American man prays to god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430442]I still see, no facts that God doesn't exist, what so ever. While here I have a book, that has personal accounts that he does. What personal accounts of god not existing do you have?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_%28logical_fallacy%29[/url]

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430441]Since when? Those who believe in Self Absolution, or absolution by catholic priests are delusional, since neither can absolve you of anything.[/QUOTE] Exactly why prayer is useless. Thanks for agreeing with me.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430442]I still see, no facts that God doesn't exist, what so ever.[/QUOTE] Excuse the irony, but oh dear god in heaven...

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430442]I still see, no facts that God doesn't exist, what so ever. While here I have a book, that has personal accounts that he does. What personal accounts of god not existing do you have?[/QUOTE] Please tell me you have some sort of mental disability that prevents you from logical thinking. Personal accounts of god are completely unscientifical as they cannot be recreated or tested.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430442]I still see, no facts that God doesn't exist, what so ever. While here I have a book, that has personal accounts that he does. What personal accounts of god not existing do you have?[/QUOTE] ...The bible has no actual accounts of god, it has retellings, of retellings, of retellings of stories from aeons before. The bible took every story written in it from somewhere else, somewhere that vastly predates it.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430461]Excuse the irony, but oh dear god in heaven...[/QUOTE] So the burden of proof is on -you-! I have the facts, now where are yours?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430456]Exactly why prayer is useless. Thanks for agreeing with me.[/QUOTE] Alrighty then... we'll just file that under "didn't read the post, or use brain." Neither are true statements, nice try.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430442]I still see, no facts that God doesn't exist, what so ever. While here I have a book, that has personal accounts that he does. What personal accounts of god not existing do you have?[/QUOTE] Logic, scientific proof disproving your 'proof', logical holes in your proof, etc.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430478]So the burden of proof is on -you-! I have the facts, now where are yours?[/QUOTE] This is like arguing with a five year old. Really

Jawalt gives me the urge to post a huge facepalm image macro.

[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16430445]>facts >wikipedia what[/QUOTE] Wikipedia has standards, and as the article is about logical fallacies, the fact it's wikipedia has nothing to do with it.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430478]So the burden of proof is on -you-! I have the facts, now where are yours?[/QUOTE] Well, what you have isn't proof of anything other then the existence of schizophrenic people. Evidence is generally regarded as a result that can be reproduced consistently through doing one thing.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430478]So the burden of proof is on -you-! I have the facts, now where are yours?[/QUOTE] ...You have no facts. Burden of proof is still on you. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430475]...The bible has no actual accounts of god, it has retellings, of retellings, of retellings of stories from aeons before. The bible took every story written in it from somewhere else, somewhere that vastly predates it.[/QUOTE] There. Again. Read it.

You can't really disprove a God or higher power

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430478]So the burden of proof is on -you-! I have the facts, now where are yours?[/QUOTE] No. The burden of proof is not on me. The proposition is, "God exists." The negative default stance is, "No he does not." Not enough rational justification exists to prove god, therefore it is reasonable to assume he does not exist. Until god can be perfectly proven, it should be held that he does not exist. QED

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;16430487]This is like arguing with a five year old. Really[/QUOTE] You said the burden of proof is on me, I can give you volumes and volumes of proof. Enough to fit a library. Where's yours? Don't feed me logic bullshit.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430503]Don't feed me logic bullshit.[/QUOTE] I'm done.

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430481]Alrighty then... we'll just file that under "didn't read the post, or use brain." Neither are true statements, nice try.[/QUOTE] Find me some documented proof of prayer have any impact on anything beyond a placebo.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430503]You said the burden of proof is on me, I can give you volumes and volumes of proof. Enough to fit a library. Where's yours? Don't feed me logic bullshit.[/QUOTE] No you can't. You can give recycled stories. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430475]...The bible has no actual accounts of god, it has retellings, of retellings, of retellings of stories from aeons before. The bible took every story written in it from somewhere else, somewhere that vastly predates it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430503]You said the burden of proof is on me, I can give you volumes and volumes of proof. Enough to fit a library. Where's yours? Don't feed me logic bullshit.[/QUOTE] Give me your proof then.

[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16430499]You can't really disprove a God or higher power[/QUOTE] You can't disprove russel's teapot either. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russel%27s_teapot[/url]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430510]I'm done.[/QUOTE] Good, because you want to talk about facts and then feed me the same shit you were using against me. Nah, fuck that.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430510]I'm done.[/QUOTE] Amen.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430503]You said the burden of proof is on me, I can give you volumes and volumes of proof. Enough to fit a library. Where's yours? Don't feed me logic bullshit.[/QUOTE] You know what. Your highly logical and reasonable arguments have made me convert to Christianity. all hail jeses.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430524]Good, because you want to talk about facts and then feed me the same shit you were using against me. Nah, fuck that.[/QUOTE] So, lets see your proof then.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430524]Good, because you want to talk about facts and then feed me the same shit you were using against me. Nah, fuck that.[/QUOTE] Because you treat the bible like it is fact. Read my fucking post. Also, you just fucking said 'NO MORE LOGIC!!", you can't argue with that shit. You're just denying anything that isn't your view point. That's what an idiot does. An insecure idiot.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;16430529]You know what. Your highly logical and reasonable arguments have made me convert to Christianity. all hail jeses.[/QUOTE] I don't know if you read, but I'm not religious. Whatever you fags want to preach, Atheism is a religion.

.... you guys are dorks... "God Doesn't Exists Prove he does." -> Burden of proof on the Believer "God Exists Prove he doesn't." -> Burden of proof on NON-Believer The burden of proof is on BOTH parties since both believe they are right... since it CANNOT be proven that God does or doesn't exist. How hard can one roll their eyes?

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430543]I don't know if you read, but I'm not religious. Whatever you fags want to preach, Atheism is a religion.[/QUOTE] Show me that evidence you were talking about please?

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430551]Show me that evidence you were talking about please?[/QUOTE] Google "bible", it lists many personal accounts.