American man prays to god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430122]Well, then don't attack the issue with bigotry, because you're doing the same thing he did. Ignored another persons view on things.[/QUOTE] Your/their views are made up of things that make no logical sense what so ever.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430122]Well, then don't attack the issue with bigotry, because you're doing the same thing he did. Ignored another persons view on things.[/QUOTE] It's not bigotry when you kill other people with ignorance.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430143]Your/their views are made up of things that make no logical sense what so ever.[/QUOTE] Prove logically that logic is valid. Wait, SHIT

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430151]Prove logically that logic is valid. Wait, SHIT[/QUOTE] brb converting 2 christianity

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430127]Living without sin? Have you eaten meat on a friday? Worked on a Saturday? Slept with someone out of wedlock? Performed sodomy on a woman? Idolized anything? Yeah, you haven't lived without sin, you just pick what you want to hear.[/QUOTE] God forgives. God understands humantie's mistake. Nothingness doesn't. If I die believing one hundred percent there's no god, I know I'm dying without ever making amends for my wrongs. Atleast god would understand my wrongs, even if he deems that I don't deserve to ascend to heaven or whatever.

It's beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew medicine could have saved her, but instead he chose a god, a god with no real proof, or evidence of ever having saved anyone or anything before. This is not reasonable, this is ignorance, idiocy, and dangerous. We can not, and should not be happy to let this go on.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430159]God forgives. God understands humantie's mistake. Nothingness doesn't. If I die believing one hundred percent there's no god, I know I'm dying without ever making amends for my wrongs. Atleast god would understand my wrongs, even if he deems that I don't deserve to ascend to heaven or whatever.[/QUOTE] God doesn't exist. :bang:

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430167]God doesn't exist. :bang:[/QUOTE] Yes he does. He exists to ever Christian. God exists in one form or another, even if he's just an ideal. Maybe God will save this guy too.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430159]God forgives. God understands humantie's mistake. Nothingness doesn't. If I die believing one hundred percent there's no god, I know I'm dying without ever making amends for my wrongs. Atleast god would understand my wrongs, even if he deems that I don't deserve to ascend to heaven or whatever.[/QUOTE] ...Nothingness doesn't have to forgive anything. If I'm happy with what I've done, then I don't give a shit(and I am) then how am I more guilty than you? You're essentially the model for Pascals wager. It's pathetic.

I'm a christian and even I think this dude is a moron. "OH HELP ME GOD I WON'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP MY DAUGHTER SO I'M GOING TO ENTRUST HER WITH YOU BECAUSE I AM STUPID AND CAN'T DO THINGS MYSELF." So now an innocent girl is dead because of this man's decision. As if moronic Christians across the globe didn't make us all look like a bunch of tossers already.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430159]God forgives. God understands humantie's mistake. Nothingness doesn't. If I die believing one hundred percent there's no god, I know I'm dying without ever making amends for my wrongs. Atleast god would understand my wrongs, even if he deems that I don't deserve to ascend to heaven or whatever.[/QUOTE] Unless God is actually Cthulhu and doesn't really give a flying fuck about you. "God forgives" assumes the real god is the one you're dreaming up.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430174]Yes he does. He exists to ever Christian. God exists in one form or another, even if he's just an ideal. Maybe God will save this guy too.[/QUOTE] God is supposed to be a being. You're moronic. You keep repeating "He's just an idea" but Christians would hit you for patronizing them like that, they believe in his BEING. He is more than an idea to them, but he is not provable beyond an idea at this point.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430174]Yes he does. He exists to ever Christian. God exists in one form or another, even if he's just an ideal. Maybe God will save this guy too.[/QUOTE] Any proof? And don't say "well you can't disprove it hurrdurr"

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430174]Yes he does. He exists to ever Christian. God exists in one form or another, even if he's just an ideal. Maybe God will save this guy too.[/QUOTE] This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. "People believe something. Maybe this idea will do something."

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430177]...Nothingness doesn't have to forgive anything. If I'm happy with what I've done, then I don't give a shit(and I am) then how am I more guilty than you? You're essentially the model for Pascals wager. It's pathetic.[/QUOTE] I'm not wagering. I'm living how I want. I'm not rolling dice, I'm turning them the way I want them to be, and if god is there and he's cool with that. That's cool. But if not I'm cool with the way I put my dice too, so god doesn't need to forgive me for me to be happy with myself.

horrible double post i am so sorry

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430193]This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. "People believe something. Maybe this idea will do something."[/QUOTE] Well according to you it's done alot of something, particularly war. If an idea can cause war, it can save a young girl too.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430198]I'm not wagering. I'm living how I want. I'm not rolling dice, I'm turning them the way I want them to be, and if god is there and he's cool with that. That's cool. But if not I'm cool with the way I put my dice too, so god doesn't need to forgive me for me to be happy with myself.[/QUOTE] Alternatively: "I don't know what Pascal's Wager is but here's some stuff about how cool my beliefs make me."

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430198]I'm not wagering. I'm living how I want. I'm not rolling dice, I'm turning them the way I want them to be, and if god is there and he's cool with that. That's cool. But if not I'm cool with the way I put my dice too, so god doesn't need to forgive me for me to be happy with myself.[/QUOTE] So your cheating? This all relies on it being your god. There are so many "Gods" out there, the chances of you being right are astronomical. You are rolling the dice whether you think so or not. You're just hedging you bets.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430198]I'm not wagering. I'm living how I want. I'm not rolling dice, I'm turning them the way I want them to be, and if god is there and he's cool with that. That's cool. But if not I'm cool with the way I put my dice too, so god doesn't need to forgive me for me to be happy with myself.[/QUOTE] Essentially you don't care. But, not caring is still ignorance. Ignorance is bad.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430207]Well according to you it's done alot of something, particularly war. If an idea can cause war, it can save a young girl too.[/QUOTE] An idea can't change your cells composition to fight a disease, they can change your mind though.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430211]So your cheating? This all relies on it being your god. There are so many "Gods" out there, the chances of you being right are astronomical. You are rolling the dice whether you think so or not. You're just hedging you bets.[/QUOTE] Alright, whatever you say. I'm just making sure that when I die, I'm okay with how I lived. Eternal condemnation or not.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430207]Well according to you it's done alot of something, particularly war. If an idea can cause war, it can save a young girl too.[/QUOTE] :bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang: adsfadsjklh;fadsjklh;nFDSFDSFGASFDS:"kKL; GOD HELP THIS MAN. HE OBVIOUSLY DRANK PAINT THINNER AS A SMALL CHILD.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430207]Well according to you it's done alot of something, particularly war. If an idea can cause war, it can save a young girl too.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but people have to start those wars. They don't spontaneously happen because you hope they will. You have to make healing happen. Via a doctor.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430207]Well according to you it's done alot of something, particularly war. If an idea can cause war, it can save a young girl too.[/QUOTE] You are retarded. I'm probably going to get banned for flaming, but I just have to say it. [B]YOU, GOOD SIR, ARE RETARDED.[/B]

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430221]Alright, whatever you say. I'm just making sure that when I die, I'm okay with how I lived. Eternal condemnation or not.[/QUOTE] So you have no response, this is how you say it.

Discussions of religion on the internet.... useless Discussions of religion on Facepunch.... pointless Atheists discussing religion on both ... funnier than hell... literally. Look, I'm all for prayer and it does work, however there is an old adage that applies, it involves using your brain AND your faith. He should have taken her to the hospital AND prayed. Praying for miracles does not work... if ANYONE thinks otherwise... 1) They don't know jack about religion 2) They're not using their brain God gave you a brain... so for your sake... USE IT and pray that your brain works as it is designed to.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430227]Sorry, but people have to start those wars. They don't spontaneously happen because you hope they will. You have to make healing happen. Via a doctor.[/QUOTE] Really? Religion causes war too, it might make some crazy shit happen with protiens. Religion has never caused a war, only man has.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430221]Alright, whatever you say. I'm just making sure that when I die, I'm okay with how I lived. Eternal condemnation or not.[/QUOTE] Blissful ignorance makes me happy! I killed someone else with my blissful ignorance in life? Doesn't matter to me! I'm blissfully ignorant of this fact! :D

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430236]Discussions of religion on the internet.... useless Discussions of religion on Facepunch.... pointless Atheists discussing religion on both ... funnier than hell... literally. Look, I'm all for prayer and [B]it does work[/B], however there is an old adage that applies, it involves using your brain AND your faith. He should have taken her to the hospital AND prayed. Praying for miracles does not work... if ANYONE thinks otherwise... 1) They don't know jack about religion 2) They're not using their brain God gave you a brain... so for your sake... USE IT and pray that your brain works as it is designed to.[/QUOTE] No it doesn't.