[QUOTE=Warhol;25906911]Guess what, hurt them enough, they'll fucking tell you anything.
More likely than not, it's not true.[/QUOTE]
it better be true or they'll get worse
If we know they're a terrorist, I don't have a problem with water boarding them
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25906972]it better be true or they'll get worse[/QUOTE]
that's not how it works.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;25906985]If we know they're a terrorist, I don't have a problem with water boarding them[/QUOTE]
what is wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;25907233]what is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
If water boarding is the only way to get answers and same lives then, what is wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25907300]If water boarding is the only way to get answers and same lives then, what is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
so you create a biased hypothetical and try to use it to justify torture
great
torture is not justifiable under any circumstances
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;25907454]so you create a biased hypothetical and try to use it to justify torture
great
torture is not justifiable under any circumstances[/QUOTE]
Yeah neither is killing another human
oh wait...
[img]http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/13/b7/27/wake-boarding.jpg[/img]
This will surely terrify terrorists
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25907668]Yeah neither is killing another human
oh wait...[/QUOTE]
Or lying when under pain
oh wait...
[QUOTE=Warhol;25907772]Or lying when under pain
oh wait...[/QUOTE]
you got a better idea because to be honest I don't think there is
Just chill bro
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25907784]you got a better idea because to be honest I don't think there is[/QUOTE]
that's not the point
[QUOTE=Carne;25880778]Glad I live in Europe, where we don't have to result in torture to get information.[/QUOTE]
Are you joking?
[editline]7th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zareox7;25881181]Torture will just cause the victim to tell you what you want to hear. It could be the truth, it could not be. It's a very inefficient way to get information.[/QUOTE]
I hate it when people pull this up.
If it wasn't working and they were just lying, the US wouldn't still be doing it. It has gotten useful information before, and has saved peoples lives.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;25913189]
I hate it when people pull this up.
If it wasn't working and they were just lying, the US wouldn't still be doing it. It has gotten useful information before, and has saved peoples lives.[/QUOTE]
Uh, no, it hasn't. Just because they use it doesn't mean it works.
You people complaining about waterboarding have obviously never been a member of a fraternity.
[QUOTE=Carne;25880778]Glad I live in Europe, where we don't have to result in torture to get information.[/QUOTE]
Turkey all by itself has tortured over ONE MILLION PEOPLE since 1980, and I am sure that other countries are doing the same thing. Oh, and let's not forget Romania, the nice folks who had Vlad the Impaler.
He's fucking stupid, why do people listen to what he has to say anymore.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;25920123]Oh, and let's not forget Romania, the nice folks who had Vlad the Impaler.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha dude that was like 600 years ago
[editline]7th November 2010[/editline]
Was that a joke?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25881410]The idea that we should erode basic human decency for safety is foolish and unwise. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said "those who would give away their freedoms for security, deserve no freedom"[/QUOTE]
Yeah but, it's not the torturers who are losing their freedoms OR security is it? :v:
Torture should only be used in extreme circumstances, when time is a massive issue, otherwise stuff like drugging the captive and mentally breaking them helps a lot more.
And there's also the issue that they could be incredibly strong mentally, which means that unless you intimately know everything about that guys life you're just about fucked and will never get the information out of them.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;25920123]Turkey all by itself has tortured over ONE MILLION PEOPLE since 1980, and I am sure that other countries are doing the same thing. Oh, and let's not forget Romania, the nice folks who had Vlad the Impaler.[/QUOTE]
Turkey is not Europe
and vlad the impaler died SIX HUNDRED years ago
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;25881083]ugh like what[/QUOTE]
His love of pretzels.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25925756]Turkey is not Europe
and vlad the impaler died SIX HUNDRED years ago[/QUOTE]
Turkey would certainly like to think that Turkey is part of Europe.
Who's the white former president that's a pain machine to all the captured terrorists?
Bush!
You're damn right!
I love how everybody is laughing at Bush now that someone else is president.
Half this damn country needs is someone to blame and that's it.. once they can't be blamed people move on.
[QUOTE=JeffAndersen;25931875]I love how everybody is laughing at Bush now that someone else is president.
Half this damn country needs is someone to blame and that's it.. once they can't be blamed people move on.[/QUOTE]
you do know that Bush and the Republicans' policies enacted from the time they were in power don't just disappear once a new president is elected, right?
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;25907751][img_thumb]http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/13/b7/27/wake-boarding.jpg[/img_thumb]
This will surely terrify terrorists[/QUOTE]
That's wakeboarding you dunce
I'm pretty sure one is quite a bit more fun than the other but I'm not certain which
[QUOTE=Carne;25880778]Glad I live in Europe, where we don't have to result in torture to get information.[/QUOTE]
here in the UK we make Susan Boyle strip to get information.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;25907751][img_thumb]http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/13/b7/27/wake-boarding.jpg[/img_thumb]
This will surely terrify terrorists[/QUOTE]
hey man media tag that shit it's fucking horrible how could you post that
Can water boarding really kill you?
I thought it was harmless.
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