[QUOTE=The Baconator;37594568]well duh if you go to such low levels of course it matters
but what coporation would release a smartphone with a 20KHz cpu?[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep dodging my request to see the battery comparison that apparently makes the 4S have higher battery life? :v:
Oh and that's the entire point of an exaggeration, obviously they're not going to release a 20kHZ CPU, the point is that specs do matter, and while software can help compensate for that by being written efficiently that only helps to a point. Saying that the specs don't matter is legitimately crazy.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;37594334]If you display a completely white screen on your GNex, do you get a green line down the left side of the screen where the larger green subpixel is?
And a weird checker board effect around the edges of your display due to the missing subpixel?[/QUOTE]
I brought out one of my engineering magnifiers and I was able to pretty clearly see the sub-pixels, there is a bit of a green line but it was kinda hard to see without the magnifier even with 20/20 vision
Couldn't really see a checkerboard pattern.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37594121]well it sure isn't enough
and PPI matters more than res anyways, my galaxy nexus isn't as high PPI as a 4S, even if it's screen res is all super high anyways
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
heck does the GSIII still use pentile screens? if so it's actually inferior to the 4S still, [URL="http://gizmodo.com/5851806/why-the-galaxy-nexus-720p-screen-might-not-be-all-its-cracked-up-to-be"]since it uses 2 subpixels instead of one[/URL]
[URL="http://www.mobot.net/samsung-galaxy-iii-20-million-sold-worldwide-47153"]yep the gsIII still does[/URL]
typical, try to have the best res and ppi at all costs, even if it means lower [I]actual[/I] quality[/QUOTE]
I seriously don't see why you would need a 'retina' display on a fucking phone
do you hold your phone right up to your eyeballs?!
It's not like you gain any workspace with iOS either, because of forced scaling
[QUOTE=Elspin;37594627]Why do you keep dodging my request to see the battery comparison that apparently makes the 4S have higher battery life? :v:
Oh and that's the entire point of an exaggeration, obviously they're not going to release a 20kHZ CPU, the point is that specs do matter, and while software can help compensate for that by being written efficiently that only helps to a point. Saying that the specs don't matter is legitimately crazy.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
I brought out one of my engineering magnifiers and I was able to pretty clearly see the sub-pixels, there is a bit of a green line but it was kinda hard to see without the magnifier even with 20/20 vision
Couldn't really see a checkerboard pattern.[/QUOTE]
Just checked, no green line nor checkerboard visible on my phone.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37594699]Just checked, no green line nor checkerboard visible on my phone.[/QUOTE]
Open Google Books, swipe all the way to the right and focus hard on the left of the screen. You'll probably need to hold it at a perfect angle and use a magnifying glass unless you have reallllly good vision.
[QUOTE=Elspin;37594747]Open Google Books, swipe all the way to the right and focus hard on the left of the screen. You'll probably need to hold it at a perfect angle and use a magnifying glass unless you have reallllly good vision.[/QUOTE]
Not available where I live :saddowns:
I used the invert colors thing on chrome's landing page, still couldn't see anything. I didn't use a magnifying glass though.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37592662]well if you read my post I said that Apple actually makes effective spec changes, apparently even with the SGIII having a high res display that isn't enough to make high res apps
see what I mean? Who cares about hypothetical stuff, I want actual stuff, and Apple has the actual stuff
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
I care about real world performance not "Oh you see the SGIII has the potential but never will get it because of OS fragmentation, Google not being strict enough and being some passive fuck, and devs won't do it"[/QUOTE]
I honestly can't tell whether you're saying I'm right or not. If you care about "real-world performance" - get a SGSIII. If you care about consistently good apps, get an iPhone.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37594395]but the 4S has the standard 3 subpixels but gets better battery life than the G Nexus :suicide:[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't see how taking away one pixel would increase battery life so substantially that Samsung would leave it out of the SGSIII. The real reason is most probably either production costs or production difficulty. And whether it's Pentile or not, it's a fucking great display. I've never met anyone that didn't know that it was pentile actually complain about online or not - and GSMarena agrees: [url]http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p2.php[/url]
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37594568]well duh if you go to such low levels of course it matters
but what coporation would release a smartphone with a 20KHz cpu?[/QUOTE]
Specs [I]do[/I] matter - software just means just as much. Now, what brings the best web experience; the SGSIII or the iPhone 4S? Well, the SGSIII of course, simply because it has the hardware to churn through the data that much faster. I would also argue that the large display enhances the experience, but I digress.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37594483]uh specs don't matter with phones, remember? iOS is custom tailored to a few sets of hardware, the OS is built with the limitations in mind
Android is not very well optimized[/QUOTE]
The Android UI may not be very well optmized, but the OS isn't nearly as bloated as it's made out to be.
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Elspin;37594449]Well, both versions of the Galaxy Nexus have a higher capacity battery than the 4S AFAIK so that would be bizarre. What comparison shows the 4S having better battery life?[/QUOTE]
The SGSIII uses a 4.8" display and a pretty powerful CPU - the juice is going somewhere.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;37594950]The SGSIII uses a 4.8" display and a pretty powerful CPU - the juice is going somewhere.[/QUOTE]
My post said Galaxy Nexus, not Galaxy S3.
Phone battery life depends on a lot of things.
My iPhone 4 can easily last (and has on several occasions) 2 days with pretty regular text messaging and the occasional song or two. I also bought it used.
I could load it up with a bunch of more shit and have to charge it every 12 hours.
The thing is that all smartphones are equivalent now. All new phones have high ppi screens with multicolor processors, enough ram, and a large enough battery to usually run all day.
I hope that one day we won't have to argue about it anymore. iOS 6, Jelly Bean, and Windows Phone 8 are all equally efficient.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37594675]I seriously don't see why you would need a 'retina' display on a fucking phone
do you hold your phone right up to your eyeballs?!
It's not like you gain any workspace with iOS either, because of forced scaling[/QUOTE]
uh my sisters' 4S looks leagues better than my galaxy nexus, pixel density yo, it makes a huge difference
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Elspin;37594627]Why do you keep dodging my request to see the battery comparison that apparently makes the 4S have higher battery life? :v:
[/QUOTE]
I've been following the galaxy nexus since before it came out, so I do remember all the reviews of it saying the biggest downside was that it's battery life was horrid, especially while web browsing
I have owned mine since the first month it came out IIRC, currently run a custom rom of JellyBean before anyone comes in and says I don't know how nice it is
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37595583]uh my sisters' 4S looks leagues better than my galaxy nexus, pixel density yo, it makes a huge difference
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
I've been following the galaxy nexus since before it came out, so I do remember all the reviews of it saying the biggest downside was that it's battery life was horrid, especially while web browsing
I have owned mine since the first month it came out IIRC, currently run a custom rom of JellyBean before anyone comes in and says I don't know how nice it is[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's the reason there are so many extended batteries for the Nexus and really none for the iPhone
[QUOTE=itisjuly;37593427]Windows is not the only thing microsoft profits from. I don't even think it profits that much from direct sales. It's mainly OEM and businesses.[/QUOTE]
And they probably don't sell anything that costs as much as an iPhone in mass either.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37595583]uh my sisters' 4S looks leagues better than my galaxy nexus, pixel density yo, it makes a huge difference
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
I've been following the galaxy nexus since before it came out, so I do remember all the reviews of it saying the biggest downside was that it's battery life was horrid, especially while web browsing
I have owned mine since the first month it came out IIRC, currently run a custom rom of JellyBean before anyone comes in and says I don't know how nice it is[/QUOTE]
Comparing a top of the line level to a mid level smartphone is not an equal comparison
Compare it to an SGSIII and now you can say something
Personally, higher pixel density means fuck all. It's all about how this pixels are used.
I have a 2560x2048 display right beside a 1680x1050 display and I can [I]barely[/I] tell the difference between the two 'smoothness' wise.
It's all about workspace, and to put a higher resolution to use you need a larger screen.
[editline]9th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=dass;37596359]And they probably don't sell anything that costs as much as an iPhone in mass either.[/QUOTE]
They will be soon, though.
Funny how a phone can outsell a whole company that sells phones, software, consoles, and games. But when you compare it, the iPhone is sells for something like $600 retail, while the highest you pay for a microsoft product might be $400 for a console bundle. Apple products themselves cost more than average and they rake in the dosh when someone buys one.
[QUOTE]Compare it to an SGSIII and now you can say something
[/QUOTE]
that wouldn't be fair since the SGIII is the competitor to the unreleased iPhone 5
[QUOTE]I have a 2560x2048 display right beside a 1680x1050 display and I can barely tell the difference between the two 'smoothness' wise.
[/QUOTE]
it's pixel density isn't good enough then, heck pixel density on monitor's, while better than TV pixel density, are far behind tablet and smartphone pixel densities
[quote]iPhone is worth more than all of Microsoft.[/quote]
Alright! So where do I exchange my iPhone for the entirety of Microsoft?
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;37596533]the highest you pay for a microsoft product might be $400 for a console bundle.[/QUOTE]
wow not even true at all
most users of Microsoft are businesses and companies, and they buy licenses in bulk which can cost a lot of money
that's how Adobe earns its money too
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37596649]that wouldn't be fair since the SGIII is the competitor to the unreleased iPhone 5
it's pixel density isn't good enough then, heck pixel density on monitor's, while better than TV pixel density, are far behind tablet and smartphone pixel densities[/QUOTE]
It's still so opinion based that it can't be legitimately used as an argument for or against the phone itself, so we should stop the whole retina discussion here
The screen on the 4S seriously is [i]not as good as some people make it out to be[/i]. It might seem cool and all at first but it gets old fast.
Not saying it isn't nice to have, though. But it isn't anything special.
[QUOTE=person11;37595446]I hope that one day we won't have to argue about it anymore.[/QUOTE]
Never going to happen.
The human race is a species that argues about which way the toilet paper roll is supposed to go.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37596927]wow not even true at all
most users of Microsoft are businesses and companies, and they buy licenses in bulk which can cost a lot of money
that's how Adobe earns its money too[/QUOTE]
Microsoft make a fortune off of schools especially.
Licensing the Office packages, Windows itself, Other Microsoft packages...
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37596400]Comparing a top of the line level to a mid level smartphone is not an equal comparison
Compare it to an SGSIII and now you can say something[/QUOTE]
Uhh did you just call the Galaxy Nexus mid level and the sgs3 "top of the line"
sorry about you being wrong. galaxy nexus is the only android phone worth considering.
enjoy your shitty outdated samsung branded ICS
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;37596696]Alright! So where do I exchange my iPhone for the entirety of Microsoft?[/QUOTE]
the entire iPhone product line is worth more than Microsoft, so if you own every single iPhone in the world, sell them all on eBay and buy 100% of MSFT stock
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;37596207]Yeah, that's the reason there are so many extended batteries for the Nexus and really none for the iPhone[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's because you can't change the battery in the iphone
[QUOTE=thisispain;37587444]hehe ignorant masses buying *consumer product A*
we *consumer product B* people, we're the intelligent ones here[/QUOTE]
it might take a bit of alcohol to truly appreciate, but you say pretty agreeable things
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;37599580]it might take a bit of alcohol to truly appreciate, but you say pretty agreeable things[/QUOTE]
that's a coincidence, because it usually takes a bit of alcohol to say those agreeable things
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37595583]uh my sisters' 4S looks leagues better than my galaxy nexus, pixel density yo, it makes a huge difference
[editline]8th September 2012[/editline]
I've been following the galaxy nexus since before it came out, so I do remember all the reviews of it saying the biggest downside was that it's battery life was horrid, especially while web browsing
I have owned mine since the first month it came out IIRC, currently run a custom rom of JellyBean before anyone comes in and says I don't know how nice it is[/QUOTE]
i can't even read anything off of the iPhone's screen, it's so tiny it's ridiculous. i really can not see how you'd even think the screen on the 4s looks better.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;37597742]Uhh did you just call the Galaxy Nexus mid level and the sgs3 "top of the line"
sorry about you being wrong. galaxy nexus is the only android phone worth considering.
enjoy your shitty outdated samsung branded ICS[/QUOTE]
I will, but I honestly can't enjoy your shitty posts. TouchWiz may very well be an annoyance, but I've tried my friend's SGSIII a lot of times, and it's far from terrible. Earlier TouchWiz iterations were pretty bad, but this is actually verging on "fairly good". The GNexus is of course a very nice phone as well, with the major point of frequent OS updates, but overall the SGSIII is a faster phone.
[QUOTE=Squad;37583893]Since Apple isn't actually changing the iPhone... I am sure the mass of people that buy them will realize they are getting shafted and quit buying it until they release something worthwhile...[/QUOTE]
So I guess spending money on a phone that you like that does the things you want to do quite well is getting shafted.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37599735]i can't even read anything off of the iPhone's screen[/QUOTE]
that's not normal.
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