Martin Shkreli Just Offered Kanye West $10 Million To Not Release New Album
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[QUOTE=Talishmar;49729931]Seems obvious by now that he's playing a villain for some purpose. Or just for kicks, possibly.[/QUOTE]
Shkreli is a multimillionaire and very likely has a PR person. Have you considered that he may want us all to feel this way?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49729808]he made sure people who couldn't afford it could get it for free and that people with insurance wouldn't see a significant rise in the price they already pay
also let's not gloss over the fact that the drug has some shitty side effects that the price increase was put in place to help alleviate via r&d[/QUOTE]
but huffpo told me he's a doo-doo head
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;49729484]Accept the money
Release album anyway
Donate money to some charity related to HIV
Get sued a ridiculous amount of money
Reverse-Shkreli him[/QUOTE]
Fixed that for you. Honestly though, if I were Kanye, I might even feel like it's worth it just to piss that smug bastard off.
He'd be getting the last laugh, though.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49729969]i doubt he has a pr person, the dude got booted by the board of directors of his last company because of how stupid he is on twitter[/QUOTE]
Interesting point. He's probably a little stupid.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49729929][url]http://www.turingpharma.com/media/press-release?headline=turing-reduces-cost-of-daraprim%2526reg%253b-(pyrimethamine)%250d%250a[/url]
press release the company put out has a lot of different ways to provide to people who otherwise can't afford it or don't have insurance
it really just comes down to him wanting to shake all the money out of insurance companies[/QUOTE]
Yeah that seems pretty on the level, there's a couple of things I'd probably like clarification on but no one here works for Turing so it's not really possible to get a definitive answer.
The only issue I can think of for the consumer is that everything you need to do in order to be applicable for the reduced price medication could be a very difficult and bureaucratic process, resulting in delays in obtaining the medication/ some people falling through the cracks. Like any system with a lot of bureaucracy, the main currency tends to feel like time.
Like Humanabyss says, the industry as a whole is at fault. In the UK and Malta, healthcare is super affordable, and I've never had to have insurance/apply for any government programs to get affordable medicine. It's a shame that the industry in America is like it is.
[QUOTE=iamgoofball;49729786]please remember that before you think he's "funny"
the disease that the drug he raised the price of treated can kill
it's entirely possible people are going to die because of what he did if they aren't wealthy enough to fund the drug
and he's still acting all smug about it[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the thing the drug treats is caused by shit that'd make you pmuch need medical insurance anyway right? And that there's only like a couple of hundred people that need it in the entire US.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;49729823]why not both?
Shkreli is the embodiment of the stereotypical rich asshole. He even tries to make it so because he has the sanity of an escaped mental asylum patient. He's part of the problem and a good role model for the problem so a lot of people are using this guy as a way to get the message across that this practice is absolute garbage[/QUOTE]
sure but overall, he's a misslead.
he's barely done anything wrong in his management of Turing. And in terms of the impacts he's done to the patients of that drug, it's been pretty minimal from my understanding of the issue.
The real issue is that big pharma does this in silence, not like Shrekli, they do it quietly. He did it loud. He gets all the hatred, and trust me when I say, people have short memories, and once Shrekli's gone, the number of people who will care about the issue is certainly lesser.
Too bad I already have the full album.
"No you don't get it guys he's not an asshole he's just pretending for the greater good"
You know he has assloads of money, if he wanted to do good he'd just do good
Like what does he want us to do lol
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49730256]
The real issue is big pharma[/QUOTE]
No shit, everyone knows this but that doesn't mean we can't call him a dickhead
[QUOTE=lxmach1;49730830]"No you don't get it guys he's not an asshole he's just pretending for the greater good"
You know he has assloads of money, if he wanted to do good he'd just do good
Like what does he want us to do lol
No shit, everyone knows this but that doesn't mean we can't call him a dickhead[/QUOTE]
No shit and I never said you couldn't
I just said there may be better things to do than it but fucking go ahead man
I didn't know saying something was impeding you, or anyone else, from having your voices.
[QUOTE=ColdWave;49730566]Too bad I already have the full album.[/QUOTE]
You have a stream rip, the full album isn't out yet.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49730832]No shit and I never said you couldn't
I just said there may be better things to do than it but fucking go ahead man
I didn't know saying something was impeding you, or anyone else, from having your voices.[/QUOTE]
Like what are you expecting me to do
Are you saying that in the few seconds it took to write "he's a dickhead" I could have cured cancer or something
Basically, what point are you trying to get across by pointing out the obvious?
Because just from the way you said it, all you're really getting across is "YOU guys can call him a dickhead, but I know the real issues!"
[QUOTE=lxmach1;49730837]Like what are you expecting me to do
Are you saying that in the few seconds it took to write "he's a dickhead" I could have cured cancer or something
Basically, what point are you trying to get across by pointing out the obvious?[/QUOTE]
Is it obvious that Shrekli's just a mislead when he's really the only person who's taking flack for things that the pharma industry does regularly? Making a spectacle out of his actions is affecting the pharma industry how exactly?
I'm not sure what you think I expect.
I see far too much vitirol thrown at one guy rather than the real problem. So what's your issue with me? Should I not say that? Is that a problem?
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
lol i've fucking called him a dickhead and worse before. god damn dude
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
Like yes, there ARE more important issues than one man. Are you mad that I said that and that you find it so obvious no one should ever say that?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49730845]Is it obvious that Shrekli's just a mislead when he's really the only person who's taking flack for things that the pharma industry does regularly? Making a spectacle out of his actions is affecting the pharma industry how exactly?
I'm not sure what you think I expect.
I see far too much vitirol thrown at one guy rather than the real problem. So what's your issue with me? Should I not say that? Is that a problem?[/QUOTE]
It just seems like you're making these stunts out to be some kind of big "gotcha!" when all anybody's doing is just posting "yeah this guy's a dick". I mean, there's a lot of people calling him a dick and maybe a lot of people don't know the real issue but at least on Facepunch, it seems like you're preaching to the choir except instead of preaching you're just going "guys you don't understand". It's not the first time you've posted these exact same posts, so I'm just saying at what point should you take a step back and think "maybe everybody here already knows the real problem"?
Maybe this kind of conversation is better suited for PM.
[QUOTE=lxmach1;49730872]It just seems like you're making these stunts out to be some kind of big "gotcha!" when all anybody's doing is just posting "yeah this guy's a dick". I mean, there's a lot of people calling him a dick and maybe a lot of people don't know the real issue but at least on Facepunch, it seems like you're preaching to the choir except instead of preaching you're just going "guys you don't understand". It's not the first time you've posted these exact same posts, so I'm just saying at what point should you take a step back and think "maybe everybody here already knows the real problem"?
Maybe this kind of conversation is better suited for PM.[/QUOTE]
If people keep posting shrekli articles and lapping them up rather than posting articles about how pharma is essentially doing the same with no negative publicity than I won't say anything.
Plenty of people seem to see Shrekli as the worst offender. He isn't. If that's obvious to everyone and I don't have to say a word, I guess that sucks because I did say words. Oh well. Now you're all doomed to have read some words you already agreed with.
I speak my mind on a forum. I'm not sure what else we're supposed to do here.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49730897]
I speak my mind on a forum. I'm not sure what else we're supposed to do here.[/QUOTE]
Well I mean if you put it that way I guess I can't oppose that :v:
Please tell me he didn't take the deal because it's already been a whole day and I still haven't gotten my album.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49730897]
I speak my mind on a forum. I'm not sure what else we're supposed to do here.[/QUOTE]
No you don't understand only professionals are allowed to have opinions now
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49731289]Please tell me he didn't take the deal because it's already been a whole day and I still haven't gotten my album.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/698395090117644288[/url]
Shkreli being the scapegoat of hate partially makes sense because I can't really name off a lot of medications and I sure as hell can't name any of the pharmaceutical companies off the top of my head. It falls apart, however, when you consider that politicians, lobbyists, and outspoken advocates can and will.
I'm not sure the hypothetical distraction is really having any positive effects when the lack of its existence wouldn't really change the public's involvement anyway, and might even inspire people to take a stand against this awful industry. If that is Shkreli's goal, then I don't know if it's a worthwhile venture.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49729460]America seems to love assholes that they theorize have a heart of gold. Donald Trump, Martin Skreli, etc.[/QUOTE]
But I'm not an American, and I'm also inclined to believe he isn't jetblack by heart.
Although it would be nice to hear some more positive news from Shkreli, like how's the development of new helpful drugs is coming along etc.?
And something tells me that 10 million isn't that much to him, or to the prescription drug business in general.
Has he broken any laws to get where he is?
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;49729484]Accept the money
Release album anyway
Donate money to some charity related to HIV
Reverse-Shkreli him[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DarklytheGreat;49727194]i wanna see kanye take the money and still release the album[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49727197]I want to see Kayne take the money and donate it all to charities while releasing the album as well.[/QUOTE]
Exactly this:
[QUOTE=matt000024;49728158]He'd get his ass sued so hard from that.[/QUOTE]
Shkreli didn't get as rich as he did by doing deals with handshakes. Guaranteed he'd hand Kanye a 10-page contract that he'd have to sign in four places, and if one track got released to the public in a way that wasn't specifically spelled out in that contract, Skhreli is exactly the kind of smug narcissistic cockwad who'd take Kanye to court for breach of contract and would probably ask for way more than $10mil in damages and he'd win, too (although it'd be up to the judge to decide what he gets).
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49736814][media]https://twitter.com/MartinShkreli/status/698687034085502976[/media][/QUOTE]
The smug has [I]permanently etched into his face[/I].
Most Punchable Face of the Year
sometimes it all works out
i hope whoever just got 15 mil in bitcoin sits on them for a minute because it's steadily going up!
The man's a troll. He's probably laughing his ass off about all this.
[QUOTE=Swiket;49737462]The man's a troll. He's probably laughing his ass off about all this.[/QUOTE]
This is probably true but I want to believe it's really happening for the schadenfreude.
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