Video of Miley Cyrus Smoking Salvia Leaked - Polidicks

That seemed more like marijuana. Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.

[QUOTE=5killer;26614304]That seemed more like marijuana. Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.[/QUOTE] Maybe they called it salvia for damage control.

[QUOTE=5killer;26614304]That seemed more like marijuana. Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.[/QUOTE] I think that video just showed her first hit. I think it takes a bit longer than 2 minutes to take effect.

She sucks at taking hits

[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26603343][url=http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/10/miley-cyrus-video-bong-hit-smoking-salvia-herb-pyschedelic-birthday-party-hannah-montana/]Source and Video.[/url] Watch it, just watch it... Fuck her. Now people are screaming that Salvia needs to be illegal. That didn't even look remotely like a Salvia trip, or any kind of trip to be honest, she just looks fucking brain-dead.[/QUOTE] Salvia is a bit like that though for some people.. especially first times. My first time, on one cone, i was visiting thousands of different worlds where the fundamental laws of physics were turned on their head. Until i literally walked out of my mind and into reality. My friend smoked 3 cones of it and got nothing and my other friend smoked one and was just staring into space drooling for 10 minutes [editline]11th December 2010[/editline] Also, the fact that they were telling her to hold it in for as long as possible

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26614627]I think that video just showed her first hit. I think it takes a bit longer than 2 minutes to take effect.[/QUOTE] No its pretty much right after exhale. The problem is she didn't know how to take hit so she didn't have enough to warrant any weird shit.

[QUOTE=5killer;26614304]That seemed more like marijuana. Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.[/QUOTE] I have a feeling you didn't watch the video all the way.

Salvia is supposed to taste terrible. A common saying is "hold the hit until your vision begins to vibrate". A torch lighter will work better for salvia because the active chemical needs a higher temperature to vaporize. Ok done with random info. [QUOTE=5killer;26614304]Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.[/QUOTE] It can do that to people, but many people don't experience this. I've seen some friends do salvia and they've just space out for a few minutes and giggled a bit. A lot of people don't have a big reaction like you see in a lot of online videos.

:10bux: says that she'll have done cocaine on video by her 19th birthday.

[QUOTE=5killer;26614304]That seemed more like marijuana. Salvia makes you talk strange and do weird shit.[/QUOTE] It might just be really shitty salvia. If you know about the extraction process you know what I mean. [editline]10th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=fenwick;26615767]:10bux: says that she'll have done cocaine on video by her 19th birthday.[/QUOTE] I raise you :10bux: on the bet that she's already done tons.

[QUOTE=TailsPrower;26603564]The problem is millions of parents will look at this and scream it's horrible and make Salvia illegal, even though it's as harmless as Marijuana. To be fair though, this was a private video and it wasn't meant to influence anyone.[/QUOTE] WHy does everyone say weed is harmless? All drugs are potentially dangerous depending on several variables such as; 1) The user, 2) The concentration/frequency of use 3) It's origins. Those are three things I can think of on the top of my head and I'm sure there are others too. Weed for example is dangerous in a sense that it alters judgement. Why is it that 90% of pot smokers don't give a shit about anything? Enjoy sitting on their asses all day playing video games, listening to music and vegitating. Every pot smoker I've known have gone from smart A grade students to hooligans. I've seen pot smokers go from one drug to a more dangerous drug just because they like to feel the "buzz" and the old stuff just doesn't do it anymore. One thing leads to another and you got yourself a classic case of low life. Salvia I don't know much about to be honest, I've only witnessed someone do it once and they didn't have that much of a trip anyways. So as far as I know it's not as dangerous, especially as the effects don't last long at all. However with it being psychadelic I can't help but wonder how it affects the brain. In short, pot smokers blindly defend pot even though it's easy to get despite it's illegal status anyway so anyones argument is invalid. And Salvia is just retarded anyways.

She was definitely doing weed. It makes sense though since she spent her whole childhood being Disney's puppet. She never got the chance to be a regular teenager and experiment with drugs which is why she's doing it now that she's 18. Better late than never I guess.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26616386]WHy does everyone say weed is harmless? All drugs are potentially dangerous depending on several variables such as; 1) The user, 2) The concentration/frequency of use 3) It's origins. Those are three things I can think of on the top of my head and I'm sure there are others too. Weed for example is dangerous in a sense that it alters judgement. Why is it that 90% of pot smokers don't give a shit about anything? Enjoy sitting on their asses all day playing video games, listening to music and vegitating. Every pot smoker I've known have gone from smart A grade students to hooligans. I've seen pot smokers go from one drug to a more dangerous drug just because they like to feel the "buzz" and the old stuff just doesn't do it anymore. One thing leads to another and you got yourself a classic case of low life. Salvia I don't know much about to be honest, I've only witnessed someone do it once and they didn't have that much of a trip anyways. So as far as I know it's not as dangerous, especially as the effects don't last long at all. However with it being psychadelic I can't help but wonder how it affects the brain. In short, pot smokers blindly defend pot even though it's easy to get despite it's illegal status anyway so anyones argument is invalid. And Salvia is just retarded anyways.[/QUOTE]It's not the weed's fault for making you stupid, it's the user's lack of self-control that messes up lives

[QUOTE=Shustriy;26616577]It's not the weed's fault for making you stupid, it's the user's lack of self-control that messes up lives[/QUOTE] Yes I pointed that out to be one of the reasons it's bad for you as "1) The user". Irresponsibility is the biggest danger with drugs.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26616386]WHy does everyone say weed is harmless? All drugs are potentially dangerous depending on several variables such as; 1) The user, 2) The concentration/frequency of use 3) It's origins. Those are three things I can think of on the top of my head and I'm sure there are others too. Weed for example is dangerous in a sense that it alters judgement. Why is it that 90% of pot smokers don't give a shit about anything? Enjoy sitting on their asses all day playing video games, listening to music and vegitating. Every pot smoker I've known have gone from smart A grade students to hooligans. I've seen pot smokers go from one drug to a more dangerous drug just because they like to feel the "buzz" and the old stuff just doesn't do it anymore. One thing leads to another and you got yourself a classic case of low life. Salvia I don't know much about to be honest, I've only witnessed someone do it once and they didn't have that much of a trip anyways. So as far as I know it's not as dangerous, especially as the effects don't last long at all. However with it being psychadelic I can't help but wonder how it affects the brain. In short, pot smokers blindly defend pot even though it's easy to get despite it's illegal status anyway so anyones argument is invalid. And Salvia is just retarded anyways.[/QUOTE] You can die from drinking too much water. Ban water.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26616732]You can die from drinking too much water. Ban water.[/QUOTE] Again. Irresponsibility. God, does no one fucking read anymore or do you just look for butt-hurt anti-anything and start flippin out on them?

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26616732]You can die from drinking too much water. Ban water.[/QUOTE] It also has a scary chemical name (dihydrogen monoxide).

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26616832]Again. Irresponsibility. God, does no one fucking read anymore or do you just look for butt-hurt anti-anything and start flippin out on them?[/QUOTE] I'm not the one generalizing weed smokers. You're saying weed is bad because a handful of people misuse it, and then you say that that handful of users make up 90% of weed smokers. Most people who smoke weed aren't obvious about it.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26616889]I'm not the one generalizing weed smokers. You're saying weed is bad because a handful of people misuse it, and then you say that that handful of users make up 90% of weed smokers. Most people who smoke weed aren't obvious about it.[/QUOTE] I also made it clear that the generalization was based on personal experiences from people I know and have met. Your nit picking.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26616945]I also made it clear that the generalization was based on personal experiences from people I know and have met. Your nit picking.[/QUOTE] So essentially your argument is meaningless.

[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;26603638]You'd think after the whole Michael Phelps incident celebrities with a lot of "kid influence" would have a no fucking phones up when I'm hitting a bong rule. Or at least wear a clever disguise every time they decided to smoke weed so there's at least room to deny it.[/QUOTE] Because Miley Cyrus is a master of disguise. [media]http://latesttvepisode.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hannah_montana-5324.jpg[/media] :v: Sorry, no.

[quote=Jurikuer;26616386]WHy does everyone say weed is harmless? All drugs are potentially dangerous depending on several variables such as; 1) The user, 2) The concentration/frequency of use 3) It's origins. Those are three things I can think of on the top of my head and I'm sure there are others too...[/quote] You're essentially stating nothing in the first paragraph. A greater amount of the active chemicals in marijuana are not any more dangerous than a moderate amount. You cannot overdose. If you want to argue that marijuana use can be dangerous if the wrong person uses it then you might as well argue that any house hold item is dangerous if certain people use it. There are links to alcohol causing aggression, but there hasn't been any link to marijuana and aggression. You can't at all argue a loss of control because this does not happen under use of marijuana, it does with alcohol, but not with marijuana. Your sense of judgement is likely to be more altered when you're on your period than when on marijuana. This is not at all to say that it cannot alter your judgement in bad ways, but it is more to say that the potential effects the everyday life factors such as getting road rage are more likely to have a prominent effect. To go beyond that, when people get really high they usually aren't in a environment where a clear sense of judgement would be needed. I personally disagree against driving high, but the studies show that people driving high are typically safer. The rest of the second paragraph is a personal account about your dislike for stoners and how you believe that the drug changed them. Then you of course go onto discuss the downhill slope which has been shown not to exist in many studies. Does not mean that it doesn't occur, but it does mean that the drug has little or nothing to do with it. My own opinion is that marijuana does affect some people badly and it is the person's responsibility to use it correctly. I'd say the same is true of alcohol. Salvia will make you trip balls if you have a strong dose and proper equipment. Try disconnecting yourself a bit with the whole drug argument. Maybe you can't imagine the point of doing drugs, but is it understandable as to why other people enjoy doing them? You don't at all have to try them to have a proper opinion on them, but provided that many people enjoy using drugs and that using them responsibly has no real consequences, do you think that people should have the right to use them if they want? I believe that a person should have a right to do whatever drugs they want. I believe that far more good could come from a legalization of all drugs than bad. But below that, the drugs that offer little consequence like salvia, marijuana, and alcohol make sense to have legal because of their lower potential for bad effects with proper use.

[QUOTE=lead_farmer;26603383]I wanna see a video of her smoking something else. :q:[/QUOTE] cigarettes

[QUOTE=Doriol;26616993]So essentially your argument is meaningless.[/QUOTE] My argument is meaningful if your open minded. Clearly you're not. Allow me to explain further. Of all the people I know, not met but actually know, there are 40+ pot smokers. Of these pot smokers probably about 30 of them don't do anything with their lives. Just sit around smoke weed "eryday". The other 10 smoke weed, but not religiously. They have lives and actually don't smoke that often. Of the 30 who do, 5 of them have screwed me over and taken advantage of me. One stole my guitar tuner and cd player. No biggy, they're cheap. 2 owe me 1400 in rent money that I'll never see because they got us evicted. And 10 all around turned their backs on me when they no longer needed me to buy them cigarettes or beer. They were only a couple years younger than me so I figured fuck it. The fact still remains. In my experience, pot smokers use their friends until they don't need them anymore, eventually turn to worse drugs, have no lives what so ever, and can't be trusted worth shit. Because of these people I no longer trust potheads, no longer respect potheads, and no longer support their own personal choice to abuse their body and mind the way they see fit. I stay clear from them because they do nothing but drag me down.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;26616732]You can die from drinking too much water. Ban water.[/QUOTE] That's called drowning, and yes we do take measures to keep people from doing that. As well, water does not affect you like weed or salvia. Water is also a necessity for life. I give you a 3/10 nice try but not enough See me after class

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26617088]My argument is meaningful if your open minded. Clearly you're not.[/QUOTE] oh okay

[QUOTE=Pepin;26617051]There are links to alcohol causing aggression, but there hasn't been any link to marijuana and aggression.[/QUOTE] Let me stop you there. My room mate, the one who owes me 1400 in rent. He had to go 5 days without pot. In those 5 days he became overly aggresive to anyone and everyone including his girlfriend. Don't tell me there are no links to aggression. Pot is just as addicting as the next drug with the same withdrawl effects.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26617113]Let me stop you there. My room mate, the one who owes me 1400 in rent. He had to go 5 days without pot. In those 5 days he became overly aggresive to anyone and everyone including his girlfriend. Don't tell me there are no links to aggression. Pot is just as addicting as the next drug with the same withdrawl effects.[/QUOTE] Let me stop you there. Please take my ignorant anecdotal evidence seriously.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26617088]My argument is meaningful if your open minded.[/QUOTE] Because clearly, anecdotal and statistically useless information is extremely meaningful. And clearly, using it as a sweeping generalization of all areas and demographics is very open-minded. To quote Willy Wonka, You have failed. You get nothing.

[QUOTE=Jurikuer;26617113]Let me stop you there. My room mate, the one who owes me 1400 in rent. He had to go 5 days without pot. In those 5 days he became overly aggresive to anyone and everyone including his girlfriend. Don't tell me there are no links to aggression. Pot is just as addicting as the next drug with the same withdrawl effects.[/QUOTE] Do you really have to rely on these personal stories? Telling a personal story is the worst way to make an argument for many many different reasons. I'm not telling you that there is no link between aggression, the scientists that conduct these studies are. But yes you are correct in that a symptom from marijuana withdrawal is increased aggression, but backing that up with a personal story isn't a way to make an argument. My argument prior was that being under the influence isn't at all going to escalate your aggression like it does with alcohol.