police, leak everything" when it's about Snowden.[/QUOTE] I'm not an anarchist. The government enforces many useful laws that tackle legitimate problems.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41497330]zimmerheads? really? that's as dumb as traybots[/QUOTE] That's my point, both words are dumb and childish.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497370]do you have a short attention span? do you understand the point i have been trying to make to you with my last several posts? it almost seems like you are purposely dodging the essence of what i'm saying just to frustrate me.[/QUOTE] there's always an alternative way to something. It might not be the best, but it's probably better than disrupting peoples lives who have no association with these protests and don't want to get involved with it. They just want to get to where they're going and not be inconvenienced by a group of people blocking a roadway because they're mad and want to make everyone else miserable.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41497549]there's always an alternative way to something. It might not be the best, but it's probably better than disrupting peoples lives who have no association with these protests and don't want to get involved with it. They just want to get to where they're going and not be inconvenienced by a group of people blocking a roadway because they're mad and want to make everyone else miserable.[/QUOTE] What's going to get more attention to your cause; sitting around in a park or disrupting a highway? Think about it.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497363]Sure if you want a pointless protests that never change anything. ALL important protests in history started illegal.[/QUOTE] What do you think these protests are trying to change? All they're doing is throwing a fit over the justice system working correctly in a clear case of self-defence. If you wanted to protest against racial discrimination there wouldn't be an issue, it's just that fronting your case with something that was only related to racial issues after a news outlet edited a 9/11 call automatically discredits you and is outright retarded
[QUOTE=Ziron;41497567]What's going to get more attention to your cause; sitting around in a park or disrupting a highway? Think about it.[/QUOTE] I'd rather them disrupt somewhere that isn't directly in the way of a hospital or other emergency services. They may not protest there intentionally but, no one should have to suffer because of that.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41497500]I'm not an anarchist. The government enforces many useful laws that tackle legitimate problems.[/QUOTE] let's say you are 100% right, you still have to admit that the government has the potential to write laws that are not useful, that do not tackle legitimate problems, and can actually harm people. with that in mind the legality of any act does not define the morality, simply because it is possible for the government to be wrong about it. so whether you view an act as being moral or justified ends up having to do less with the legality, and more with your own moral compass. someone who denounces acts simply because of their legal status is making the assumption that the government always writes legitimate laws, which i think is a very dangerous attitude.
I don't see why she didn't just back up and mow them down at full speed.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41497549]there's always an alternative way to something. It might not be the best, but it's probably better than disrupting peoples lives who have no association with these protests and don't want to get involved with it. They just want to get to where they're going and not be inconvenienced by a group of people blocking a roadway because they're mad and want to make everyone else miserable.[/QUOTE] but the fact that it disrupts life for people just trying to go about their daily business is how the whole civil disobedience tactic gains effectiveness, especially over the long term.
[QUOTE=Taggart;41497427]so you complain about people "blindly rooting a team just for the sake of it", all the while calling for riots with your "black panther friends" if the trial didn't go the way you wanted it to and are now trying to justify that lmao[/QUOTE] I never choosen a side to this trial, I point out that Zman was pretty dumb and was most likely the aggressor IN MY OPINION. But I could give 0 fucks about some dead kid or a guy getting locked up. I am interested in the stuff that AFTER the trial, so stop putting words in my mouth thanks.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497610]I never choosen a side to this trial, I point out that Zman was pretty dumb and was most likely the aggressor IN MY OPINION. But I could give 0 fucks about some dead kid or a guy getting locked up. I am interested in the stuff that AFTER the trial, so stop putting words in my mouth thanks.[/QUOTE] Never chose a side does not really coincide with calling for a riot if someone is found innocent.
[QUOTE=Iago;41497610]I never choosen a side to this trial, I point out that Zman was pretty dumb and [B]was most likely the aggressor IN MY OPINION.[/B] But I could give 0 fucks about some dead kid or a guy getting locked up. I am interested in the stuff that AFTER the trial, so stop putting words in my mouth thanks.[/QUOTE] how is this not choosing a side [QUOTE=Iago;41421428]He will be declare innocent for all charges. Good news is that my fellow black panthers will tear shit up. Teach those white knights faggots a lesson. This will be bigger than the LA riots. Remember what I told you all. I fucking warned you guys this will happen.[/QUOTE] how is this not choosing a side
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497606]but the fact that it disrupts life for people just trying to go about their daily business is how the whole civil disobedience tactic gains effectiveness, especially over the long term.[/QUOTE] That worked really well for Occupy.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497606]but the fact that it disrupts life for people just trying to go about their daily business is how the whole civil disobedience tactic gains effectiveness, especially over the long term.[/QUOTE] I see why they would do that and it's been done before in the civil rights movement and stuff and it worked but, protesting in front of a hospital or on major roadways that is the main route to that hospital or other emergency services isn't ok.
I thought Facepunch fully supported blocking public roads when Occupy did it...
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;41497655]I thought Facepunch fully supported blocking public roads when Occupy did it...[/QUOTE] How many times must it be said before it is hammered into everyone's skulls that Facepunch is not a hivemind. 10 - 15 people out of everyone post in a thread that is relevant to their interests.
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