American man prays to god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430543]I don't know if you read, but I'm not religious. Whatever you fags want to preach, Atheism is a religion.[/QUOTE] No. It isn't. Read again, it is not organized, centralized, nor is their any creed. That's not a religion. It's a singular belief. [editline]11:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Jawalt;16430559]Google "bible", it lists many personal accounts.[/QUOTE] HOLY FUCK. Stop ignoring my post. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430475]...The bible has no actual accounts of god, it has retellings, of retellings, of retellings of stories from aeons before. The bible took every story written in it from somewhere else, somewhere that vastly predates it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430547].... you guys are dorks... "God Doesn't Exists Prove he does." -> Burden of proof on the Believer "God Exists Prove he doesn't." -> Burden of proof on NON-Believer The burden of proof is on BOTH parties since both believe they are right... since it CANNOT be proven that God does or doesn't exist. How hard can one roll their eyes?[/QUOTE] No, the burden of proof is on the party trying to prove the existence of some fact. Such as a clinical study tries to prove that a medicine does something.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430543]I don't know if you read, but I'm not religious. Whatever you fags want to preach, Atheism is a religion.[/QUOTE] Atheism can be either the rejection of theism, or the position that deities do not exist. That means it's not a religion.

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430547].... you guys are dorks... "God Doesn't Exists Prove he does." -> Burden of proof on the Believer "God Exists Prove he doesn't." -> Burden of proof on NON-Believer The burden of proof is on BOTH parties since both believe they are right... since it CANNOT be proven that God does or doesn't exist. How hard can one roll their eyes?[/QUOTE] If god existed there would be proof to support it. If he doesn't, there still wouldn't be proof to support that. Therefore, he has to prove that God exists.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430559]Google "bible", it lists many personal accounts.[/QUOTE] Google Schizophrenia and drugs. I hear they make you see and hear things that aren't there.

Ok, one more time for Jawalt. The bible is recycled old stories, here, I said it already; [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430475]...The bible has no actual accounts of god, it has retellings, of retellings, of retellings of stories from aeons before. The bible took every story written in it from somewhere else, somewhere that vastly predates it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430543]I don't know if you read, but I'm not religious. Whatever you fags want to preach, Atheism is a religion.[/QUOTE] I've come to the conclusion that you're a troll, or you have the I.Q. of a five year old, and if it is the second one then I feel sorry for you. Atheism isn't a religion it's the lack of a belief in god.

[QUOTE=McSanchezV2;16430577]If god existed there would be proof to support it. If he doesn't, there still wouldn't be proof to support that. Therefore, he has to prove that God exists.[/QUOTE] I love you.

Seriously, why do people deny the existance of any sort of god immediately? You can't prove a god doesn't exist, but you can't prove one does. I personally believe there is a God, but I can't prove it.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16428905]Manslaughter is a crime. Besides, we might be bigots, but at least we have LOGIC, [b]REASONING, COMMON SENSE[/b], and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE on our side. You have scripture that conflicts with other scripture and often within it self, preaching morals of the old days that people selectively choose to follow for no reason what so ever.[/QUOTE] I call bullshit on the bolded. That is like saying FP doesn't get emotional over stuff.

More proof that their is no god.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430559]Google "bible", it lists many personal accounts.[/QUOTE] The bible has been edited so many times, by people who lived many many years after the events that are in it say they are. It is not that reliable.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;16430588]Seriously, why do people deny the existance of any sort of god immediately? You can't prove a god doesn't exist, but you can't prove one does. I personally believe there is a God, but I can't prove it.[/QUOTE] The default negative stance in an argument is to doubt the effects of something. Read JohnyMos post again god damnit.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;16430588]Seriously, why do people deny the existance of any sort of god immediately? You can't prove a god doesn't exist, but you can't prove one does. I personally believe there is a God, but I can't prove it.[/QUOTE] Then that means you believe in god because of faith. Faith is believing in something without evidence, which is illogical thus stupid.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;16430588]Seriously, why do people deny the existance of any sort of god immediately? You can't prove a god doesn't exist, but you can't prove one does. I personally believe there is a God, but I can't prove it.[/QUOTE] Nope, we can't disprove it. But we can disprove any 'proof' you might have towards it.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430568]No, the burden of proof is on the party trying to prove the existence of some fact. Such as a clinical study tries to prove that a medicine does something.[/QUOTE] 1) My previous post was a general statement and doesn't not apply to "clinical studies of medicine"... oops... 2) "the burden of proof is on the party trying to prove the existence of some fact." Right... two different "Facts" a) God Exists b) God doesn't exist. Both are Facts to either side, so the burden of proof is on BOTH parties.

ITT: Another excuse for Athiests to be attention whores who need to get their way

It's of a similar build. Nearly everyone involved is a bigot. They call themselves atheist like it's an organization. They share a common belief. It sounds more and more like a religion as you watch people like these rant about it.

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430608]1) My previous post was a general statement and doesn't not apply to "clinical studies of medicine"... oops... 2) "the burden of proof is on the party trying to prove the existence of some fact." Right... two different "Facts" a) God Exists b) God doesn't exist. Both are Facts to either side, so the burden of proof is on BOTH parties.[/QUOTE] By default, something is not true until it is proven to be true. Do you really want to disagree with this?

[QUOTE=Big Blue;16430610]ITT: Another excuse for Athiests to be attention whores who need to get their way[/QUOTE] So you are saying it was perfectly alright for the father to not take her near-dead daughter to hospital?

[QUOTE=Fox682;16430608]1) My previous post was a general statement and doesn't not apply to "clinical studies of medicine"... oops... 2) "the burden of proof is on the party trying to prove the existence of some fact." Right... two different "Facts" a) God Exists b) God doesn't exist. Both are Facts to either side, so the burden of proof is on BOTH parties.[/QUOTE] They are beliefs. One of them is backed up by logical reasoning, the other a book that has been rewritten and edited countless times. Gee, I wonder which holds water.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430614]It's of a similar build. Nearly everyone involved is a bigot. They call themselves atheist like it's an organization. They share a common belief. It sounds more and more like a religion as you watch people like these rant about it.[/QUOTE] Stop trying to generalize.

That's not how it works, there are more personal accounts from people, past and now. That have seen god, then those who have seen that god doesn't exist. Argue about fallacies all you want there's no solid argument either way. [editline]02:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Kybalt;16430629]Stop trying to generalize.[/QUOTE] You're not helping. Lol.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430634]That's not how it works, there are more personal accounts from people, past and now. That have seen god, then those who have seen that god doesn't exist. Argue about fallacies all you want there's no solid argument either way. [editline]02:58AM[/editline] You're not helping. Lol.[/QUOTE] Stop. Fucking. Ignoring my post. Also, Atheism does not meet any of the criteria of a religion. "No. It isn't. Read again, it is not organized, centralized, nor is their any creed. That's not a religion. It's a singular belief."

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430634]That's not how it works, there are more personal accounts from people, past and now. That have seen god, then those who have seen that god doesn't exist. Argue about fallacies all you want there's no solid argument either way. [editline]02:58AM[/editline] You're not helping. Lol.[/QUOTE] You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron. :bang: Do you even understand the meaning of the words you're using?

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430614]It's of a similar build. Nearly everyone involved is a bigot. They call themselves atheist like it's an organization. They share a common belief. It sounds more and more like a religion as you watch people like these rant about it.[/QUOTE] I say the earth is flat. The people who say it is spherical share a common belief and are therefore a religion :downs:

[QUOTE=McSanchezV2;16430651]I say the earth is flat. The people who say it is spherical share a common belief and are therefore a religion :downs:[/QUOTE] dam those round earthers

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430614]It's of a similar build. Nearly everyone involved is a bigot. They call themselves atheist like it's an organization. They share a common belief. It sounds more and more like a religion as you watch people like these rant about it.[/QUOTE] Go look up the definition of religion. By your loose idea of it, because everyone shares a common belief of 'gravity makes things fall down', we all belong to a religion. We call ourselves atheists because it's the definition of it: We do not believe in a god, spiritual power, or deity.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430648]You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron. :bang: Do you even understand the meaning of the words you're using?[/QUOTE] Yes, but as I've got evidence that god exists in the accounts of thousands of men and women. I've given proof, now prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=McSanchezV2;16430577]If god existed there would be proof to support it. If he doesn't, there still wouldn't be proof to support that. Therefore, he has to prove that God exists.[/QUOTE] Answer to my post please. Give ACTUAL proof that God exists. Not children's stories from a 2000 year old book.