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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42347290]Would there be "wants" defined as unnecessary and therefore banned or restricted?[/QUOTE] doesnt matter, in a system such as that, providing needs for everyone, including those unwilling to produce raw goods (or those providing a service) will mean that luxury goods simply will not exist no one will be making cell phones because they will not gain anything in return besides the same items they would get for paving a road or sitting at home the anarchist argument is rooted in the belief that people will innovate for the sake of innovation and somehow gain the supplies to do so easily, and this simply is not the case [editline]29th September 2013[/editline] anarchy favors small groups of those who know eachother on a first name basis, and communities that do not seek technological or scientific innovation
[QUOTE=Loriborn;42347332] the anarchist argument is rooted in the belief that people will innovate for the sake of innovation and somehow gain the supplies to do so easily, and this simply is not the case [/QUOTE] lmao this is the history of mankind. people have innovated for the sake of innovation since before civilization. and if we won't have cell phones without wage slavery then maybe we don't deserve cell phones.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42347361]and if we won't have cell phones without wage slavery then maybe we don't deserve cell phones.[/QUOTE]Who are you to decide what people deserve?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42347361]and if we won't have cell phones without wage slavery then maybe we don't deserve cell phones.[/QUOTE] lol and this mentality is why anarchy will never work people like shiny things and will always like shiny things (luxury goods of all kinds) newsflash: people will not willingly give up luxury goods so a stranger can make end's meat; and the people making luxury goods are going to want more in return for making their items than those simply baking bread. and what is that called when someone who does more work gets more in return? capitalism and if you think you can change that by destroying capitalism you are more delusional than i thought
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42347375]Who are you to decide what people deserve?[/QUOTE] lol a normal person capable of understanding that luxury at the price of human life is not worth it.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42347426]lol a normal person capable of understand that luxury at the price of human life is not worth it.[/QUOTE] lol but your not a normal person if a good majority of the first world prefers and enjoys the luxuries of a capitalistic society
[QUOTE=Loriborn;42347455]lol but your not a normal person if a good majority of the first world prefers and enjoys the luxuries of a capitalistic society[/QUOTE] so you are getting rid of all pretense of wanting people to be happy and you are now honestly and boldly defending wage slavery and consumerism?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42347472]so you are getting rid of all pretense of wanting people to be happy and you are now honestly and boldly defending wage slavery and consumerism?[/QUOTE] wage slavery is a buzzword; being dependent on a salary is how economics works, in anarchy you could call it "communal slavery," youre still dependent on the work of others at that point, and guess what, youre never going to get rid of interdependence to someone who is in a position of power over you (beit your boss, or the baker who is making the food you eat) consumerism is a good thing dont see your point the fact that some people care more about being as happy as they can be, than making the most people happy, is why anarchy doesnt work [editline]29th September 2013[/editline] if youre a teacher, the baker doesnt give a fuck about you because he doesnt need a teacher, but you need the baker because you need to eat therefore the baker > teacher simply because the teacher needs the baker far more than the baker needs to teacher you can pretend the baker would always be a good chap, but that wont happen, the teacher is "enslaved" to the demands of the baker [editline]29th September 2013[/editline] in anarchy the baker can "charge" the teacher whatever he wants, and the teacher cant complain because everyone needs the baker guess what? capitalism and a monopoly in the same place in anarchy
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42347472]so you are getting rid of all pretense of wanting people to be happy and you are now honestly and boldly defending wage slavery and consumerism?[/QUOTE] What if you want to be happy? Do you give up what makes you happy to make others happy, leaving yourself unhappy?
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