Quarter of young British people 'do not trust Muslims' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=katbug;42301302]Regail me of all the times that a war was started because an Atheist wanted to destroy a religious group [/QUOTE] Stalin maybe not destroy and maybe not war but definitely persecution and genocide

[QUOTE=Flem;42301651]Its pretty much because they came over here, they try to rob us of our money, they take the absolute liberty then they blow up our buses.[/QUOTE] Lol well here's one of the 25% of British youth.

muslims are very nice people

It's probably a higher percentage than that. Muslims don't fit into western society which causes issues because they keep to themselves and don't integrate. That causes distrust in it'self.

[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;42302227]It's probably a higher percentage than that. Muslims don't fit into western society which causes issues because they keep to themselves and don't integrate. That causes distrust in it'self.[/QUOTE] you, however, are not a nice person at all

[QUOTE=Reds;42300484]Well, the world would be better with fewer proactively conservative/radical/ people of any religion. And atheists for that matter, nobody likes an asshole who goes around preaching about how wrong someone's religion is. Atheists should really be a position of "i don't believe in religion nor care for it" and just leave it at that and to themselves. I think that for most religions it's the person, not the religion itself that makes it a bad thing. You could have a religion of peace, happiness, and eternal pacifism and sunshine and a radical member of that religion would still be a very bad thing.[/QUOTE] just because religion doesn't directly harm you that doesn't mean it's not doing an immense amount of harm. you telling people that their atheism should only go as far as a lack of belief and strictly forbid criticism of what is blatantly harmful to society is not only obnoxious and illogical but extremely immoral.

is it blatantly harmful? [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] that's rhetorical btw, it isnt blatantly harmful

[QUOTE=Hellduck;42302273]is it blatantly harmful? [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] that's rhetorical btw, it isnt blatantly harmful[/QUOTE] you've got to be pretty prejudiced and blind to think that.

Why would I put my faith in a foreigner who I can barely understand and is probably only here for the benefits he receives or because he can't abide by the rules in his own country so he got kicked out and came here instead, for the benefits he receives. I'm not going to trust anyone like that

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;42302286]Why would I put my faith in a foreigner who I can barely understand and is probably only here for the benefits he receives or because he can't abide by the rules in his own country so he got kicked out and came here instead, for the benefits he receives. I'm not going to trust anyone like that[/QUOTE] do you actually believe that you can get deported from your home country

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;42302286]Why would I put my faith in a foreigner who I can barely understand and is probably only here for the benefits he receives or because he can't abide by the rules in his own country so he got kicked out and came here instead, for the benefits he receives. I'm not going to trust anyone like that[/QUOTE] Muslim=/=Immigrant

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42302290]do you actually believe that you can get deported from your home country[/QUOTE] Not really being deported if you've committed a crime in your home country so you leave for fear of death, the easy way out would be to find a way to get to a country like the US or UK. For example if we went to war with a middle eastern country they can have refuge

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;42302301]Not really being deported if you've committed a crime in your home country so you leave for fear of death, the easy way out would be to find a way to get to a country like the US or UK. For example if we went to war with a middle eastern country they can have refuge[/QUOTE] you said that they'd been ''kicked out''. it's extremely unlikely that there's muslims in england that are there because they ''couldn't follow the rules'' in their home country.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;42302286]Why would I put my faith in a foreigner who I can barely understand and is probably only here for the benefits he receives or because he can't abide by the rules in his own country so he got kicked out and came here instead, for the benefits he receives. I'm not going to trust anyone like that[/QUOTE] AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42302308]you said that they'd been ''kicked out''. it's extremely unlikely that there's muslims in england that are there because they ''couldn't follow the rules'' in their home country.[/QUOTE] We have plenty of asylum seekers from all parts of the world that have come here over the years

[QUOTE=Charybdis;42302325]We have plenty of asylum seekers from all parts of the world that have come here over the years[/QUOTE] but they're not there because they ''couldn't follow the rules''. he literally suggested that the muslims in england were basically just a bunch of bandits that ran amok in the middle east and got sent off to england as punishment.

Only 1000 people were questioned...

Well the radicals among the muslim immigrants are doing stupid shit like putting up "sharia zones", and the moderates arent doing enough to abolish them.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;42302357]Well the radicals among the muslim immigrants are doing stupid shit like putting up "sharia zones", and the moderates arent doing enough to abolish them.[/QUOTE] Well not-hardcore muslims don't have any more power than anyone else to do anything about it afaik, normal muslims such as my family and others would just rather not have anything to do with them

The reason is a lack of integration on both sides. If more Muslims lived around local people and more local people lived around Muslims then there wouldn't be mistrust. The reason so many Muslims in this country become radicalised is because they tend to live in Muslim communities where those sorts of ideas can be allowed to prosper. You can't blame British people for being mistrustful of Muslims if they've never met one or spent time around them. It doesn't help to just call them all Racist or dumb because that doesn't solve the issue and infact makes it worse.

the reason it's only 25% is that 65% of british youth is muslim

[QUOTE=The mouse;42302410]The reason is a lack of integration on both sides. If more Muslims lived around local people and more local people lived around Muslims then there wouldn't be mistrust. The reason so many Muslims in this country become radicalised is because they tend to live in Muslim communities where those sorts of ideas can be allowed to prosper. You can't blame British people for being mistrustful of Muslims if they've never met one or spent time around them. It doesn't help to just call them all Racist or dumb because that doesn't solve the issue and infact makes it worse.[/QUOTE] Thing is even in muslim majority countries you still get pockets of radicals that cut themselves off from everyone else, often very violently, too, to the point of insurgency

[QUOTE=Charybdis;42302406]Well not-hardcore muslims don't have any more power than anyone else to do anything about it afaik, normal muslims such as my family and others would just rather not have anything to do with them[/QUOTE] Not to say inaction is conspiracy. But your culture is being hijacked, and its not going to go away on its own.

[QUOTE=The mouse;42302410]The reason is a lack of integration on both sides. If more Muslims lived around local people and more local people lived around Muslims then there wouldn't be mistrust. The reason so many Muslims in this country become radicalised is because they tend to live in Muslim communities where those sorts of ideas can be allowed to prosper. You can't blame British people for being mistrustful of Muslims if they've never met one or spent time around them. It doesn't help to just call them all Racist or dumb because that doesn't solve the issue and infact makes it worse.[/QUOTE] what needs to happen is this 25% needs to be carefully defused, and groups like the EDL be counter-protested and monitored at every turn. the Muslims of Britain have done nothing to deserve this, so don't make them take action when the real problem is with a bunch of racists and ultranationalists.

[QUOTE=whee;42302351]Only 1000 people were questioned...[/QUOTE] Can you not into survey size confidence? [IMG]http://blog.vovici.com/Portals/60483/images//sample-size-table.png[/IMG] Asking 1.000 people is enough to cover for about half a billion or so.

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;42302548]This is 1000 people, more then likely all from the same part of the country. Opinions can vary greatly dependent on which part of the country you're in, generally areas of lower class where education is of a lesser quality tend to be more aggressive towards other views due to a lack of understanding. If this survey was done in a less deprived area, the results would more then likely be better. edit: also agreeing with post above mine, not everybody could of responded.[/QUOTE] The responses for a 1.000 person survey is within less than 5% margin of error. That means your results would change less than 5 percent if you asked literally [I]every single motherfucker[/I] of your demographic, compared to asking just 1.000. It's pretty damn accurate. Brits are just racist cunts :v: [editline]25th September 2013[/editline] Notice the jump from a population of 100.000 to 1.000.000 is just [I]one[/I] more person asked. To cover 900.000 people's opinions within a 5% margin of error. Social studies be crazy, I tells you.

[QUOTE=Cone;42302516]what needs to happen is this 25% needs to be carefully defused, and groups like the EDL be counter-protested and monitored at every turn. the Muslims of Britain have done nothing to deserve this, so don't make them take action when the real problem is with a bunch of racists and ultranationalists.[/QUOTE] You misunderstand the problem. The majority of people who don't trust Muslims aren't Racists or Ultranationalists, just some of them, the majority of people just haven't been around them and only hear what the media and what other people tell them. There isn't something wrong with these people, they just don't understand Muslims and so they don't trust them. It's a massive generalisation to say that just because someone doesn't trust Muslims for what ever reason then they're automatically a racist. That doesn't help nor tackle the problem at hand. While Most Muslims haven't directly done anything wrong, some of them don't try to integrate because naturally they'd rather be with their own kind, the problem is that this leads to separate communities which leads to friction between them and local communities which creates an atmosphere of mutual mistrust. There really is no-one to blame here, It's just the consequence of a bad situation.

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;42302587]uhhhhhhh, no. 1000 people can't represent the entire population's opinions. that's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] 1000 is plenty. do you know nothing about how polls work?

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42302279]you've got to be pretty prejudiced and blind to think that.[/QUOTE] thats funny I was thinking the same thing about you

[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;42302654]1000 people from where though, 10 from each county? 1 from each town?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/BBC_Radio_1_Newsbeat_Discrimination_Poll_September_2013.pdf"]everything you need to know is in the 480 page report[/URL]