American man prays to god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429019]Oh, but they do. They exploit others with food, they kill and injure others etc. Often male monkeys force women to do the nasty with them before receiving a share of food. They're in the same boat as us.[/QUOTE] Do you honestly believe that without religion people would be killing each other and stealing?

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429047]Do you honestly believe that without religion people would be killing each other and stealing?[/QUOTE] Not at all, but it doesn't hurt.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429047]Do you honestly believe that without religion people would be killing each other and stealing?[/QUOTE] You are being an extremist Athiest. Should stop before you look just as bad as Catholics.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429060]Not at all, but it doesn't hurt.[/QUOTE] [url]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crusades[/url] [url]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition[/url] [url]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad[/url] to name a few

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429060]Not at all, [B]but it doesn't hurt[/B].[/QUOTE] Crusades. Pope: CONDOMS SPRED AIDS K GUISE? Stem Cell reseach = bad Lone gunman goes to gay support center, kills two people, wounds ten. American man prays too god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies.

i wish some people didn't pray "so" god

[QUOTE=bigdan;16429072]You are being an extremist [B]Atheist[/B]. Should stop before you look just as bad as Catholics.[/QUOTE] At least spell it right. Second of all, Religion, hasn't exactly been so useful/helpful in the past 400 years.

Christianity teaches peace and tolerance. Unless the Muslims have Jerusalem, in that case kill them all including the women and children, but rape the women first. God says so.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429047]Do you honestly believe that without religion people would be killing each other and stealing?[/QUOTE] Ha ha. What, do you believe that? Intolerance over the internet is fucking hilarious.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429085]Crusades. Pope: CONDOMS SPRED AIDS K GUISE? Stem Cell reseach = bad Lone gunman goes to gay support center, kills two people, wounds ten. American man prays too god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies.[/QUOTE] Those weren't about religion and you know it. Without religion they'd use some other guise for those things. And no, American man prays to god, believing it could offer more help than a doctor in his judgment which is his legal right as a guardian. Daughter dies because it didn't work, maybe it was 'god's will'?

[QUOTE=McSanchezV2;16429106][B]Religion teaches peace and tolerance.[/B] Unless the Muslims have Jerusalem, in that case kill them including the women and children, but rape the women first. God says so.[/QUOTE] Best be trollin

[QUOTE=bigdan;16428964]You do know Christians are the ones that made the Rules of killing others, stealing and so on right?[/QUOTE] Are you fucking retarded? Ever heard of the Hamurabi Code? Predates Christianity AND it has all of the moral commandments in it too! GUESS WHAT!? You're religion didn't create anything. It salvaged others and stole more.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429112]Those weren't about religion and you know it. Without religion they'd use some other guise for those things. And no, American man prays to god, believing it could offer more help than a doctor in his judgment which is his legal right as a guardian. Daughter dies because it didn't work, maybe it was [B]'god's will'[/B]?[/QUOTE] No I'm pretty sure it was the disease she had.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429113]Best be trollin[/QUOTE] twas sarcasm

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429112]Those weren't about religion and you know it. Without religion they'd use some other guise for those things. And no, American man prays to god, believing it could offer more help than a doctor in his judgment which is his legal right as a guardian. Daughter dies because it didn't work, maybe it was 'god's will'?[/QUOTE] What about the Spanish Inquisition? He was fucking dumb. It's not his legal right to be negligent.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16428905]Manslaughter is a crime. Besides, we might be bigots, but at least we have LOGIC, REASONING, COMMON SENSE, and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE on our side. You have scripture that conflicts with other scripture and often within it self, preaching morals of the old days that people selectively choose to follow for no reason what so ever.[/QUOTE] Manslaughter = Unintentional killing Murder = Intentional killing

"...hospital because she was unable to walk, talk, eat or drink." I'm pretty sure this is around where he should have done something besides pray.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16427481]So if I killed you, would that just make it God's will?[/QUOTE] If He told you so, then sure.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429112]Those weren't about religion and you know it. Without religion they'd use some other guise for those things. And no, American man prays to god, believing it could offer more help than a doctor in his judgment which is his legal right as a guardian. Daughter dies because it didn't work, maybe it was 'god's will'?[/QUOTE] I've argueed this before. No the Crusades were not started over religion, it was purely for economic reasons. But can you really get people to fight for that? No. Can you get them to die for their god? Yes. So why not just tell them it's a holy war. It's still a holy war then. People are living, killing, and dying for God. Not for economic reasons. It is a god damn holy war.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429129]No I'm pretty sure it was the disease she had.[/QUOTE] Catholic status reached.

[QUOTE=KigJow;16429150]If He told you so, then sure.[/QUOTE] Ok, God told me I should kill you. Where are you? He left that part out.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429060]Not at all, but it doesn't hurt.[/QUOTE] religion is the number one cause of wars

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16429149]"...hospital because she was unable to walk, talk, eat or drink." I'm pretty sure this is around where he should have done something besides pray.[/QUOTE] Maybe god didn't want her here anymore? Maybe god wanted her in her innocence? Who's to question a mans faith?

[QUOTE=bigdan;16429165]Catholic status reached.[/QUOTE] If Catholic is the stupidest, you're far beyond it at this rate.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429112]Those weren't about religion and you know it. Without religion they'd use some other guise for those things. And no, American man prays to god, believing it could offer more help than a doctor in his judgment which is his legal right as a guardian. Daughter dies because it didn't work, maybe it was 'god's will'?[/QUOTE] It still left religion as a tool for the powerful to use against the powerless. A tool forged from ignorance.

[QUOTE=M_B;16429179]religion is the number one cause of wars[/QUOTE] Religion is the number one EXCUSE for wars.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429181]Maybe god didn't want her here anymore? Maybe god wanted her in her innocence? Who's to question a mans faith?[/QUOTE] Everyone can question his faith. Why? Because it's ENDANGERING OTHERS. That's the problem. If it was himself no one should care, but seeing as it's his daughter and other people he's endangering, it is our problem.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429181]Maybe god didn't want her here anymore? Maybe god wanted her in her innocence? Who's to question a mans faith?[/QUOTE] The issue here is that god doesn't exist and thus cannot want anything. Faith is a stupid and broken concept.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429192]Religion is the number one EXCUSE for wars.[/QUOTE] It's the number one reason people JOIN a war. Still makes it the number one reason for war.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429192]Religion is the number one EXCUSE for wars.[/QUOTE] Causes and excuses are equally bad.