Berkeley High Students Walk Out to Protest Racist Messages on Library Computer
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I bet someone just used "Inspect Element" to modify an open webpage.
Man, people get upset over the pettiest shit.
I was wondering why there were so many highschool kids on my campus today (uc Berkeley is right next to the highschool.). From what I could tell, but I'm an awful source seeing how I learned about the walkout just now, the kids who were actually offended stayed around their highschool, while the rest just fucked off and pretended it was a free day by playing football on my school's glade and stuff.
[editline]5th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49058102]This is Berkeley. Remember that. They would walk out if carrots were served instead of corn at lunch
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Little of A, little of B. Its crazy that they would find a need to walk out over an isolated event on a single computer. If they were to walk out over this, they would probably walk out over carrots and corn too.[/QUOTE]
Also like socram said, the highschool here has no real history of being protest happy, only the actual university here has that history, and it seems to be becoming more historical seeing the current climate on campus towards mass protests.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49058213]And of course they get branded a hate group despite "We do not hate any other race and we do not wish anyone harm".[/QUOTE]
I don't think they're a hate group, but I do think the people in that group are trying to prove a point and I don't think it's a noble one. I think they're just ignorant
you know what they all are?
pussies.
i can't think of a better word for this, they are a bunch of fucking pussies. am i wrong?
When I was in high school all the student groups and union had booths up for you to sign up.
Me being the smart ass i was I attempted to sign up to join the black students union. I was told i couldn't join, I asked why It was because I was white and only blacks could join.
Told him way to combat social issues by perpetrating them.
Needless to say most of these unions are fucking stupid and do nothing productive.
[QUOTE=MR-X;49059363]When I was in high school all the student groups and union had booths up for you to sign up.
Me being the smart ass i was I attempted to sign up to join the black students union. I was told i couldn't join, I asked why It was because I was white and only blacks could join.
Told him way to combat social issues by perpetrating them.
Needless to say most of these unions are fucking stupid and do nothing productive.[/QUOTE]
What genius did you have to offer the black student union?
i don't understand this mentality. it's for black students. it's in the name.
it's like signing up for the choir because you can't sing, but you -can- dance classical ballet. likely you're not going to be much help at all. why should they accept you into the group?
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;49059511]What genius did you have to offer the black student union?
i don't understand this mentality. it's for black students. it's in the name.[/QUOTE]
This is totally not racist.
Not really surprising that a woman had to go transblack to help advance black people.
Boy, I hope they never have to use any bathroom stalls.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49059202]I don't think they're a hate group, but I do think the people in that group are trying to prove a point and I don't think it's a noble one. I think they're just ignorant[/QUOTE]
A hate group according the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49059518]This is totally not racist.
Not really surprising that a woman had to go transblack to help advance black people.[/QUOTE]
Unions are for people who want to advance the cause of their fellow people. it's not about exclusivity, it's about common ground. The black student union LIKELY meets to discuss and act regarding issues facing just black students. if you are a non black student, you are not beset by these issues.
so now, if you want to be a part of the group, then you have to be filled in on what it IS like to be a black student. that takes time and energy, and by the way, ultimately, it's not that group's responsibility to have to explain what it's like to be black to someone who isn't.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
okay, how about this:
You go to the nearest port and find the office of the local stevedores' union. You ask to join the union, and the chapter head asks you how long you've been breaking ships. You answer that you've never worked the docks and you never will.
When the chapter holds its monthly assembly, the workers discuss how they're having trouble persuading city officials to financially support the dredging of the port's biggest shipping lane, which is overdue by at least a decade, and could bring in millions of dollars of tax revenue for the city in the coming years. They also debate how to handle the police chief's intrusive investigation into the shipping of illegal substances, which is causing the interruption of many hours of port work every day.
You're not a stevedore. you have no common ground because you've never experienced these issues firsthand. What good does it do anybody, including you, to try to join the union?
[QUOTE=Doozle;49058163]I dunno, maybe because white people aren't a historical oppressed minority?
Just a thought[/QUOTE]
And society won't be able to move on from that period until society moves on from that period.
These kids never lived through the sort of shit you're attributing this to. They didn't experience slavery, or the civil rights movement.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49059570]A hate group according the Southern Poverty Law Center.[/QUOTE]
SPLC says the US Border Patrol is a hate group because it targets Hispanics.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49059934]
SPLC says the US Border Patrol is a hate group because it targets Hispanics.[/QUOTE]
SPLC says American Border Patrol is a hate group, not Customs and Border Protection. One is racist hate group the other is a government organization.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49058213]And of course they get branded a hate group despite "We do not hate any other race and we do not wish anyone harm".[/QUOTE]
Dude even the fucking KKK claims stuff like that.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49057798][IMG]http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Screen-Shot-2015-11-04-at-10.27.21-PM.png[/IMG]
Seems like something you can ignore.[/QUOTE]
I think it's a bit fishy that it's a google site... clearly wasn't the school's responsibility. AFAIK school systems get their own site from the district.
[QUOTE=greasemunky;49060075]SPLC says American Border Patrol is a hate group, not Customs and Border Protection. [B]One is racist hate group the other is a government organization.[/B][/QUOTE]
What.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Customs_and_Border_Protection[/url]
[quote]Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is the largest federal law enforcement agency of the United States Department of Homeland Security charged with regulating and facilitating international trade, collecting import duties, and enforcing U.S. regulations, including trade, customs, and immigration.[/quote]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol[/url]
[quote]The United States Border Patrol (USBP) is an American federal law enforcement agency. Its mission is to detect and prevent illegal aliens, terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States, and prevent illegal trafficking of people and contraband.[1] [B]It is an agency within U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), a component of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).[/B][/quote]
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;49060198]What.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Customs_and_Border_Protection[/url]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol[/url][/QUOTE]
American Border Patrol is not the same thing, and the fact that Wikipedia has no page for American Border Patrol (and the fact that it redirects to USBP) is a MAJOR fuck up on Wikipedia's part. American Border Patrol's own website says it's a non-governmental organization.
And this, folks, is why we don't trust Wikipedia.
I made a note about it on the talk page but I don't expect anything to be done about it. I personally don't know Wikipedia well enough to know how to stop a page from redirecting.
Can't really blame Wikipedia for redirecting something because it usually goes hand in hand. America(n) and US usually get interchanged a lot.
Honestly I've never heard of the American Border Patrol as a private militia/border force, I thought it was the legitimate Border Patrol at first.
I learned something.
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/sBZ2Z96.png[/thumb]
are you buttfucking kidding me
EDIT: Alright now the captchas are loading and I've completed like 30 of them and it won't let me save changes.
EDIT 2: Refreshed, re-entered information and tried to save changes. Completed 10 more captchas, it still won't let me. Fuck it.
EDIT 3: Cleared cookies, re-entered info, tried to save changes. Same problem. Opened in Firefox, re-entered info, tried to save changes. Same fucking problem. Fuck you too, Wikipedia.
EDIT 4: Alright it now redirects to Glenn Spencer (the president of ABP). Thanks, whoever did that.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49059934]And society won't be able to move on from that period until society moves on from that period.
These kids never lived through the sort of shit you're attributing this to. They didn't experience slavery, or the civil rights movement.[/QUOTE]
But black people are still to this day disadvantaged in society and evidently still face racism.
You're basically saying "it's not as bad as it used to be, get over it" which is a pretty ignorant thing to say.
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;49058044]Pussies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=meppers;49059354]you know what they all are?
pussies.
i can't think of a better word for this, they are a bunch of fucking pussies. am i wrong?[/QUOTE]
What the fuck? These are threatening, frightening messages, it's completely natural to be upset about them.
I've got black and mixed race family and friends who still get it today. And it's not always blatant, it can be small things like the a woman holding tightly to her bag when a black boy walks down the street, or crossing the road to walk on the other side.
It was only 15 or so years ago my parents were told my older brother wouldn't be expected to do well in school because of the colour of his skin, by teachers no less. It was just a few years ago my brother got called a coon by several players on an opposing football team and was then told to "just ignore it" by officials.
Believe it or not racism is still alive and kicking. It might not be what it used to be. The white girl pushing a mix-race baby in a pram probably won't get called a nigger-lover these days (as my mum did) but it's still there. The small comments are still there (and I see it fairly often on this forum), it might not be straight up obvious racist shit but there's always indirects. I don't even think half the time people realise they're being racist when they say stupid shit.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
If in today's society if you really think you need a union or club for the advancement of rights or whatever for white people you're fucking deluded and probably a racist, even if you don't realise it
[QUOTE=Doozle;49058163]I dunno, maybe because white people aren't a historical oppressed minority?
Just a thought[/QUOTE]
The only times I can think of at the top of my head are: the Janissary system, the moors, and the Barbary slave trade.
Have there been any other times?
[QUOTE=Zet;49060811]The only times I can think of at the top of my head are: the Janissary system, the moors, and the Barbary slave trade.
Have there been any other times?[/QUOTE]
Well there was holocaust
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;49057368]Who the fuck does a walk out to protest something that nobody in power actually did
Do these people even understand what a protest is?
This sounds like a stupid excuse to get out of class.[/QUOTE]
It is a demonstration to the school and it's students that the message is absolutely not ok, very simple.
[QUOTE=Zet;49060811]The only times I can think of at the top of my head are: the Janissary system, the moors, and the Barbary slave trade.
Have there been any other times?[/QUOTE]
Irish famine, Holodomor, Armenian genocide and the Bosnian genocide are some others.
Either a vandal had changed the actual website or someone just edited the local html while it was up. One is much worse than the other, and it's unfortunate that literally nobody who "witnessed" the message has said which.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
One is like putting a post-it note on the trash can while the other is like jumping on the PA system and screaming it to the whole school.
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
Since the message showed up on "one of the school's library computers," I'd guess it was a local edit, if they were serving the website automatically to every library computer. Or maybe there was a brief window of vandalism on the actual website, during which only one computer opened it.
Give me more details.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49061188]Give me more details.[/QUOTE]
The article clearly says that there was no actual hacking involved. The screenshot was left open on one of the computers.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49057974]Ignoring the point that DChapsfield brought up - that the protesters stated that the school had refused to take action in other similar cases.
It seems like the peak of a buildup of administrative inaction, not just "a random comment."[/QUOTE]
On yes, and did you forget that the girl in question got absolved from sending that message out? Do you also forget that a majority thought she was a dipshit, but should be allowed to say such dumb shit?
It's like you are trying be ignorant on purpose, or you just stop reading something when you feel vincidated in your feelings.
Now you see, to start with I wasn't sure if this single event really justified mass class walkouts. After all, why is it the school's fault if someone edits local HTML on one of their computers? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the perpetrator used the protests as a chance to get out of class him/herself. It just seems like this is impossible to prevent outright, and so long as they do what they can to catch who's responsible I see no problem.
However
[quote]The statement went on to say that in the past, similar acts against black students have been ignored.[/quote]
Seems to suggest shit like this has been happening and that it's been ignored, and if that's the case then I guess I see the point. Singularly this message shouldn't have triggered a class walkout but if dumbshit stuff like this has been happening again and again and the school's refused to take a measured response in finding out who's responsible then I can see where the issue comes in.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;49057927][B]The irony here is that a lot of people on Facepunch got insanely outraged[/B] at the person who tweeted "#killallwhitemen" - how is this any different at all? It's a school with a history of not taking action on issues like these, and it's blatantly racist.
It can [i]easily[/i] be considered a threat, considering it states "public lynching december 9th."[/QUOTE]
I think your perception of reality is a bit warped.
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