Local family's emergency trip to hospital interrupted by protestors
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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41498054]Just like your freakish nipples were your friend's?[/QUOTE]
That's just low bro...
[QUOTE=Kyle902;41498076]Money stolen from banks is insured by the government, not corporations.[/QUOTE]
nah it's insured by the fdic which doesn't get funding from the government. it runs like a normal insurance company, it uses its premiums to pay for claims.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498094]destroying a small business could certainly be violent and i have mixed feelings regarding the use of force on small businesses. however, there is very little argument to be made that it really impacts the health of anyone by destroying a large corporation.[/QUOTE]
Except for the people who are unemployed as a result?
[QUOTE=Iago;41498103]That's just low bro...[/QUOTE]
You kind of bring this shit on yourself when you post a picture of that stuff and have an attitude like this one.
[QUOTE=snapshot32;41498099]Okay, can I burn down your house in protest of your stupid posts?
After all, it can't be violent if I only burn down your house.[/QUOTE]
does burning my house down hurt my health in any way?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498094]destroying a small business could certainly be violent and i have mixed feelings regarding the use of force on small businesses. however, there is very little argument to be made that it really impacts the health of anyone by destroying a large corporation.[/QUOTE]
Oh, so your idea of violence now also depends on whether you're hitting the little guy or not?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498122]does burning my house down hurt my health in any way?[/QUOTE]
Oh I see where you are going.
You are going with the most literal interpretation of the word damage.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498122]does burning my house down hurt my health in any way?[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't.
As long as you stay outside while I torch that shit, I can have a successful protest and you stay unharmed. :smile:
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i'm pretty sure the government is under no legal obligation to provide riot relief. if you don't like paying for me breaking things i find oppressive, then maybe you should tell the government to stop paying for it.
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This is the dumbest thing, it literally makes no sense. You are just saying that you can ruin things and its the government's fault that the people have to pay for the destruction of property that YOU caused.
[QUOTE][B]btw i am an anarchist, and i am angsty sometimes, although i try not to mix my angst and anarchism.[/B][/QUOTE]
I can not get over how ~edgy~ that is.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497963]probably an insurance company, possibly the bank. either way, no person is really hurt by smashing a bank.[/QUOTE]
Okay, The bank gets higher insurance rates which means the profit margins go down which leads to pressure from shareholders to raise profits so they either change rates or create new products to rip you off, or they go and exploit the fine print they have as a nice safe guard against this shit. Meanwhile someones rates have gone up and they cannot afford a mortgage payment, she misses payments and is out on the street. With a life insurance policy and 3 kids and a disabled husband to look after she makes the tough decision for them, she commits suicide to try and help them financially.
Let alone the workers out of work whilst the bank is fixed and possible downsizing to pay for the repairs if the insurance fails to pay.
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but i'm sorry people should only be allowed to protest against things they feel are unjust when it doesn't actually impact anyone's lives right?[/QUOTE]
People can protest all they want but do so in a manner that doesn't hurt other people. Seriously, pissing people off is NOT the way to get people for your cause.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41498128]Oh, so your idea of violence now also depends on whether you're hitting the little guy or not?[/QUOTE]
no it depends on whether my actions are responsible for hurting the health of another person. i can make the claim that trashing a small business directly hurts a middle class family by taking some of their income.
i can't really say the same about smashing a corporation. all the damage will be paid for by an artificial entity, not by an individual(sorta the point of a corporate entity in the first place).
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498214]no it depends on whether my actions are responsible for hurting the health of another person. i can make the claim that trashing a small business directly hurts a middle class family by taking some of their income.
i can't really say the same about smashing a corporation. all the damage will be paid for by an artificial entity, not by an individual(sorta the point of a corporate entity in the first place).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, trashing a store obviously won't put a lot of people out of employment for a while!
i don't wanna derail this thread too much with my personal philosophy regarding society but i view corporations as inherently evil to begin with. eroding their power and profits is ultimately beneficial to society because it might mean that we can eventually live in a world without them.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498251]i don't wanna derail this thread too much with my personal philosophy regarding society but i view corporations as inherently evil to begin with. eroding their power and profits is ultimately beneficial to society because it might mean that we can eventually live in a world without them.[/QUOTE]
So how exactly would one go around and make sure that all businesses stay small?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498251]i don't wanna derail this thread too much with my personal philosophy regarding society but i view corporations as inherently evil to begin with. eroding their power and profits is ultimately beneficial to society because it might mean that we can eventually live in a world without them.[/QUOTE]
They have their boot on our neck anyway, you spit in their face and they just squeeze some more, only way to do it would be to take the entire banking and corporation system down in one go.
Whilst your cause has a noble outlook it has far too many failings. Educate about these things and then realise what you can do.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;41498274]So how exactly would one go around and make sure that all businesses stay small?[/QUOTE]
ideally small businesses wouldn't exist either. private ownership of production and distribution is theft and should be abolished.
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[QUOTE=benwaddi;41498282]They have their boot on our neck anyway, you spit in their face and they just squeeze some more, only way to do it would be to take the entire banking and corporation system down in one go.[/QUOTE]
you can begin to erode their power in various ways. not only through direct civil dissent, but also through community organization and education.
[editline]17th July 2013[/editline]
but i mean this is way off topic and we shouldn't be talking about this anymore.
if you are truly interested in learning more about my anarchist philosophy you can pm me and argue with me all you want.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498291]ideally small businesses wouldn't exist either. private ownership of production and distribution is theft and should be abolished.
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But destruction of property is okay??
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498291]ideally small businesses wouldn't exist either. private ownership of production and distribution is theft and should be abolished.[/QUOTE]
That's dumb, why do all anarchists want freedom but end up contradicting themselves with bullshit like "no propery rights for big scary walmart" then forcefully take it away and say it's theft and belong to all of them now.
Anarchy is a joke.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498291]private ownership of production and distribution is theft and should be abolished.[/QUOTE]
hey i really enjoyed my middle school economics class too
[QUOTE=Iago;41498382]That's dumb, why do all anarchists want freedom but end up contradicting themselves with bullshit like "no propery rights for big scary walmart" then forcefully take it away and say it's theft and belong to all of them now.
Anarchy is a joke.[/QUOTE]
working for a private enterprise is to subject yourself to the domination of others, which goes against anarchist philosophy.
pm me for more info :)
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498291]ideally small businesses wouldn't exist either. private ownership of production and distribution is theft and should be abolished.
[editline]17th July 2013[/editline]
you can begin to erode their power in various ways. not only through direct civil dissent, but also through community organization and education.
[editline]17th July 2013[/editline]
but i mean this is way off topic and we shouldn't be talking about this anymore.
if you are truly interested in learning more about my anarchist philosophy you can pm me and argue with me all you want.[/QUOTE]
We had something like that. It was called "The Cottage System". It didn't work and wouldn't work even more today.
[QUOTE=Iago;41498382]That's dumb, why do all anarchists want freedom but end up contradicting themselves with bullshit like "no propery rights for big scary walmart" then forcefully take it away and say it's theft and belong to all of them now.
Anarchy is a joke.[/QUOTE]
Wow you really don't know shit about anarchism if you think that.
[QUOTE=Iago;41498382]That's dumb, why do all anarchists want freedom but end up contradicting themselves with bullshit like "no propery rights for big scary walmart" then forcefully take it away and say it's theft and belong to all of them now.
Anarchy is a joke.[/QUOTE]
It's more about different forms of freedom. No property rights is a different form of freedom to everyone having everything.
Also, nice title.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41497175]i'm asking for alternatives that are also disruptive. the fact that blocking a highway is disruptive is a good thing as far as effectiveness as an act of civil disobedience goes. so instead of blocking a highway, what could protesters do that would disrupt life for people, but also not endanger life?[/QUOTE]
It's not that effective though. It's not showing anyone your plight and it's not making people aware. All it does it make people think, "Those fucking violent assholes have made me stuck here for hours"
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41498394]working for a private enterprise is to subject yourself to the domination of others[/QUOTE]
Say I get a job at a local hardware store. I make money, and I'm happy that I do so, and I help customers get their products that they desire.
[B]OH WOE IS ME I AM BEING SUBJECT TO ABSOLUTE [I]MISERY[/I] BY THE SYSTEM! SOMEONE RESCUE ME FROM THIS BOURGEOIS DICTATORIAL POLICE STATE![/B]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41499274]Say I get a job at a local hardware store. I make money, and I'm happy that I do so, and I help customers get their products that they desire.
[B]OH WOE IS ME I AM BEING SUBJECT TO ABSOLUTE [I]MISERY[/I] BY THE SYSTEM! SOMEONE RESCUE ME FROM THIS BOURGEOIS DICTATORIAL POLICE STATE![/B][/QUOTE]
Congratulations, a perfect example of how the current system can work the benefit of both parties.
If Anarchy really did work I'd want it to be exactly like Freedom in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41496214]wow could this headline be more sensationalist? no "traybots"(can this be bannable now plz) tried to prevent a family from getting to a hospital. they were protesting, blocked a highway, and a family trying to get to the hospital ended up getting caught up in it. there wasn't an intent to hurt anyone.
as unfortunate as it might be, it isn't really a valid reason criticize the protests.[/QUOTE]
I don't need a valid reason to criticize these protests. These people are causing problems left and right and are fully fucking retarded in general. They have no legit reason to protest other than being cray cray for tray tray.
[QUOTE=Savyetski79;41499359]I don't need a valid reason to criticize these protests. These people are causing problems left and right and are fully fucking retarded in general. They have no legit reason to protest other than being cray cray for tray tray.[/QUOTE]
If Zimmermen had been found guilty at the trial the following protests by his supporters would not have been like this.
These protests are made up of people who just want to steal/break things and uneducated people who don't have any common sense that have been riled up by the news media through months of race baiting.
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