American man prays to god rather than taking daughter to the doctor. Daughter dies. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429948]But I'd die happy with myself, maybe I thought was actually flying? I would take off before I hit the ground, for sure.[/QUOTE] Care to test this?

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429948]But I'd die happy with myself, maybe I thought was actually flying? I would take off before I hit the ground, for sure.[/QUOTE] That ignores the issue posed in the article. Do what the fuck you want with your own life, but this man ended another person's life with his ignorance.

It's better to be a happy idiot, than a pissy preteen, because God isn't real and I've got to tell the world.

I wonder how long this is going to go.

[quote]Why see the big picture if it makes it all worse? I'm going to quote a cliche, ignorance is bliss. If I could stay an ignorant child forever I'd love to do so. I never had any worries, and magic was real to me. It was nice.[/quote] If everyone thought like this we would still be in caveman times. Magic isn't real, the sooner you realize this the sooner the world can become a better place through human innovation.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429975]It's better to be a happy idiot, than a pissy preteen, because God isn't real and I've got to tell the world.[/QUOTE] Better to kill someone a happy idiot, than save their life and think magic doesn't exist. Yep yep.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16429970]That ignores the issue posed in the article. Do what the fuck you want with your own life, but this man ended another person's life with his ignorance.[/QUOTE] Is it ignorance though? None of you can present to me proof. Show me God couldn't have helped her.

no body will say why theirs hundreds of religions and you have to choose based on human word because everybody knows that answer is fucking retarded. discuss

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429975]It's better to be a happy idiot, than a pissy preteen, because God isn't real and I've got to tell the world.[/QUOTE] No one here is being a pissy preteen. No, it isn't better being a happy idiot. It's pathetic. You can not grow, mature, get better, improve on the faults your ignorant of.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429975][B]It's better to be a happy idiot[/B], than a pissy preteen, because God isn't real and I've got to tell the world.[/QUOTE] Why? Because you can fulfill your own selfish happiness while the world doesn't improve for everyone else who is aware of what's going on?

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429994]Is it ignorance though? None of you can present to me proof. Show me God couldn't have helped her.[/QUOTE] Show me that God could have. The burden of proof isn't on us. It's on you, and anyways.. it's pretty much dead on that he didn't help. She died.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429994]Is it ignorance though? None of you can present to me proof. Show me God couldn't have helped her.[/QUOTE] Awful, awful, awful, attempt at justifying manslaughter. God has proven thus far he does nothing. Medicine has proven it works. If someone's life is in your hands, you do the one with at least a chance of succeeding.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16429994]Is it ignorance though? None of you can present to me proof. Show me God couldn't have helped her.[/QUOTE] God doesn't exist and thus cannot help anyone. Your move.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16429991]Better to kill someone a happy idiot, than save their life and think magic doesn't exist. Yep yep.[/QUOTE] Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely. [editline]02:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Kybalt;16430033]God doesn't exist and thus cannot help anyone. Your move.[/QUOTE] Prove science could have helped her.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely.[/QUOTE] I AM happy with myself and the world around me. You seem to have some conception of atheist as miserable bastards.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely.[/QUOTE] Please spell ATHEIST correctly. At least is two words. And no, life is completely pointless other then a meaning you can assign to it yourself.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely. [editline]02:21AM[/editline] Prove science could have helped her.[/QUOTE] Prove science could have helped her? Do you even think before you post?

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Prove science could have helped her.[/QUOTE] Go be skeptical somewhere else, Descartes.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely. [editline]02:21AM[/editline] [B]Prove science could have helped her.[/B][/QUOTE] [quote=The Article that you didn't read]During the trial, medical experts told the court that Neumann's daughter could have survived if she had received treatment, including insulin and fluids, before she stopped breathing.[/quote] .

If Descartes killed his daughter via neglect while he was busy being skeptical for a thought experiment I'd fucking kick his fucking ass.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430039]Really, if you're going to die an athiest atleast die happy with yourself, because according to you it won't matter anymore. When I die, I know I'll die happy with myself because, maybe god might save me. Or maybe I'll just stop being, completely.[/QUOTE] I am dying happy. I'm living happy, I feel better that I don't worry about what an imaginary sky daddy thinks of me. Maybe for your ridiculous fence sitting similar to pascals wager, God will send you to hell. I'm sure God appreciates honest skepticism more than careful bet hedging.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16430061]I AM happy with myself and the world around me. You seem to have some conception of atheist as miserable bastards.[/QUOTE] Well you're not quite jolly, and the funny thing is you preach against religion, but in doing so pick up the qualities of a religion in itself. Bigotry, organization, centralization. At this rate they'll have athiest churches!

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430087]Well you're not quite jolly, and the funny thing is you preach against religion, but in doing so pick up the qualities of a religion in itself. [B]Bigotry, organization, centralization[/B]. At this rate they'll have athiest churches![/QUOTE] Those are completely irrelevant to the issue.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430084]I am dying happy. I'm living happy, I feel better that I don't worry about what an imaginary sky daddy thinks of me. Maybe for your ridiculous fence sitting similar to pascals wager, God will send you to hell. I'm sure God appreciates honest skepticism more than careful bet hedging.[/QUOTE] Bet? I'm not betting. I'm not playing a gambling game. I'm living my life how I think is right, regardless of a God. Surely, god appreciates living without sin even if I don't want to participate in any of this jazz.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430087]Well you're not quite jolly, and the funny thing is you preach against religion, but in doing so pick up the qualities of a religion in itself. Bigotry, organization, centralization. At this rate they'll have athiest churches![/QUOTE] ...How is he bigoted? Organized? We aren't a group, and by nature can't be grouped or organized. We aren't centralized. One does not need to be jolly to be happy. One doesn't need to jump with joy that they're happy.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430087]Well you're not quite jolly,[/QUOTE] Maybe because unlike you, I'm not placid with the idea of people killing others with their own ignorance. If you believe there's an invisible bridge ahead of you, by all means, drive yourself off the cliff. When other people are riding in the car, however, you'd better stick to the fucking roads.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;16430098]Those are completely irrelevant to the issue.[/QUOTE] Well, then don't attack the issue with bigotry, because you're doing the same thing he did. Ignored another persons view on things.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430087]Bigotry...[/QUOTE] Yeah, those bastards, bigoted against criminal negligence.

[QUOTE=Jawalt;16430107]Bet? I'm not betting. I'm not playing a gambling game. I'm living my life how I think is right, regardless of a God. Surely, god appreciates living without sin even if I don't want to participate in any of this jazz.[/QUOTE] Living without sin? Have you eaten meat on a friday? Worked on a Saturday? Slept with someone out of wedlock? Performed sodomy on a woman? Idolized anything? Yeah, you haven't lived without sin, you just pick what you want to hear.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;16430127]Living without sin? Have you eaten meat on a friday? Worked on a Saturday?[B] Slept with someone[/B] out of wedlock? Performed sodomy on a woman? Idolized anything? Yeah, you haven't lived without sin, you just pick what you want to hear.[/QUOTE] Probably not.