California schoolchidren now need to take vaccinations
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[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]You just proved my point. Weakened doesnt mean safe. The talking point that is the Immune Compromise people is a complete farse these people can get a staph infection from swimming in a lake and die. So to say we are protecting them is loonacy.
And for fuck sake have you even looked at the history books? We can contribute more to hygiene, improved diets, and antibiotics than we can to the actual outcome from vaccines. Say you lived in the sixties and contracted measles. You would pull through unless you were very young, immunocompromised, or old and even then you would most likely live, in 1968 there were around 10,000 cases, only 1% died. It was most likely contributed to secondary infections were the real reason why people were dying. Common opportunistic bacteria to cause complications were streptococcus, pneumococcus and H. influenzae. Everyone who is clamoring for all this mandatory vaccine bullshit is living in 60's polio and measles hysteria. I get it you're scared. You should be thankful we don't live in a 3rd world hell hole that has no concept of hygiene, medicine, or even the viruses themselves (ebola anyone?). Everyone needs to stop fear mongering over this. And to top it all off the people who spread measles in disneyland are all completely fine now.
Look Im all for vaccines but not this way. Not funded by special interest groups, not controlled by giant pharmaceutical companies and not filled with dangerous adjuvants.
Aluminum:
Aluminum is present in many things around us. It’s in food, air, water, and soil and is said to be harmless when swallowed because it doesn’t absorb into the body when consumed. Aluminum is put into vaccines as an adjuvant to help them “work better” or to “enhance” them. So what is the concern about injecting aluminum into the blood stream?
According to the FDA:
“Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration [this means injected into the body] if kidney function is impaired . . . Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity [for a tiny newborn, this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 micrograms, and for an adult it would be about 350 micrograms]. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document NDA 19-626/S-019, Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for Dextrose Injections.]
And also:
“Aluminum content in parenteral drug products could result in a toxic accumulation of aluminum in individuals receiving TPN therapy. Research indicates that neonates [newborns] and patient populations with impaired kidney function may be at high risk of exposure to unsafe amounts of aluminum. Studies show that aluminum may accumulate in the bone, urine, and plasma of infants receiving TPN. Many drug products used in parenteral therapy [injections] may contain levels of aluminum sufficiently high to cause clinical manifestations [symptoms] . . . parenteral aluminum bypasses the protective mechanism of the GI tract and aluminum circulates and is deposited in human tissues. Aluminum toxicity is difficult to identify in infants because few reliable techniques are available to evaluate bone metabolism in . . . infants . . . Although aluminum toxicity is not commonly detected clinically, it can be serious in selected patient populations, such as neonates [newborns], and may be more common than is recognized.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document 02N-0496, Aluminum in Large and Small Volume Parenterals Used in Total Parenteral Nutrition. Available online at: [url]http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/oc0367.pdf][/url]
So basically from those documents we learn that if a premature baby receives more than 10 mcg of aluminum in an IV, it can accumulate in their bones and brain, and can be toxic.
The FDA maximum requirements for aluminum received in an IV is 25 mcg per day. The suggested aluminum per kg of weight to give to a person is up to 5mcg. (so a 5 pounds baby should get no more than 11mcg of aluminum.) Anything that has more than 25 mcg of aluminum is *supposed* to have a label that says:
WARNING: This product contains aluminum that may be toxic. Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration if kidney function is impaired. Premature neonates are particularly at risk because their kidneys are immature, and they require large amounts of calcium and phosphate solutions, which contain aluminum.
Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates, who receive parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 [micro]g/kg/day accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration. [[url]http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323][/url]
— Vaccines, for some reason, are not required to have this label and also are not required to follow the maximum dosage of 25 mcg.
So doing some math — the following are examples of weight with their corresponding maximum levels of aluminum, per the FDA:
8 pound, healthy baby: 18.16 mcg of aluminum
15 pound, healthy baby: 34.05 mcg of aluminum
30 pound, healthy toddler: 68.1 mcg of aluminum
50 pound, healthy child: 113 mcg of aluminum
150 pound adult: 340.5 mcg of aluminum
350 pound adult: 794.5 mcg of aluminum
So how much aluminum is in the vaccines that are routinely given to children?
Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 mcg per shot
Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 mcg
Pneumococcus – 125 mcg
Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
HPV – 225 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 mcg
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
My best friend has some serious kidney damage from aluminum toxicity from vaccines I KNOW FIRST HAND these results and mandatory vaccination is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
that is not first hand :)
[QUOTE=Megadave;48057643]If this guy doesn't strike you as some authoritarian asshole, I don't know what will.[/QUOTE]
If applied correctly it is very true. It's just very hard to apply correctly
[editline]26th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]My best friend has some serious kidney damage from aluminum toxicity from vaccines I KNOW FIRST HAND these results and mandatory vaccination is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
"one guy had it rough so all vaccines are terrible"
[QUOTE=da space core;48057649]you know, you are right about the pharmaceutical industry and how corrupt it is. However, their corruption lie within narcotics and other highly expensive drugs that people take daily. its a billion dollar business that does have problems.
But those big companies dont care much about vaccines, which are cheap (or out right free) and are taken every few years. Its like a drop in the ocean.
Perhaps if you read things past the sensationalist headline, you would know this.[/QUOTE]
Thats horrible untrue they make a serious killing on everything they make. So you are telling me that a multi-billion dollar corporation is just turning out these vaccines for nothing? I did some research and they made around 24 Billion on vaccines in 2013 apparently that's only 1.83% of their yearly profits but still thats hardly a drop in the ocean.
im sure that when we'll all be vaccinated they're going to go "so now pay us money or we will remotely activate the viruses in your vaccines and you will all die"
you really discovered their primary goal
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;48057977]If applied correctly it is very true. It's just very hard to apply correctly
[editline]26th June 2015[/editline]
"one guy had it rough so all vaccines are terrible"[/QUOTE]
This isnt just 'one guy' leave it to the wolves of FP to point out the smallest fallacies in anything that may disagree with their opinion.
texas has had this for at least 2 decades now
i remember taking a vaccine years ago when the swine flu was rampant and it just made it worse
i did not want to get out of bed at all and i'm not the type of person who just gives up when just a little sick,
i'm not against them but i think they can have really bad effects.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]You just proved my point. Weakened doesnt mean safe. The talking point that is the Immune Compromise people is a complete farse these people can get a staph infection from swimming in a lake and die. So to say we are protecting them is loonacy.
And for fuck sake have you even looked at the history books? We can contribute more to hygiene, improved diets, and antibiotics than we can to the actual outcome from vaccines. Say you lived in the sixties and contracted measles. You would pull through unless you were very young, immunocompromised, or old and even then you would most likely live, in 1968 there were around 10,000 cases, only 1% died. It was most likely contributed to secondary infections were the real reason why people were dying. Common opportunistic bacteria to cause complications were streptococcus, pneumococcus and H. influenzae. Everyone who is clamoring for all this mandatory vaccine bullshit is living in 60's polio and measles hysteria. I get it you're scared. You should be thankful we don't live in a 3rd world hell hole that has no concept of hygiene, medicine, or even the viruses themselves (ebola anyone?). Everyone needs to stop fear mongering over this. And to top it all off the people who spread measles in disneyland are all completely fine now.
Look Im all for vaccines but not this way. Not funded by special interest groups, not controlled by giant pharmaceutical companies and not filled with dangerous adjuvants.
Aluminum:
Aluminum is present in many things around us. It’s in food, air, water, and soil and is said to be harmless when swallowed because it doesn’t absorb into the body when consumed. Aluminum is put into vaccines as an adjuvant to help them “work better” or to “enhance” them. So what is the concern about injecting aluminum into the blood stream?
According to the FDA:
“Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration [this means injected into the body] if kidney function is impaired . . . Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity [for a tiny newborn, this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 micrograms, and for an adult it would be about 350 micrograms]. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document NDA 19-626/S-019, Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for Dextrose Injections.]
And also:
“Aluminum content in parenteral drug products could result in a toxic accumulation of aluminum in individuals receiving TPN therapy. Research indicates that neonates [newborns] and patient populations with impaired kidney function may be at high risk of exposure to unsafe amounts of aluminum. Studies show that aluminum may accumulate in the bone, urine, and plasma of infants receiving TPN. Many drug products used in parenteral therapy [injections] may contain levels of aluminum sufficiently high to cause clinical manifestations [symptoms] . . . parenteral aluminum bypasses the protective mechanism of the GI tract and aluminum circulates and is deposited in human tissues. Aluminum toxicity is difficult to identify in infants because few reliable techniques are available to evaluate bone metabolism in . . . infants . . . Although aluminum toxicity is not commonly detected clinically, it can be serious in selected patient populations, such as neonates [newborns], and may be more common than is recognized.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document 02N-0496, Aluminum in Large and Small Volume Parenterals Used in Total Parenteral Nutrition. Available online at: [url]http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/oc0367.pdf][/url]
So basically from those documents we learn that if a premature baby receives more than 10 mcg of aluminum in an IV, it can accumulate in their bones and brain, and can be toxic.
The FDA maximum requirements for aluminum received in an IV is 25 mcg per day. The suggested aluminum per kg of weight to give to a person is up to 5mcg. (so a 5 pounds baby should get no more than 11mcg of aluminum.) Anything that has more than 25 mcg of aluminum is *supposed* to have a label that says:
WARNING: This product contains aluminum that may be toxic. Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration if kidney function is impaired. Premature neonates are particularly at risk because their kidneys are immature, and they require large amounts of calcium and phosphate solutions, which contain aluminum.
Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates, who receive parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 [micro]g/kg/day accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration. [[url]http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323][/url]
— Vaccines, for some reason, are not required to have this label and also are not required to follow the maximum dosage of 25 mcg.
So doing some math — the following are examples of weight with their corresponding maximum levels of aluminum, per the FDA:
8 pound, healthy baby: 18.16 mcg of aluminum
15 pound, healthy baby: 34.05 mcg of aluminum
30 pound, healthy toddler: 68.1 mcg of aluminum
50 pound, healthy child: 113 mcg of aluminum
150 pound adult: 340.5 mcg of aluminum
350 pound adult: 794.5 mcg of aluminum
So how much aluminum is in the vaccines that are routinely given to children?
Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 mcg per shot
Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 mcg
Pneumococcus – 125 mcg
Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
HPV – 225 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 mcg
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
My best friend has some serious kidney damage from aluminum toxicity from vaccines I KNOW FIRST HAND these results and mandatory vaccination is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
What the hell is this tripe?
goodness, why does every little fact require so much argument? I could put up an article here on why drinking urine is bad and there will be people who call it a new brand of lemonade.
now, since I dont want to waste much time, allow me to skip your hyperbole and right to your pathetic argument.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]
— Vaccines, for some reason, are not required to have this label and also are not required to follow the maximum dosage of 25 mcg.
So doing some math — the following are examples of weight with their corresponding maximum levels of aluminum, per the FDA:
8 pound, healthy baby: 18.16 mcg of aluminum
15 pound, healthy baby: 34.05 mcg of aluminum
30 pound, healthy toddler: 68.1 mcg of aluminum
50 pound, healthy child: 113 mcg of aluminum
150 pound adult: 340.5 mcg of aluminum
350 pound adult: 794.5 mcg of aluminum
So how much aluminum is in the vaccines that are routinely given to children?
Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 mcg per shot
Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 mcg
Pneumococcus – 125 mcg
Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
HPV – 225 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 mcg
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
My best friend has some serious kidney damage from aluminum toxicity from vaccines I KNOW FIRST HAND these results and mandatory vaccination is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
let me teach you chem 101. elements mixed into a compound do not retain the same properties as their elemental form.
For example. Chlorine on its own is a highly deadly gas thats used in chemical weapons. Yet we consume tons of Chlorine a day. How? well, Chlorine can bind to sodium, which forms sodium chloride, or table salt. I shouldn't need to tell you that salt kills you (unless you consume an unhealthy amount of salt).
Florine, the element that can strip noble gases of their electrons, which is extraordinarily dangerous and aggressively reacts in contact with almost anything. It kills rapidly, yet we use it daily in our toothpaste in the compounds such as NaF.
the aluminum you reference to is also in compounds, we arent injecting liquid metal for goodness sake. I suggest you educate yourself a bit more before continue arguing this, since you will lose if you take the side with [B]no actual evidence[/B]
Also, since you used the FDA as a source, it means you find them to be a credible source. That's good, because they themselves disproved your theory
[url]http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/ScienceResearch/ucm284520.htm[/url]
I initially misread the title as "California schoolchildren now need to take vacations" and thought the California schools were so ass-backwards that they were denying kids a bunch of days off. :v:
ydo know that some people are allergic to vaccines due to how theyre made, right?
[QUOTE=Map in a box;48058710]ydo know that some people are allergic to vaccines due to how theyre made, right?[/QUOTE]
it was in the bill.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]You just proved my point. Weakened doesnt mean safe. The talking point that is the Immune Compromise people is a complete farse these people can get a staph infection from swimming in a lake and die. So to say we are protecting them is loonacy.
And for fuck sake have you even looked at the history books? We can contribute more to hygiene, improved diets, and antibiotics than we can to the actual outcome from vaccines. Say you lived in the sixties and contracted measles. You would pull through unless you were very young, immunocompromised, or old and even then you would most likely live, in 1968 there were around 10,000 cases, only 1% died. It was most likely contributed to secondary infections were the real reason why people were dying. Common opportunistic bacteria to cause complications were streptococcus, pneumococcus and H. influenzae. Everyone who is clamoring for all this mandatory vaccine bullshit is living in 60's polio and measles hysteria. I get it you're scared. You should be thankful we don't live in a 3rd world hell hole that has no concept of hygiene, medicine, or even the viruses themselves (ebola anyone?). Everyone needs to stop fear mongering over this. And to top it all off the people who spread measles in disneyland are all completely fine now.
Look Im all for vaccines but not this way. Not funded by special interest groups, not controlled by giant pharmaceutical companies and not filled with dangerous adjuvants.
Aluminum:
Aluminum is present in many things around us. It’s in food, air, water, and soil and is said to be harmless when swallowed because it doesn’t absorb into the body when consumed. Aluminum is put into vaccines as an adjuvant to help them “work better” or to “enhance” them. So what is the concern about injecting aluminum into the blood stream?
According to the FDA:
“Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration [this means injected into the body] if kidney function is impaired . . . Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity [for a tiny newborn, this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 micrograms, and for an adult it would be about 350 micrograms]. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document NDA 19-626/S-019, Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for Dextrose Injections.]
And also:
“Aluminum content in parenteral drug products could result in a toxic accumulation of aluminum in individuals receiving TPN therapy. Research indicates that neonates [newborns] and patient populations with impaired kidney function may be at high risk of exposure to unsafe amounts of aluminum. Studies show that aluminum may accumulate in the bone, urine, and plasma of infants receiving TPN. Many drug products used in parenteral therapy [injections] may contain levels of aluminum sufficiently high to cause clinical manifestations [symptoms] . . . parenteral aluminum bypasses the protective mechanism of the GI tract and aluminum circulates and is deposited in human tissues. Aluminum toxicity is difficult to identify in infants because few reliable techniques are available to evaluate bone metabolism in . . . infants . . . Although aluminum toxicity is not commonly detected clinically, it can be serious in selected patient populations, such as neonates [newborns], and may be more common than is recognized.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document 02N-0496, Aluminum in Large and Small Volume Parenterals Used in Total Parenteral Nutrition. Available online at: [url]http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/oc0367.pdf][/url]
So basically from those documents we learn that if a premature baby receives more than 10 mcg of aluminum in an IV, it can accumulate in their bones and brain, and can be toxic.
The FDA maximum requirements for aluminum received in an IV is 25 mcg per day. The suggested aluminum per kg of weight to give to a person is up to 5mcg. (so a 5 pounds baby should get no more than 11mcg of aluminum.) Anything that has more than 25 mcg of aluminum is *supposed* to have a label that says:
WARNING: This product contains aluminum that may be toxic. Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration if kidney function is impaired. Premature neonates are particularly at risk because their kidneys are immature, and they require large amounts of calcium and phosphate solutions, which contain aluminum.
Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates, who receive parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 [micro]g/kg/day accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration. [[url]http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323][/url]
— Vaccines, for some reason, are not required to have this label and also are not required to follow the maximum dosage of 25 mcg.
So doing some math — the following are examples of weight with their corresponding maximum levels of aluminum, per the FDA:
8 pound, healthy baby: 18.16 mcg of aluminum
15 pound, healthy baby: 34.05 mcg of aluminum
30 pound, healthy toddler: 68.1 mcg of aluminum
50 pound, healthy child: 113 mcg of aluminum
150 pound adult: 340.5 mcg of aluminum
350 pound adult: 794.5 mcg of aluminum
So how much aluminum is in the vaccines that are routinely given to children?
Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 mcg per shot
Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 mcg
Pneumococcus – 125 mcg
Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
HPV – 225 mcg
Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 mcg
Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 mcg
At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.
My best friend has some serious kidney damage from aluminum toxicity from vaccines I KNOW FIRST HAND these results and mandatory vaccination is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
I like how your evidence basically says your wrong and you use another persons ailments as "first hand" knowledge, when you can only have "first hand" knowledge by actually having something happen to you.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057444]Im just curious because everyone seems to blindly follow what their 'government' tells them, have any of you even read the inserts that come with vaccine boxes? No? Didnt think so. If these are so safe then why do they plainly state that vaccine recipients can actually carry the disease around and infect people that have all these compromised immune systems everyone is so worried about. Just the Adjuvants alone should raise a big red flag.
He sounds like a fucking SS officer that's telling you everything will be fine after the Zyklon B shot.
Look at all those buzzwords I'm really shocked that basically everyone on FP has no concept of even questioning these people, "FEDERAL HEALTH AGENCIES RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY" HMM MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. I mean come on us that noodle and see past the big money lies.[/QUOTE]
You never fail to live up to your user name.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;48058710]ydo know that some people are allergic to vaccines due to how theyre made, right?[/QUOTE]
hence that is what the medical exemption is for. This law merely states that "religious" or "philosophical" exceptions from vaccinations are now invalid.
If you read literally the first sentence of the article you would know this
[QUOTE]ACRAMENTO, Calif. — Schoolchildren in California would be required to be vaccinated unless there is a medical reason not to do so[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about the bill, I was talking about the people saying that everyone should be vaccined.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;48060138]I wasn't talking about the bill, I was talking about the people saying that everyone should be vaccined.[/QUOTE]
i am fairly certain that most people who say that have a little "*except those medically unable" appended on it without needing to state it because that is just a no shit kind of thing
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057925]Bullshit about aluminium[/QUOTE]
I don't know where you got your numbers from but they're obviously bullshit. Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the Earth's crust. Fresh vegetables contain anywhere between 0 to 7 micrograms of aluminium per gram, seafood even more. The average human will consume between 5-10 mg of aluminium a day. Do you seriously think that microgram quantities of aluminium are going to cause problems in humans?
[editline]27th June 2015[/editline]
I should also point out that cannabis contains roughly 0.4% aluminium by weight, so a typical joint will contain roughly 2 mg of aluminium.
I may not like my shots; but I still get them; where do people get the idea that not getting vaccinated is okay?!
[QUOTE=spoder55;48055686]Didn't the "doctor" who published the study that claimed Autism is linked to vaccination get his Medical licence revoked?[/QUOTE]
The entire study has so many flaws in it, including having a tiny sample group and picking kids which were starting to develop autism like traits. It was a bullshit study which some idiots seem to believe for whatever reasons.
I honestly believe that anti-vaccers are worst than Westboro Church with how much harm they may have/potentially cause.
Anyone who is against vaccinations is simply too stupid to be a parent.
For the child's safety, and the safety of others, they should be arrested, and the children put up for adoption.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48058216]This isnt just 'one guy' [B]leave it to the wolves of FP[/B] to point out the smallest fallacies in anything that may disagree with their opinion.[/QUOTE]
Get a load of this guy.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057444]
He sounds like a fucking SS officer that's telling you everything will be fine after the Zyklon B shot.
Look at all those buzzwords I'm really shocked that basically everyone on FP has no concept of even questioning these people, "FEDERAL HEALTH AGENCIES RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY" HMM MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. I mean come on us that noodle and see past the big money lies.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this is why we need a megathread for this. FP prides itself on cynicism but they won't dare question the idea of increasingly mandatory needles in your body at increasingly young ages? No red flags going off at all? ALL anti-vaxxers (every single one) are completely insane and dumb and all this ad-hominiem? what the hell FP?
[QUOTE=saintsim;48068554]Yeah, this is why we need a megathread for this. FP prides itself on cynicism but they won't dare question the idea of increasingly mandatory needles in your body at increasingly young ages? No red flags going off at all? ALL anti-vaxxers (every single one) are completely insane and dumb and all this ad-hominiem? what the hell FP?[/QUOTE]
Anti-vaxxers are basically flat-earthers or 9/11 troofers. They don't get the slightest bit of respect because they don't deserve it, they claim that they're asking questions but they completely ignore the answers when they disagree with them.
[QUOTE=saintsim;48068554]Yeah, this is why we need a megathread for this. FP prides itself on cynicism but they won't dare question the idea of increasingly mandatory needles in your body at increasingly young ages? No red flags going off at all? ALL anti-vaxxers (every single one) are completely insane and dumb and all this ad-hominiem? what the hell FP?[/QUOTE]
ALL anti-vaxxers are probably not insane, i imagine that would be a minority. They are however dumb due to the fact that they dismiss a thoroughly tested and proven safe method of reducing a childs risk of succumbing to disease.
On one hand, we have people like Wakefield. Vaccines are bad because reasons. The fact that he was proven wrong in multiple ways doesn't matter.
Then we have all the other scientists who say it's safe through peer reviewed journals using actual evidence and proper science. Nah, they are paid off or idiots
Face it, this is a none issue. I imagine the reason there is no vaccinations megathread is that it would degenerate to three or four people flinging insults at each other within about five pages. Because there is nothing to discuss about that.
[QUOTE=Smoked2Joints;48057444]Im just curious because everyone seems to blindly follow what their 'government' tells them, have any of you even read the inserts that come with vaccine boxes? No? Didnt think so. If these are so safe then why do they plainly state that vaccine recipients can actually carry the disease around and infect people that have all these compromised immune systems everyone is so worried about. Just the Adjuvants alone should raise a big red flag.
[QUOTE]French time-management specialist Aucun Choix—who was not consulted during the negotiations with drug companies that preceded the mandate—commented that "removing choice is one of the most basic steps you can take to simplify your life," noting that Americans suffer an inordinate amount of stress as a result of having too many choices.
"Making vaccination decisions is an arduous task involving lots of reading and information processing," he said, "and this is time Americans can now spend on less stressful activities such as eating and watching television with their families or texting friends.
They should embrace the opportunity to relinquish the responsibility of making medical choices to those who have graduated from medical school and have no doubts about vaccine safety.
It is a complete waste of time for non-medical professionals to research the subject of vaccines because federal health agencies receive a lot of money from the pharmaceutical industry to fast track vaccines to licensure and maintain very high quality control standards."[/QUOTE]
He sounds like a fucking SS officer that's telling you everything will be fine after the Zyklon B shot.
Look at all those buzzwords I'm really shocked that basically everyone on FP has no concept of even questioning these people, "FEDERAL HEALTH AGENCIES RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY" HMM MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. I mean come on us that noodle and see past the big money lies.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/04/01/mandatory-adult-vaccination-tracking-program.aspx"]Good journalism there, bro, you only missed one thing:[/URL]
[QUOTE][highlight]NOTICE
This piece is our annual April Fool's article. Some of the details herein are true, however, and the article could be suggestive of what we might face in the near future, should we fail to take corrective action to protect and preserve vaccine exemptions, informed consent, and medical freedom of choice.[/highlight][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]French time-management specialist [B]Aucun Choix[/B][/QUOTE]
"Aucun Choix" means "No Choice" in French. [I]A French time-management specialist named 'No Choice' saying that Americans are too stupid and busy to research anything and should not question corporate-funded authority[/I], I can hear the redneck hateboners hitting the undersides of desks from here.
[QUOTE=Mercola.com's about page]The existing medical establishment is responsible for killing and permanently injuring millions of Americans, but the surging numbers of visitors to Mercola.com since I began the site in 1997 - we are now routinely among the top 10 health sites on the Internet - convinces me that you, too, are fed up with their deception. You want practical health solutions without the hype, and that's what I offer.[/QUOTE]
You opened your involvement in this thread by quoting antivax-written satire as if it was genuine, despite the warning, and you have not gotten any better from there. I can't breathe :v:
Holy hell, well we know why he didn't post a link to that bit of "evidence".
Oh god dammit I thought that disclaimer was at the bottom of the page. It's fucking the first thing before you start reading the damned thing. :v:
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;48055057]We? [I]Their parents[/I] doom their kids when they choose not to vaccinate them for their stupid reasons.[/QUOTE]
And instead they choose to use bleach enemas to try and treat the "autism", like some medieval barbarism involving "beating the devil out of the child".
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