• Putin takes a shit on the concept of 'American Exceptionalism', makes Congressman nauseated
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[QUOTE=Falchion;42175613]I don't think how simply higher gas prices could ever cause europe to "fall apart" after the great cooperation that's been going on for decades. the current recession is apparently showing signs of ending which foresees an even more positive attitude between nations in the near future. edit: also i disagree about the newsroom comment too.[/QUOTE] We've also seen them try to one up each other nor tackle any of the serious issues like racism against African Migrants and the Roma people. But as of right now, oil drives every economy in the world, fact. Also, he is a moron when he mentions believing in Angels, the middle east has us down pat on that since Angels exist in the fucking Quran. He consistently shows that he doesn't pay attention until it involves him, he almost like the parody of the libertarian United States. Heart is sometimes in the right place, but only when it matters to him. [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=gangleider;42176078]a what.[/QUOTE] A protestant branch that's very open and welcoming. Most churches can double as mosques or synagogues. We support the LGBT community and accept ministers of any race, gender, and sexuality. I also joke that you can believe in what the fuck you want, as long as you hang with us, its cool bro.
[QUOTE=Swilly;42176749]We've also seen them try to one up each other nor tackle any of the serious issues like racism against African Migrants and the Roma people. But as of right now, oil drives every economy in the world, fact. [/QUOTE] syrian oil isn't all oil, middle-eastern oil is lots of oil but not all of oil. eu might act together to secure more oil but probably not against eachother and most likely that action will be trade, if everyone in eu is out of oil there's no one to take it from. racism is again a vocal minority thing, brits especially are bitching hardcore. Harsh enough hate speech is a crime already in lots of countries, the best we can do in that regard is waiting for the better half of the financial cycle (stops atleast 80 percent of all bitching, low unemployment wont breed radicals) and keep offering courses to improve language and culture knowgledge among refugees. racism in europe is not more extensive than in the united states. i don't even know what "one upping eachother" means and how it's aggression. also i regard the main message in that newsroom clip that usa is not number one in everything even though nationalists like to believe. not that us sucks in everything like you said. [QUOTE=Swilly;42176749] Also, he is a moron when he mentions believing in Angels, the middle east has us down pat on that since Angels exist in the fucking Quran. [/QUOTE] what the fuck?
That's fine, the entire concept of american exceptionalism makes me nauseated.
[QUOTE=Swilly;42168155]You actually don't realize how very little most Americans give a flying fuck about Religion. We don't have time for it.[/QUOTE] "me and my high school buds aren't religious so probably no one is!"
[quote]He concluded with the line, "We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."[/quote] Except for the gays.
Hey USA, here's an idea... Instead of deciding for yourself which countries should be liberated, how about you decide together with all the other countries in the world? Like you know, a democracy? You'd be surprised by how many countries in the world would prefer if the US just didn't give a shit.
[QUOTE=Falchion;42178548]syrian oil isn't all oil, middle-eastern oil is lots of oil but not all of oil. eu might act together to secure more oil but probably not against eachother and most likely that action will be trade, if everyone in eu is out of oil there's no one to take it from. racism is again a vocal minority thing, brits especially are bitching hardcore. Harsh enough hate speech is a crime already in lots of countries, the best we can do in that regard is waiting for the better half of the financial cycle (stops atleast 80 percent of all bitching, low unemployment wont breed radicals) and keep offering courses to improve language and culture knowgledge among refugees. racism in europe is not more extensive than in the united states. i don't even know what "one upping eachother" means and how it's aggression. also i regard the main message in that newsroom clip that usa is not number one in everything even though nationalists like to believe. not that us sucks in everything like you said. what the fuck?[/QUOTE] One of the lines blasting the US for being #1 in believing in angels? I'm fairly certain the Middle East would have that title since its got all 3 religions that branch from the same story mentioning Angels. (He also proves to be an idiot later on, but that's another story.) [editline]13th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FPChris;42184334]Hey USA, here's an idea... Instead of deciding for yourself which countries should be liberated, how about you decide together with all the other countries in the world? Like you know, a democracy? You'd be surprised by how many countries in the world would prefer if the US just didn't give a shit.[/QUOTE] Oh hey, you mean like the UN, which does sod all because the dictators don't feel like getting kicked out. Totally works bro.
A dose of reality made a US congressman sick That's quite poetic, and it says a lot
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42166510]America is #1 at everything, including freedom is a widely held belief by a lot, unfortunately. I'm supposed to be joining the air force soon and all this Syria talk has me uneasy[/QUOTE] We have bases all around the Mediterranean (Aviano, Italy? :D) So I'd highly doubt you'd be in their country or something. Like if you did maintenance you'd likely be at a base somewhere in Europe sending jets to bomb the fuck out of their targets.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42168935]weird how being a vocal christian is a near requirement in a lot of areas then[/QUOTE] You mean running for office? if that then yeah
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42168741]so it's kind of a catch 22 situation; do you side with the corrupt oligarchy that knowingly sells weapons to a genocidal regime because money's money, or do you side with the country that thinks it can fix delicate situations with a sledgehammer because of some blind faith that everything it stands for is automatically right?[/QUOTE] you don't have to pick a side to be able to say that the other one is doing something bad american exceptionalism is a silly idea and american foreign policy is pretty questionable; at the same time the russian government is corrupt as shit and is doing rather awful things these things are all true and being against one doesn't automatically make you pro-other one
Seeing yourself as 'exceptional' is incredibly self-centered and egotistical. If you're really doing exceptional things, you probably won't even give a shit because you'll be enjoying what you're doing more than the praise you receive for it.
american exceptionalism is like the mcdonalds fat & dumb version of nationalism
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BlIW6hY.png[/IMG] #rude
[QUOTE=anis;42190134][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BlIW6hY.png[/IMG] #rude[/QUOTE] Oh no somebody might shatter her delicately held belief.
[QUOTE=Swilly;42169693]You do realize the Newsroom, that entire scene was actually making fun of all the people who say the US has completely gone to shit, right? The main character, that guy between the two is a massive fucking moron.[/QUOTE] Uh no dude it was his character defining moment and he doesn't really come around the entire show. It could also be soarkins personal frustration at this exceptionalism shit. And you know what most of it is bitingly true. Its not anti america its just a small dose of reality.
[QUOTE=mchapra;42190193]Uh no dude it was his character defining moment and he doesn't really come around the entire show. It could also be soarkins personal frustration at this exceptionalism shit. And you know what most of it is bitingly true. Its not anti america its just a small dose of reality.[/QUOTE] That scene is a painfully cringey attempt at making older americans feel better about themselves and bemoan the current generations for fucking everything up. Apparently. Its not a dose of reality because it implies that America was ever a world leader in any of those things he suggests. "America used to be great and #1 and super exceptional, now look what you've done" no lmao America is better now than it ever has been, its just that americans are slowly realizing that compared to the rest of the world maybe they're not exceptional and feel the need to make teary cheap drama about it.
I would too be nauseated if someone took a shit in front of me.
it's funny how this discussion is being made between leaders of two countries that once both heartily contributed to ruining other places by promoting their own ideological interests (and working against the interests of their opponents) during the cold war
[QUOTE=Medevilae;42184041]Americans do not believe they are better than other peoples. If you doubt this, you need only look at Congress. If we really thought we were superior, is there any chance we would choose them to represent us? There are exceptions — we think we are better than Canadians, for example, but please don’t tell them, because they’re awfully nice — but generally we accept that all countries have their strengths. We know, for example, that Russians are better than us at producing delicacies such as caviar and dioxin. (Kidding!) When we say we are exceptional, what we really are saying is we are different. With few exceptions, we are all strangers to our land; our families came from all corners of the world and brought all of its colors, religions and languages. We believe this mixing, together with our free society, has produced generations of creative energy and ingenuity, from the Declaration of Independence to Facebook, from Thomas Jefferson to Miley Cyrus. There is no other country quite like that. Americans aren’t better than others, but our American experience is unique — exceptional — and it has created the world’s most powerful economy and military, which, more often than not, has been used for good in the world. When you question American exceptionalism, you will find little support from any of us, liberals or conservatives, Democrats or Republicans, doves or hawks.[/QUOTE] The thing is, though, that all that crap isn't unique to America; it's a testament to ignorance if people genuinely believe that other countries are all composed of one race. There's little to make any country exceptional.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42168935]weird how being a vocal christian is a near requirement in a lot of areas then[/QUOTE] Only if you're a republican and your reelection's at stake because some far-right twentysomething stole most of your votes. That's usually what tends to inspire that kind of zealous bigotry in our government. Outside of politics and certain churches I've never heard of any widespread hatred of nonchristians within a community.
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