Swedish celebrity chef Anders Vendel 'beaten for looking like Donald Trump' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=da space core;51374704]Now I shall ask this out if curiosity, but why does it matter what ethnicity prople are when reporting on a crime? Like I understand for articles about crime rates themselves it does matter, but when it is otherwise irrelevant, why include it?[/QUOTE] It matters because crimes have risen incredibly, we have gang rapes every week sometimes multiple, and this is something that used to be very rare in Sweden. There have been more murders this year then ever before, and the year isn't over yet. It is a big problem when police get politicized and lie to the public like they did during the mass-sexual harassment of children and youth that happened at "We are Stockholm 2016" where all the perpetrators where of African or Middle Eastern origin - all this to not as quoted "play people into the arms of Sweden Democrats" If we are to fix this society and lower crime, we must know who the perpetrators are in order to fix this. It will be impossible if we don't know who they are because of censoring. And also, doesn't the public deserve to know what is going on in their country? Why can't we know where the perpetrator is coming from and how long they have been in our country? What is it that really has been going on in our society when typing out the origin of a perpetrator is racist and when the press, police and government is censoring and twisting facts or outright lie? I want to ask why shouldn't we know the ethnicity of those committing crimes? Why would it be irrelevant if it turns out that the majority committing certain forms of crimes turns out to not be ethnic Swedes and come from the same parts of the world? Edit: And I would like to ask, just out of curiosity, what do you think of any of the other things I brought up in my previous post?

guy sounds p racist to me when u read his post. calls them vermin and used the ape emoji. e: thats probably why he removed his post lol

[QUOTE=Sprelle;51374732]Where is your source? Would be surreal if it happens here.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocMz241uFU[/media]

[QUOTE=Kannata;51374746]guy sounds p racist to me when u read his post. calls them vermin and used the ape emoji. e: thats probably why he removed his post lol[/QUOTE] Imagine if it was the reverse "Fucking vita svennejävlar era svennehoror jävla nazister allihopa broo" and noone would called it racist because racism against whites doesn't exist right? It is an angry counter reaction in the heat of the moment. I would also be angry if I was beaten down for no other reason then being an ethnic white Swede.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51374683]Censoring of the origin of criminals is extremely common in Swedish media, I wonder why - maybe it is because we got the most left-wing media in all of Europe? ([url]https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/02/07/british-press-most-right-wing-europe/[/url]) Not only that, our scientists and researchers are also covering up the relationship between immigration and crime. ([url]https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2Fkultur%2Fsvenske-forskere-morklegger-sammenhengen-mellom-innvandring-og-kriminalitet%2F64042187[/url] Coincidence much? I am so tired of reading lies like "8-6 Swedish men raped woman at Finnish ferry" in Swedish media, then you look on that case in the Finnish news and lo and behold it's 4 men all from Somalia. And this happens over and over and over. It almost feels like the media is actively trying to demonize ethnic Swedish men and blaming them for crimes committed by foreigners. They are actively lying. [url]http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article20251296.ab[/url] [url]http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2015020319139823_uu.shtml[/url] (Somehow these two articles will not be allowed to be translated though itools, very strange). Although when it does happen that Swedish men have done anything against someone of foreign origin, the press and police goes out with "Very Swedish looking men" as description. It is only when Swedes have done something that the correct description of the perpetrator gets out, foreigners are protected at all costs. [url]http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/krim/article23603059.ab[/url][/QUOTE] Saddest part is that this is only gonna push frustrated people further to the extreme right and the only ones who'll genuinely suffer from that are the immigrants who actually wanna assimilate and work. It makes me pretty depressed to be honest.

[QUOTE=Amakir;51374822]Saddest part is that this is only gonna push frustrated people further to the extreme right and the only ones who'll genuinely suffer from that are the immigrants who actually wanna assimilate and work. It makes me pretty depressed to be honest.[/QUOTE] We must remember even though we have gotten countless imported criminals among the ones who came here to assimilate and work, it is the fault of the politicians. Therefore we need new politicians that can kick the criminal scum out and not pamper them like the current ones does. If the current trend is continueing with our immigration, we will get half a million people from the middle east and africa till 2020 through normal immigration plus the family immigration. Now THAT is an extreme threat to our country and our system, just look at how much we been fucked over from a year of mass immigration.

Should classify it a hate crime like it would if the tables were flipped

[QUOTE=Sprelle;51374707]Sweden has massive issues with immigration and many swedes refuse to aknowledge that. Isn't there no-go zones there now for the police? Or was it only temporary?[/QUOTE] The "no-go" zones never refer to just groups of immigrants being way too rowdy to handle. It's usually small areas that are heavily infested with organised crime, like biker gangs and the like. Not saying that all of those people are normal swedish but they for sure are not only muslim immigrants.

[QUOTE=Sprelle;51374707]Sweden has massive issues with immigration and many swedes refuse to aknowledge that. Isn't there no-go zones there now for the police? Or was it only temporary?[/QUOTE] There is no such thing. This is a made up media scandal and has nothing to do with reality, the police are allowed to go absolutely everywhere in the country, [url=http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/krim/article22232202.ab]the police know of some areas that are more vulnerable to crime, mainly due them being poorer[/url] but that doesn't make them no-go zones.

[QUOTE=da space core;51374704]Now I shall ask this out if curiosity, but why does it matter what ethnicity prople are when reporting on a crime? Like I understand for articles about crime rates themselves it does matter, but when it is otherwise irrelevant, why include it?[/QUOTE] Because people are worried that increased immigration is going to lead to increased crime and the media tries to hide it by not stating if a crime is done by a foreigner or not.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51374836]Therefore we need new politicians that can kick the criminal scum out [/QUOTE] I really don't understand the mindset of kicking out the subset of refugees that have been given the opportunity at a better life and just throw it away because they have concreted mindsets that are fundamentally incompatible with modern society. Why is the solution to pawn off the problem on someone else, or risk them just flowing back in after being kicked out? So everyone can feel all superior knowing their country didn't take anyone's life (either figuratively via life in prison or literally)? Nevermind the further suffering those individuals will cause and the likely continuation of their backward mindset to future generations.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;51375007]I really don't understand the mindset of kicking out the subset of refugees that have been given the opportunity at a better life and just throw it away because they have concreted mindsets that are fundamentally incompatible with modern society. Why is the solution to pawn off the problem on someone else, or risk them just flowing back in after being kicked out? So everyone can feel all superior knowing their country didn't take anyone's life (either figuratively via life in prison or literally)? Nevermind the further suffering those individuals will cause and the likely continuation of their backward mindset to future generations.[/QUOTE] What about the suffering on the Swedish population? Or does all the rapes, murders, beatings committed by foreign criminals on Swedes not matter? They are not our responsibility, they are citizens in their own country and therefor their own countries responsibility. It is not us pawning off the problems on someone else but someone else pawning off the problem on us.

[QUOTE=Lolkork;51375065]We have taken in enough refugees for now, I think it really sucks that we can't help everyone but Sweden can't do everything. Now we should start focusing on helping all our new citizens become part of the Swedish society.[/QUOTE] A stop for ten years would be a start. And I wonder if they will deport 80 000 this year as they promised they would, it is soon 2017 and time is ticking out. We'll see if it was a lie to calm people down after the "Cologne mass raping incident" or not.

yo sign me up for the next experiment of going through space holes or something like in the movie Contact(or book) I know the whole world isn't like this but it's getting so lame.

I just wish the authorities would be more ruthless or stern, if you will, in upholding the law / stamping out regressive third world customs. You know something has gone horribly wrong when the police start censoring information, as others in this thread mentioned, and people self-censor themselves to avoid social shaming. To Big Bang, I would have fled Venezuela too in your case, but don't you think it's a bit arrogant to claim something is not true about Scandinavia vs what I think are native Scandinavians?

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51375043]What about the suffering on the Swedish population? Or does all the rapes, murders, beatings committed by foreign criminals on Swedes not matter? They are not our responsibility, they are citizens in their own country and therefor their own countries responsibility. It is not us pawning off the problems on someone else but someone else pawning off the problem on us.[/QUOTE] I guess my point wasn't clear; instead of deporting these criminals back to whatever country they came from, thus pawning off the problem on someone else (and risking that they will just come right back), either incarcerate them for life or execute them.

[QUOTE=Omesh;51375454]To Big Bang, I would have fled Venezuela too in your case, but don't you think it's a bit arrogant to claim something is not true about Scandinavia vs what I think are native Scandinavians?[/QUOTE] Well I live here too, you know? I happen to commute to Malmö on a regular basis and I live in a region with an overwhelming amount of immigrants, fucking, I live literally in one of those "vulnerable areas". I also read the newspapers (in no small part since I'm trying to improve my Swedish) and I watch the news, and what you see if for the most part, fearmongering, which causes radicalization, and deepens the cultural divide. Particularly, it just so happens to be that a lot of the criminals these stories seem to focus on are not actually refugees, or even immigrants, but Swedish citizens, even sometimes second generation Swedish citizens. There are some very valid complaints about immigration, that they stretch public services thin, that there [I]is[/I] a cultural clash, but to say that they are solely responsible for a rise of crimes is a statement that will only result in prejudice and hatred, that will make everything worse for everybody.

It boggles my mind how people on the internet keep claiming that Sweden is full of no-go zones when pretty much all the sources I've seen that report on it are essentially breitbart in different outfits. Ask any swede that has actually been to these so called no-go zones and you'll learn that there is no such thing.

I don't see them having Swedish citizenship as a great point, without migration they wouldn't be here to begin with. For example, in France second generation is more radical than their parents. Personally I see apologism as an opportunity for that to happen, but here I like that you acknowledge there are legitimate concerns. About only migrants causing crime, you were already rebuted about that on page 1. They might commit less in total (more in some areas, if what I hear about sexual crimes is true), but more per person when normalized by group size.

[QUOTE=Omesh;51375912]I don't see them having Swedish citizenship as a great point, without migration they wouldn't be here to begin with. For example, in France second generation is more radical than their parents. Personally I see apologism as an opportunity for that to happen, but here I like that you acknowledge there are legitimate concerns. About only migrants causing crime, you were already rebuted about that on page 1. They might commit less in total (more in some areas, if what I hear about sexual crimes is true), but more per person when normalized by group size.[/QUOTE] I acknowledge there are hurdles to overcome, but they're in no way arguments for mass deportation. The fact that they're citizens goes to show that they're A) not refugees, B) not people you can deport. The idea of deporting Swedish citizens based on where their families are from has one name and one name only. If you go by statistics only, [I]I, myself[/I], am hundreds of times more likely to commit a crime than absolutely anybody else in the country, even people from the Middle East, as I come from the most dangerous city on the planet, in fact, if you follow that thesis, my sheer presence here has [I]increased[/I] the crime rate substantially. People are not numbers, you can't approach the situation as coldly as that, and prejudice is just going to complicate matters.

Deporting citizens, especially second generation and up, would be harsh, but it wouldn't be so harsh to stop taking them in. If you mean fascism then I don't agree. I'm not sure the European jews, who were actually being encouraged to leave, as per zionist and nazi agreement, that's true for before the camps, could be said to be from Israel besides ancient history. Seems to me like making Hungarians go back to Ural, but at the time zionists actually wanted Palestine, you know he planned Madagascar too. Don't agree with your second paragraph at all. That city you mention is dangerous and I would say situations can make people monstrous. Like cannibalism of children during holodomor or everyone being an informant and living in fear of stasi in East Germany, but now those groups are alright. You left the dangerous city, but why should that in any way change what I think of events in Sweden. Sweden being ultra tolerant and safe in comparison to middle east just makes crimes seem worse. Here's what I think is happening. Say what you want about christianity, but Sweden is certainly more christian than muslim and is now acting ultra tolerant. Muslims in the middle east are surrounded 90%+ by other muslims. Now they come come to Sweden and bring their "situation"/religion with them, which let's just say can be not kind to kaffirs (second part of Muhammad's life, Medina quran). That causes problems now that they have to deal with kaffirs. I agree blind prejudice is complicating matters, but the point of my last paragraph being blindly dismissed as prejudice is doing the same.

[QUOTE=Omesh;51376658]Deporting citizens, especially second generation and up, would be harsh, but it wouldn't be so harsh to stop taking them in. If you mean fascism then I don't agree. I'm not sure the European jews, who were actually being encouraged to leave, as per zionist and nazi agreement, that's true for before the camps, could be said to be from Israel besides ancient history. Seems to me like making Hungarians go back to Ural, but at the time zionists actually wanted Palestine, you know he planned Madagascar too. Don't agree with your second paragraph at all. That city you mention is dangerous and I would say situations can make people monstrous. Like cannibalism of children during holodomor or everyone being an informant and living in fear of stasi in East Germany, but now those groups are alright. You left the dangerous city, but why should that in any way change what I think of events in Sweden. Sweden being ultra tolerant and safe in comparison to middle east just makes crimes seem worse. Here's what I think is happening. Say what you want about christianity, but Sweden is certainly more christian than muslim and is now acting ultra tolerant. Muslims in the middle east are surrounded 90%+ by other muslims. Now they come come to Sweden and bring their "situation"/religion with them, which let's just say can be not kind to kaffirs (second part of Muhammad's life, Medina quran). That causes problems now that they have to deal with kaffirs. I agree blind prejudice is complicating matters, but the point of my last paragraph being blindly dismissed as prejudice is doing the same.[/QUOTE] Deporting citizens is fascism and you can't dress it as anything else. There is absolutely nothing to gain from deporting citizens. I left the most dangerous city in the planet, I come from a place of horrific violence. If where I'm from defines who I am, or more specifically, how likely I am to commit rape or murder then lock me up because that would make me one of the most dangerous individuals in Sweden. But I know what you mean, because what you're trying to say is just how you don't like Muslims, it has nothing to do with where they're from, it has to do with an irrational fear. You have a problem with Islam, you are prejudiced against Islam as per exactly what you said, and to be fair, you don't [I]have[/I] to like Islam, that's fine too, you can complain about it all you want but if that makes you think that all Muslims should be eliminated from Sweden because they're dangerous and can't mingle with Christians, that makes you xenophobic. This society needs to make amends with its two parts, this irrational fear will make it worse. I'd also like to note, that none of you give two shits about chef Anders Vendel, this is just a vehicle for controversy.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;51376923]Deporting citizens is fascism and you can't dress it as anything else. There is absolutely nothing to gain from deporting citizens. I left the most dangerous city in the planet, I come from a place of horrific violence. If where I'm from defines who I am, or more specifically, how likely I am to commit rape or murder then lock me up because that would make me one of the most dangerous individuals in Sweden. But I know what you mean, because what you're trying to say is just how you don't like Muslims, it has nothing to do with where they're from, it has to do with an irrational fear. You have a problem with Islam, you are prejudiced against Islam as per exactly what you said, and to be fair, you don't [I]have[/I] to like Islam, that's fine too, you can complain about it all you want but if that makes you think that all Muslims should be eliminated from Sweden because they're dangerous and can't mingle with Christians, that makes you xenophobic. This society needs to make amends with its two parts, this irrational fear will make it worse. I'd also like to note, that none of you give two shits about chef Anders Vendel, this is just a vehicle for controversy.[/QUOTE] Wanting to deport citizens is not fascism. There is a lot to gain if said citizens are causing a lot of problems and not wanting to adapt or integrate into the society. We should be able to revoke citizenship for repeat offenders for example. Being critical against islam and its impact on society is not prejudice. Nothing he said was xenophobic. You saying noone gives two shits about Vendel would be like me saying you haven't been here long enough to form an informed opinion. Coming from a dangerous city doesn't give you a free pass.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51377035]It is not fascism if you are willing to deport white Swedes as well. Where are you going to deport Swedes to? What country will acept criminal Swedes? Or do you rather have ethic or religious discrimination in law, which would be through nulling or revoking the Discrimination Act of the country.[/QUOTE] Oh but we do deport white Swedes too! Just today it was in the news! [url]http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/krim/article23918765.ab[/url] Swedish by origin but also a Belgian citizen, never to return to Sweden again. I guess that put a hole in your argument, huh? You see? Now we can safely deport non-white Swedish citizens too and it is not fascist in your eyes anymore, right? It is the ethnic deportation [i]equality[/i] you were looking for.

reminder that big bang is an actual brown immigrant to sweden and will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he can to devillify them [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Smooth" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;51377066]reminder that big bang is an actual brown immigrant to sweden and will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he can to devillify them[/QUOTE] Devillify who? Swedes?

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51377071]Devillify who? Swedes?[/QUOTE] immigrants to sweden

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51377088]"""""""""""deported""""""""""" (If google translate is failing me it still is on you for posting a swedish source) [editline]16th November 2016[/editline] So no not really[/QUOTE] Oh yes really. [quote=wikipedia Clark Olofsson]Until the fall of 2012, he sat on saltvik prison in Harnosand before he moved to Kumla. On March 5, 2013 Olofsson left in his 24-page application for revision to the Supreme Court, where he took back his confession. [1] On November 15, 2016 Olofsson was transferred to prison in Belgium, and thus the [b]lifetime expulsion from Sweden[/b].[/quote]

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51377111]He still demanded his transfer didnt he? There: Also I cant find your quote here: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Olofsson[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]Fram till hösten 2012 satt han på Anstalten Saltvik i Härnösand innan han flyttades till Kumla. Den 5 mars 2013 lämnade Olofsson in sin 24-sidiga resningsansökan till högsta domstolen där han bland annat tog tillbaka sitt erkännande.[1] Den 15 november 2016 överfördes Olofsson till fängelse i Belgien, och därmed livstids utvisning från Sverige.[/quote]

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51377059]Oh but we do deport white Swedes too! Just today it was in the news! [url]http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/krim/article23918765.ab[/url] Swedish by origin but also a Belgian citizen, never to return to Sweden again. I guess that put a hole in your argument, huh? You see? Now we can safely deport non-white Swedish citizens too and it is not fascist in your eyes anymore, right? It is the ethnic deportation [i]equality[/i] you were looking for.[/QUOTE] This was voluntary extradition, not deportation. [url=http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/clark-olofsson-lamnar-sverige--for-alltid/]My source is actually your source's source[/url].