North Korea ends non-agression pact, blowing up any South Korean propganda loudspeakers - Polidicks

Can we stop talking about nukes? Its obvious that in the event of war, no nukes will be used. Woah, I just thought of this. Since South Ossetia was attacked when the Beijing Olympics is going on, does this mean NK will attack during world cup? I know its a stupid idea.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22182196]Oh well, another 50 years of tax money wasted in a pointless war that could end in twelve minutes with nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] Good thing you're not in politics.

[QUOTE=angelangel;22191258]That's what everyone is thinking.[/QUOTE] man we are a bunch of bloodthirsty fuckers aren't we?

Australia here we comeeee.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22184642]Yes. I should stop simplifying reality to hypothetical scenarios.[/QUOTE] you spent too long copy'n'pasting shit off Atomic Rockets to do the same on post-nuclear political theory.

With all do respect to the Geneva Convention... Instead of using nuclear weapons why not just mass-carpet with napalm while were at it? No matter the war we still have to uphold to the Geneva Convention regarding,"No Nukes,No Napalm,No blah blah blag" The most [I]sane[/I] solution would be to run a landing force which land near the Yulu River ,and we block off any point of exit for NK. Then mass artillery barrage/carpet bomb on all NK cities near the SK border ,and begin pushing inland. Begin attacking/supplying on two fronts ,and crab claw them too the point they can't escape ,and force them to surrender. If they don't surrender? Use the most heaviest conventional bomb we can for mass carpet raiding. PS: Regarding earlier statements... If US joins the war... Canada,Australia,New Zeland,and Great Britain will most likely follow. Possibly even Mexico.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22191638]With all do respect to the Geneva Convention... Instead of using nuclear weapons why not just mass-carpet with napalm while were at it? No matter the war we still have to uphold to the Geneva Convention regarding,"No Nukes,No Napalm,No blah blah blag" The most [I]sane[/I] solution would be to run a landing force which land near the Yulu River ,and we block off any point of exit for NK. Then mass artillery barrage/carpet bomb on all NK cities near the SK border ,and begin pushing inland. Begin attacking/supplying on two fronts ,and crab claw them too the point they can't escape ,and force them to surrender. If they don't surrender? Use the most heaviest conventional bomb we can for mass carpet raiding. PS: Regarding earlier statements... If US joins the war... Canada,Australia,New Zeland,and Great Britain will most likely follow. Possibly even Mexico.[/QUOTE] Mexicans fighting Koreans... It just sounds... wrong. But cool at the same time.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22191638]PS: Regarding earlier statements... If US joins the war... Canada,Australia,New Zeland,and Great Britain will most likely follow. Possibly even Mexico.[/QUOTE] Technically, since only a cease fire was ever called, if fighting was to recommence then all those originally involved in the Korean War would be obliged to join in.

If NK attacks, they're buttfucked, we can all agree.

Nuke each other already

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22191638]With all do respect to the Geneva Convention... Instead of using nuclear weapons why not just mass-carpet with napalm while were at it? No matter the war we still have to uphold to the Geneva Convention regarding,"No Nukes,No Napalm,No blah blah blag" The most [I]sane[/I] solution would be to run a landing force which land near the Yulu River ,and we block off any point of exit for NK. Then mass artillery barrage/carpet bomb on all NK cities near the SK border ,and begin pushing inland. Begin attacking/supplying on two fronts ,and crab claw them too the point they can't escape ,and force them to surrender. If they don't surrender? Use the most heaviest conventional bomb we can for mass carpet raiding.[/QUOTE] Thanks for that Five Star General Lee Armchair.

Shit's going down. Can't wait to get out there.

If the British and US were to get involved... I'd feel sorry for the people of Afghanistan. If the coalition there were to pull out due to bigger politics, there's no way that the ANA would be able to hold off the taliban and the foreign taliban on their own.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22191638]blablabla If US joins the war... Canada,Australia,New Zeland,and Great Britain will most likely follow. Possibly even Mexico.[/QUOTE] What about germany?

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22193051]If the British and US were to get involved... I'd feel sorry for the people of Afghanistan. If the coalition there were to pull out due to bigger politics, there's no way that the ANA would be able to hold off the taliban and the foreign taliban on their own.[/QUOTE] British policy, at least, is to not bugger off out of a country after we have invaded it. The situation we are in now is not significantly different to that which was faced after WWII - except replace Germany with Afghanistan, the USSR with the Taliban and North Korea with... North Korea.

[QUOTE=MadMaxJ;22193137]What about germany?[/QUOTE] Hm... They [I]possibly[/I] could become involved as well as Japan ,but I'm unsure on how alliances between both the US ,and Germany go with military works.

It's not like the entire British military is occupied with Afghanistan. Only a few months ago there was a pretty significant build up of forces in the Falklands, sent there for "training exercises" while the Agrentinians were chatting shit about our oil again. Most of the components used in a conventional war, MBTs, air superiority fighters, heavy artillery etc aren't being used in Afghanistan. We only use light artillery, mortars and light vehicles over there, which we have plenty more of going spare. The only things that would be lacking are helicopters, we don't even have enough for Afghanistan, never mind a conventional war aswell. If a war did break out and the UK was involved it would be up to the government to decide which conflict is more important. If there really is a chance that a nuclear threat from NK could reach western shores then I guess the answer is obvious.

Since the North Korea clearly has nuclear ordinance, trying to win NK with conventional means would mean huge casualties. Not from an actual combat, but when the united forces of SK, USA (and possible wa-I mean Japanese) are closing in to the capital of NK, the dear leader sees that big pretty red button quite intimating. And leaves with a blast

I can't believe you guys are even thinking about nukes being a good idea.

Surely we can just hire assassins to kill all the people with power in Nkorea.

[QUOTE=radioactive;22193585]Surely we can just hire assassins to kill all the people with power in Nkorea.[/QUOTE] And let's call on the magical unicorn people for help while we're at it. If that was an option we would have done it by now. North Korea is impenetrable to any agent wishing to get in to snoop around, never mind shoot up some government officials. Their leader is almost never seen by anyone other than his personal elite uber-fanatic guards and selected members of the government.

Any of you think if we corner North Korea that Kim Jong-Il will be stupid enough to go for a "If i'm going out, i'm taking you all with me." tactic and detonate his nuclear devices? Or is that far fetched?

The man is so batshit crazy it's a possibility. But he'll most likely take a run for some distant country in exile.

Title is misleading, as if the NK already blew them up. But the article doesn't say anything about it.

Clearly, American military intervention is necessary. :911:

[QUOTE=MadMaxJ;22193137]What about germany?[/QUOTE] Germany usually doesn't want to get involved in shit. Last time we did something (A single attack with 2 jets) there were discussions about it being "wrong?" for like 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=Maurice;22195479]Germany usually doesn't want to get involved in shit. Last time we did something (A single attack with 2 jets) there were discussions about it being "wrong?" for like 2 weeks.[/QUOTE] I don't know what you're talking about, Germany is actively involved in Afghanistan and helped with Iraq both during the 2003 invasion and in 91, they honor their commitments as a NATO ally alot, Regardless, this is a pretty scary situation that could effect all of us, I personally don't want to see world war 3 start up, but if it does, maybe we can arrange a facepunch meeting in the DMZ if we have to go smack Kim jong il around. but in all seriousness, this could be the start of a major war the likes of which we haven't seen since... well..Korea... This isn't gonna be something that's is just going to be Americans involved, like someone said earlier the war technically never ended, alot of nations are involved, and I really think the world is fed up with the regime there, so commitment of forces from the original UN nations wouldn't surprise me. I just pray china sits this one out.

You needn't worry. As many have pointed out, there's too much at stake for them to just side with NK.

[QUOTE=Maurice;22195479]Germany usually doesn't want to get involved in shit. Last time we did something (A single attack with 2 jets) there were discussions about it being "wrong?" for like 2 weeks.[/QUOTE] Do you mean the oil tanker thing? I mean, WHAT THE FUCK!!! What are kids doing on a stolen oil tanker at night [b]WITH TALIBAN[/b]. They were human shields, and how it seems, it went how the Taliban wanted it. Our airstrike killed ca.100 persons. How many soldiers would have died if it had crashed into our camp? More. A lot more. And then a Colonel gets fired for it. Fuck it.

I wonder what will happen that for example the military has been killed and there's no superpower anymore in NK. Kim is dead and so are his army. But what will happen to the civillians? They honor Kim as a god and they are extremely loyal to him. What will they do?