• Open letter to parents of League of Legends players released
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[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47149739]You seriously just went through the "nerds" route? Really? You're in a fucking gaming forum, one would expect you to have more brains than this but your sad spectacle has revealed that those sorts of expectations are too fucking high.[/QUOTE] you're getting pretty worked up about someone using nerd in a pretty harmless way [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] instead, try actually replying to his point
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;47149477]but he's not saying a parent shouldn't care about games, he's saying that you shouldn't expect them to, games aren't as big of a deal as a lot of gamers would like to think[/QUOTE] So the principal of the matter is meaningless? I disagree. Sure the parents don't have to care about games, but they should care about the lesson they teach their child about time management and about respecting other people's time as well as the lesson learned about how little or how much their personal interests are important , regardless of the interest
I think the relationship between games and parenting will be more like this in our generation when raising our kids. Very interesting, though. Social change in action!
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47149739]You seriously just went through the "nerds" route? Really? You're in a fucking gaming forum, one would expect you to have more brains than this but your sad spectacle has revealed that those sorts of expectations are too fucking high.[/QUOTE] You can like video games without being a total mouth breather fyi.
Teaching your kid time management is one thing, and perfectly great! Go ahead and say "I told you bed time is bed time now stop playin' games." It's also perfectly okay to say "Hey normally I'd say bedtime mister but you're in the middle of something". But it's ridiculous if you think "BOBBY! GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND TAKE OUT THE TRASH RRRRRRRIGHT NOW! *pulls extention cords*" is acceptable. I mean sure, you can do it, but that's pretty unreasonable, don't you think?
[QUOTE=Eeshton;47135121] I am almost positive what would happen is people would bully the worst person on their team (blame game) into leaving since it's "their fault" that their team is losing. I've seen people bully others into leaving without this system even in place, so I feel this would only encourage it.[/QUOTE] I have only seen that happen once in all my time of playing Dota 2.
Wow, some of the posters in this thread made me realize just how much I appreciate my parents.
oh my god if you take video games this seriously you are beyond saving
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;47148772]If I own something I have the right to use it whenever I want. That's the right of having ownership. Would I go out of my way to be a dick and kick my kid off the computer? No, but if I desire for whatever reason to do it I have no obligation to back down because some 9 other random ass nerds might lose some virtual reputation.[/QUOTE] Yo man it's pretty obvious you've never played team sports. Maybe you should. It promotes this thing called "thinking about others". It's pretty great.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;47151355]Yo man it's pretty obvious you've never played team sports. Maybe you should. It promotes this thing called "thinking about others". It's pretty great.[/QUOTE] I don't think he's capable of thinking about anything that is not him. All his posts read "me me me I'm important guys"
this entire thread is filled with adolescents and young adults pretending they know how to raise a child lmfao
[QUOTE=Melnek;47151524]this entire thread is filled with adolescents and young adults pretending they know how to raise a child lmfao[/QUOTE] Good thing you included yourself in that or you'd look foolish
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;47151355]Yo man it's pretty obvious you've never played team sports. Maybe you should. It promotes this thing called "thinking about others". It's pretty great.[/QUOTE] I'm a Hospital Corpsman I think I got the teamwork and empathy thing down pat. Although what I do is just a [i]little[/i] bit more serious than an online video game so maybe that's where the disconnect comes from.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;47151284]oh my god if you take video games this seriously you are beyond saving[/QUOTE] Uh huh. And what do you mean by "beyond saving"? Please go ahead and spout some worthless generalization or baseless assumption to back that up.
[quote]If a game is in progress, do not interrupt it unless it is an emergency.[/quote] lol
This is less an issue of games, and more communication and responsibility. If you enter a game that's going to last an hour, you better fucking check that nothing avoidable is going to come up or it's 100% your fault. When I was younger, I made an agreement with my parents that if I was given 15 minutes heads-up, I would do any chore/task/whatever with absolutely no arguing or whining. Needless to say, it solved all the conflict I ever had because the games I played rarely lasted longer than 15 minutes. And at the end of the day, a game's a game. I don't care how competitive it is, if I'm not playing for actual stakes and not just stupid statistics, I will drop it if something even remotely important comes up. Life > Games.
[QUOTE=Doom14;47171413]When I was younger, I made an agreement with my parents that if I was given 15 minutes heads-up, I would do any chore/task/whatever with absolutely no arguing or whining. Needless to say, it solved all the conflict I ever had because the games I played rarely lasted longer than 15 minutes.[/QUOTE] The reason that works is because you recognize your parents have all the power to decide. They decide whether to command you to do something or not, the 'importance' of what they want is not even a consideration. That's the key element others aren't accepting for some reason, no kid gets to overrule the parent because the parent's request is not 'important' compared to what the kid thinks is important. The kid will lose that argument every time.
[QUOTE=Melnek;47151524]this entire thread is filled with adolescents and young adults pretending they know how to raise a child lmfao[/QUOTE] What's wrong with saying that parents should treat their children as human beings rather than something to have absolute control over?
I would prefer my child to be doing something way better with their time than playing this garbage.
No good parent is going to give a fuck about the kid's game, nor should he or she. Pro-tip: if you care so much about winning the damn game, play together with a team of adult friends instead of random strangers. Alternatively, don't let children play ranked matches. LoL's community is so shit that kids should probably stay away from it anyways.
If you're young enough to have a nonnegotiable bedtime maybe you shouldn't be playing overly competitive games in the first place. I remember I used to have to get off the PC within like a five-minute notice if my parents needed to check an email or something so I had a pretty simple solution: check with other people in your house that the time you need will not be interrupted. If not, then don't play something you can't drop easily.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;47151719]I'm a Hospital Corpsman I think I got the teamwork and empathy thing down pat. Although what I do is just a [i]little[/i] bit more serious than an online video game so maybe that's where the disconnect comes from.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=itisjuly;47151466]I don't think he's capable of thinking about anything that is not him. All his posts read "me me me I'm important guys"[/QUOTE] Whaddya, know you were right.
Offcause if it's Hearthstone you force the child to concede. I've got late to bed so many times because i keep losing, when i need a win to finish the quest.
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This letter is overall a bit silly, but I think if you swapped LoL for Football, suddenly more people would see it as perfectly reasonable. You wouldn't drag your kid out of a sport mid-match.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;47148772]If I own something I have the right to use it whenever I want. That's the right of having ownership. Would I go out of my way to be a dick and kick my kid off the computer? No, but if I desire for whatever reason to do it I have no obligation to back down because some 9 other random ass nerds might lose some virtual reputation.[/QUOTE] That is an [B]extremely[/B] short sighted view of seeing things. This is an opportunity to teach your child time management and responsibility to others (both strangers and their parents). Instead you offer "IT'S MY COMPUTER GET OFF". Don't bother attempting to communicate, just tell them how it is. Yep, that's going to grow a healthy child. [QUOTE=IrishBandit;47179102]This letter is overall a bit silly, but I think if you swapped LoL for Football, suddenly more people would see it as perfectly reasonable. You wouldn't drag your kid out of a sport mid-match.[/QUOTE] Watch as dozens of posters now shit on you for saying this as if a game of football somehow has more meaning than a game of LoL. [QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;47124490]By that logic, the child should not be pressing agree because they and their computer use are at the mercy of the whims of their parents. If this was an open letter to kids telling them not to play unless they are sure they can play through the match [I]that would make sense.[/I] Instead, this letter was written by someone who somehow thinks parents should change because their kid wants to play a videogame and the kids team mates dont want him to leave. News Flash, parents dont give a shit about their kids videogame obligations. They give a shit about parenting their children. And if that means jimmy has to get off the computer early tonight because he didn't finish his chores, then thats too fucking bad for his teammates. Jimmy shouldn't have agreed to a 1 hour game. /rant[/QUOTE] Lucky for you to have such reasonable parents. Not everyone can expect their parents to act in a predictable or rational fashion. I have a guy in my Warframe clan whose mother calls him out to do just about everything that could ever need doing. I'm surprised she doesn't make him wipe her ass. And if he doesn't respond within 2.6 seconds, the internet gets shut off. It's at the point that nobody in the clan wants to play with him because they're afraid he will have to bail midgame. He is constantly forced to play alone through no fault of his own. When I lived at home, my parents told us what time dinner was, what chores had to be done that day, and let us figure it out. Should any special situations arise we were given as much notice as possible, usually in the 15-30 minute range. Why did they do this? Because that's how you treat adults.. You don't micromanage their time, you teach them how to manage their time and then you let them sort it out. If they shirk their responsibilities or mismanage their time, then you take care of it. "IT'S MY COMPUTER GET OFF IT NOW" is not a realistic event in the real-world.
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