Jill Stein: There is a Plan B for Sanders' Supporters looking to waste their vote - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;50498971]If people think that trumps lies and backpedals a lot, but give hillary a free pass when she also does -nevermind the reason- then something is very wrong. If hillary is lying to cater to most democrats and trump is lying to cater to most republicans, the only difference is in what they did before. [/QUOTE] Nearly every time I see the election being couched in a typically nihilist "both candidates suck" sort of way it's Clinton being labeled the liar and Trump being labeled an idiot, even though Trump is surely both. Pretty much no one gives her a free pass for any reason.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499133]They are, end of fucking line. Battle of Athens is a great example of why 2nd Amendment rights are vital in standing up against the government, and the Bundy protests are another (both times) even if they were in the wrong. I would rather have that right never fucked with. You know what stopped the cops from going in and fucking up some black neighborhoods during the Civil Rights Movement? The blacks were armed and got organized.[/QUOTE] Except when we talk about the successes of the civil rights movement, we usually talk about Martin Luther King and the men who rejected violence, not the nation of islam.

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50499126]It's not "because?" lol. It's fucking laws. If I leave the door unlocked and a hobo sneaks in and has a "new life" and cooks me great meals I'm still likely to kick him out. Should've asked me and offered his skills up front.[/QUOTE] so if it's the law, does that make it right and moral? do you pirate anything? smoke cannabis? [editline]12th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499133]They are, end of fucking line.[/QUOTE] so what makes america so unique when everybody else gets along fine without guns? britain is a free and democratic country with a lot of civil and political rights and freedoms, as are a great many other nations.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50499124]Except it's not on her agenda, nor has confiscation been on any major presidential candidates agenda. It's political suicide and everyone knows it. For it to be her agenda she wild need to be actively petitioning for it, formulating policies, saying you'll think about it when asked isn't an agenda.[/QUOTE]Except she has been doing that and I gave you sources that showed she does consider it a major priority. [QUOTE=Raidyr;50499132]It comes from an understanding of the current climate in Congress.[/QUOTE]They're also up for election, I read your whole post but really I couldn't be fucked to repeat myself. Everything you've said there I've responded to elsewhere, but thanks for the effort in typing it all up. [QUOTE=Raidyr;50499145]Nearly every time I see the election being couched in a typically nihilist "both candidates suck" sort of way it's Clinton being labeled the liar and Trump being labeled an idiot, even though Trump is surely both. Pretty much no one gives her a free pass for any reason.[/QUOTE]I've never given Trump a free pass, I said he's dishonest and I flat-out called him a liar in other threads when I pointed to his extensive history as a Democrat right up until he ran as a Republican. [QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;50499158]Except when we talk about the successes of the civil rights movement, we usually talk about Martin Luther King and the men who rejected violence, not the nation of islam.[/QUOTE]Yeah black people defending themselves from racist cops beating the shit out of them and klansmen trying to hang them don't count right? Nonviolence will save the day! MLK's approach took the high road sure, and I think that's great, but when some sister-fucking Alabama boys are looking to "lynch us up some niggers!" I'd rather take a direct approach when they surround my house. These people weren't Nation of Islam, they were regular people [I]defending themselves[/I] which I know must sound terrifying for you. Now, much like with Sobotnik I'm going to ignore your posts if you keep trying to argue this stupid shit. I will not reverse myself at all on this position, it is something I will not compromise on ever. I don't give a fuck if that bothers you, this isn't a thread about guns or gun control and really, we've ran it out as far as it ought to go anyway.

Sanders is the worst candidate ever because he created Sanders supporters if you actually believe that Trump is a better candidate than Clinton as a Sanders supporter then you are a dumb brick. on literally every issue Clinton is closer to Sanders than Trump, and yes, including foreign policy because I would say 'draw back from foreign affairs' of Sanders is more similar to 'interventionism' than 'torture terrorists and murder their families' of Trump. voting third party is less fucking stupid but still a complete waste of a vote and time for maintaining your ~~principles~~ at the cost of helping put a fucking quasi-fascist lunatic into the white house through not shoving every vote possible onto the shill who isn't a quasi-fascist lunatic [editline]12th June 2016[/editline] Why do people give a fuck about personal morality? Who fucking cares? Why does it matter if Clinton is a flip-flopper and untrustworthy? Trump is all that AND WORSE, AND also advocates some of the worst policies in American history

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499206] Yeah black people defending themselves from racist cops beating the shit out of them and klansmen trying to hang them don't count right? Nonviolence will save the day! MLK's approach took the high road sure, and I think that's great, but when some sister-fucking Alabama boys are looking to "lynch us up some niggers!" I'd rather take a direct approach when they surround my house. These people weren't Nation of Islam, they were regular people [I]defending themselves[/I] which I know must sound terrifying for you. Now, much like with Sobotnik I'm going to ignore your posts if you keep trying to argue this stupid shit. I will not reverse myself at all on this position, it is something I will not compromise on ever. I don't give a fuck if that bothers you, this isn't a thread about guns or gun control and really, we've ran it out as far as it ought to go anyway.[/QUOTE] Hey if want to write me off as some commie liberal who hates your freedums, go right ahead, but I like to believe that a political environment where we rationally debate each other and try to look at things from other people's perspectives is better than being totally entrenched in your viewpoints and acting like a complete child. You're more than free to your viewpoints, but if you're trying to convince me of the validity of your positions, nothing you've said has been anything near convincing. And how did we reach a point, as a country, where compromise is seen as the most horrible, cowardly thing a person can do?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50499168]so if it's the law, does that make it right and moral? do you pirate anything? smoke cannabis?[/QUOTE] So you equate a life based on sneaking into a border, lying, hiding and fraudulent documents and many many illegal acts just to stay to downloading shit? It's immoral to enter someone's home without their consent. If your first act inside of a country is against its laws that's immoral. When Depp entered Australia without documenting his pets he was doing not only a crime but an immoral act. I don't know how you compare downloading a song to entering a nation without any approval and taking advantage. If you couldn't even follow a law for even a nanosecond of being inside then why the hell should you not be removed? Implying that the race matters is fucking racist, not deporting people that didn't go through the same channels as actual immigrants.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499206]Now, much like with Sobotnik I'm going to ignore your posts if you keep trying to argue this stupid shit. I will not reverse myself at all on this position, it is something I will not compromise on ever.[/QUOTE] this sounds rather closeminded and pettily childish to be honest, i expected better than this the point is that trump is a truly insane candidate and i just don't see why guns should take centre-stage when somebody who is worse than clinton by pretty much every measure could become president also i'm pretty sure trump supported banning assault weapons at some point [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50499254]So you equate a life based on sneaking into a border, lying, hiding and fraudulent documents and many many illegal acts just to stay to downloading shit? It's immoral to enter someone's home without their consent. If your first act inside of a country is against its laws that's immoral. When Depp entered Australia without documenting his pets he was doing not only a crime but an immoral act. I don't know how you compare downloading a song to entering a nation without any approval and taking advantage. If you couldn't even follow a law for even a nanosecond of being inside then why the hell should you not be removed? Implying that the race matters is fucking racist, not deporting people that didn't go through the same channels as actual immigrants.[/QUOTE] it's still breaking the law if its immoral to break the law, why is it fine for you to illegally download a song? what makes you any better than the immigrants? you could justify it of course, but so could the immigrants. both you and they are committing a victimless crime

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50499261]this sounds rather closeminded and pettily childish to be honest, i expected better than this the point is that trump is a truly insane candidate and i just don't see why guns should take centre-stage when somebody who is worse than clinton by pretty much every measure could become president [B]also i'm pretty sure trump supported banning assault weapons at some point[/B] it's still breaking the law if its immoral to break the law, why is it fine for you to illegally download a song? what makes you any better than the immigrants? you could justify it of course, but so could the immigrants. both you and they are committing a victimless crime[/QUOTE] He flipped stances on that last march, now he's back to being against a ban of any kind. [url]http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-assault-weapon-ban-220238[/url]

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50499212]Why do people give a fuck about personal morality? Who fucking cares? Why does it matter if Clinton is a flip-flopper and untrustworthy? Trump is all that AND WORSE, AND also advocates some of the worst policies in American history[/QUOTE]I'm going to ignore your retarded fit because I don't really care what some Brit has to say about [U]my[/U] vote, tough shit if you don't like it. I care about personal morality though, which is why I'm leaning toward doing the oh so stupid decision (nice way to win me over) of voting third party. I'm not really sure how Trump is advocating "some of the worst policies in American history" when we have a long, [U]long[/U] history of fucked up shit. I realize that's hyperbole from somebody with a European frame of mind but really, this blanket endorsement of Hillary simply because she's the Democrat flavor of shit sandwich is getting stale. Calling Trump a fascist always makes me chuckle because it truly illustrates that the speaker doesn't know what they're talking about. Trump isn't a fascist, he's a populist, if anything Clinton is the quasi-fascist and that's why trying to browbeat me into voting for her simply won't work. My reasons for voting for Bernie were pretty cut and dry, he could compromise on things and was willing to try and make things better. He wanted to reform a lot of stuff. Sure the socialism stink was hard to endure but as far as socialism goes I'll take Bernie Sanders over the bullshit you have over there. Even though I disagreed with Bernie on plenty of things I could still get behind him because I disagreed with him [U]less[/U] than I disagree with Trump, which is still leaps and bounds better than my feelings on Clinton. [QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;50499235]Hey if want to write me off as some commie liberal who hates your freedums, go right ahead, but I like to believe that a political environment where we rationally debate each other and try to look at things from other people's perspectives is better than being totally entrenched in your viewpoints and acting like a complete child.[/QUOTE]I mean the thread has already been derailed enough, but hey, whatever. You have a point to make and damn it I better listen [I]or else.[/I] I'm entrenched in my view on this [U]one[/U] thing, it's the one thing I refuse to compromise on because it's a core tenet of everything I believe. You're essentially trying to sell me on the merits of legalizing rape, that is how strongly I feel on the matter. [QUOTE]You're more than free to your viewpoints, but if you're trying to convince me of the validity of your positions, nothing you've said has been anything near convincing.[/QUOTE]I don't give a flying fuck what you believe, I'm just defending my own beliefs because apparently calling me a wacko and stopping just shy of idiot so you don't get banned is par for the course in this thread. [QUOTE]And how did we reach a point, as a country, where compromise is seen as the most horrible, cowardly thing a person can do?[/QUOTE][I]I am compromising.[/I] This is compromise, it isn't "well you need to believe everything I believe just 'cause okay?" I'm not ever going to think like you or hold the same values as you, so when you want that kind of "compromise" I'm going to be honest and say it's never going to happen. I have made it [I]abundantly clear[/I] that I don't like Donald Trump, I just hate Hillary more, so any talk of me being pulled away from a third party vote is a pretty big compromise for me; it's just not the one you want. You're going to have to accept that people are different.

hillary gonna take your GUNS! watch out ladies and gentlemen she will undo the second amendment through her magic powers of evil establishmentism the fact you care so much about guns would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499300]I'm going to ignore your retarded fit because I don't really care what some Brit has to say about [U]my[/U] vote, tough shit if you don't like it. I care about personal morality though, which is why I'm leaning toward doing the oh so stupid decision (nice way to win me over) of voting third party. I'm not really sure how Trump is advocating "some of the worst policies in American history" when we have a long, [U]long[/U] history of fucked up shit. I realize that's hyperbole from somebody with a European frame of mind but really, this blanket endorsement of Hillary simply because she's the Democrat flavor of shit sandwich is getting stale. Calling Trump a fascist always makes me chuckle because it truly illustrates that the speaker doesn't know what they're talking about. Trump isn't a fascist, he's a populist, if anything Clinton is the quasi-fascist and that's why trying to browbeat me into voting for her simply won't work. My reasons for voting for Bernie were pretty cut and dry, he could compromise on things and was willing to try and make things better. He wanted to reform a lot of stuff. Sure the socialism stink was hard to endure but as far as socialism goes I'll take Bernie Sanders over the bullshit you have over there. Even though I disagreed with Bernie on plenty of things I could still get behind him because I disagreed with him [U]less[/U] than I disagree with Trump, which is still leaps and bounds better than my feelings on Clinton. I mean the thread has already been derailed enough, but hey, whatever. You have a point to make and damn it I better listen [I]or else.[/I] I'm entrenched in my view on this [U]one[/U] thing, it's the one thing I refuse to compromise on because it's a core tenet of everything I believe. You're essentially trying to sell me on the merits of legalizing rape, that is how strongly I feel on the matter. I don't give a flying fuck what you believe, I'm just defending my own beliefs because apparently calling me a wacko and stopping just shy of idiot so you don't get banned is par for the course in this thread. [I]I am compromising.[/I] This is compromise, it isn't "well you need to believe everything I believe just 'cause okay?" I'm not ever going to think like you or hold the same values as you, so when you want that kind of "compromise" I'm going to be honest and say it's never going to happen. I have made it [I]abundantly clear[/I] that I don't like Donald Trump, I just hate Hillary more, so any talk of me being pulled away from a third party vote is a pretty big compromise for me; it's just not the one you want. You're going to have to accept that people are different.[/QUOTE] When I said you dislike the democratic platform on guns as a whole earlier I wasn't making a hyperbole. All democrats support these sign kinds of gun reform. Sanders claims to be even harder on guns than Clinton. [QUOTE]Let me hear if there's any difference between the Secretary and myself. I have voted time and again for background checks, and I want to see it improved and expanded. I want to see us do away with the gun show loophole. In 1988, I lost an election because I said we should not have assault weapons on the streets of America. I don't know that there's any disagreement here.[/QUOTE] If that was enough to make you put Clinton on your shitlist, seems like Sanders needs to be right there next to her.

I can't believe I just read that living off the back of a government you're bullshitting is even comparable to piracy let alone the same, or an implication that removing a trespasser is "cuz racism for no reason". If I faked an ID to get in a bar it'd be similar. And guess what getting kicked out would be in the right on their part.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50499338]When I said you dislike the democratic platform on guns as a whole earlier I wasn't making a hyperbole. All democrats support these sign kinds of gun reform. Sanders claims to be even harder on guns than Clinton. If that was enough to make you put Clinton on your shitlist, seems like Sanders needs to be right there next to her.[/QUOTE] Truly the most insane thing about this guy

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50499331]hillary gonna take your GUNS! watch out ladies and gentlemen she will undo the second amendment through her magic powers of evil establishmentism the fact you care so much about guns would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.[/QUOTE] He said guns is his personal main thing he isn't going back on, not that it's the only reason. I'm sure you have one thing that you feel strongly about about Trump. What's real sad is that you give a fuck who he votes for and why

[QUOTE=plunger435;50499338]When I said you dislike the democratic platform on guns as a whole earlier I wasn't making a hyperbole. All democrats support these sign kinds of fun reform. Sanders claims to be even harder on guns than Clinton.[/QUOTE]I know Sanders would have been willing to compromise, and I think I could have begrudgingly put up with some of his proposals (but not accepted, I'd still be opposed) but Sanders has never once said that Australia's gun control scheme "should be looked at." That's what tipped me for Clinton as far as this is concerned, I was still opposed to both their stances and Donald Trump's stance prior to his recent flip-flop.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499300] You're going to have to accept that people are different.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]I'm going to ignore your retarded fit because I don't really care what some Brit has to say[/QUOTE] Moving past that, I never once said that you couldn't vote third party, that is your right. I never once said you couldn't own guns, that is your right. What I've taken issue with are your assertions about guns and democracy. It's not a healthy worldview. What I don't get is why you're so offended over me challenging it. If you care so much about them, then you should welcome debate.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499355]I know Sanders would have been willing to compromise, and I think I could have begrudgingly put up with some of his proposals (but not accepted, I'd still be opposed) but Sanders has never once said that Australia's gun control scheme "should be looked at." That's what tipped me for Clinton as far as this is concerned, I was still opposed to both their stances and Donald Trump's stance prior to his recent flip-flop.[/QUOTE] You're right no one asked Sanders about an Australin Gun ban that ha no relevance in America. They did ask him if he would be willing to repeal immunity to gun manufacturers of their guns are used in a crime though. [URL]http://time.com/4183716/bernie-sanders-gun-manufacturer-immunity/[/URL] Something completely within his power to do. I guess we're not going to take this flip flopping at face value though because he must not really mean it?

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50499352]What's real sad is that you give a fuck who he votes for and why[/QUOTE] because whoever becomes president will have a major impact on the rest of the world when we have children voting trump into power it's a clear sign that america has fallen from her former heights

[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;50499357]What I've taken issue with are your assertions about guns and democracy. It's not a healthy worldview. What I don't get is why you're so offended over me challenging it. If you care so much about them, then you should welcome debate.[/QUOTE]Yeah fuck that, guns are the one thing keeping our government in check and [I]our[/I] government is arguably the one you want to be the most fearful of it's citizens. That shit people complain about? Our foreign policy? [I]Torture?[/I] Everything that's been brought up that Donald Trump is supposedly going to absolutely dial up to eleven? Yeah, the rules are different when it comes to us and we still get angry when it happens elsewhere. All those guns I have are a reminder to Uncle Sam to never fuck with me because I will go down shooting, right along with plenty of other Americans, and the reason why is so that shit that happens elsewhere doesn't happen here. Removing that last check is what's keeping the rest of the world safe from a completely wild USA, it's our [I]duty[/I] to keep things honest. I realize this sounds a little crazy to you, but seeing how the government has handled things in the past I'm going to take a page from everyone we've bombed and shot and distrust the feds until the day I die. Does that mean we absolutely need armed revolution right now? Absolutely not, that is the [U]last[/U] resort, and we are nowhere near there yet; but people are trying to push us closer. That's why I'm so offended over you challenging it, because the federal government is like a pack of fucking five-year-olds who don't know how to deal with adversity. Safeguarding our 2nd Amendment rights is just to keep the world from getting even worse, which I get is why everyone is so up in arms about Trump. I recognize Trump, I know tons of Donald Trumps, my alcoholic uncle is a Donald Trump. [I]I innately understand him[/I] and I know he's not a [I]bad[/I] guy but he is a [I]dumb[/I] guy who says whatever comes to mind. I know that makes a terrible president, when this all started I was adamant about my feelings toward him, but I expected a more level-headed Republican to win. I was wrong. I was so very, very wrong. So now we have him, and now we have somebody who has made it very, very clear that in her corrupt quest for power and control she's said some things that have deeply concerned me. Guns aren't all that bothers me about her, privacy is another, and "terrorism" is a topic that makes her say the most fucked up shit right along with Donny boy. I don't welcome debate about this anymore, sorry, that well of patience has been run dry by the irrational gun grabbers and statist fucks who think that letting the police solve everything is A-OK. Those same cops that they screech about for wasting some black kid and then they cry about how "militarized" the police are. Those same fucking people who want the cops to make them feel safe and take over the duties of maintaining their own personal safety are mad because the cops are equipping themselves to do it. I'm done, I won't listen to it anymore, it's gotten to the point where I develop the same eye tic that happens when I hear people try to argue for eugenics or a flat earth or complaining about being in the friend zone. [QUOTE=plunger435;50499366]You're right no one asked Sanders about an Australin Gun ban that ha no relevance in America. They did ask him if he would be willing to repeal immunity to gun manufacturers of their guns are used in a crime though. [URL]http://time.com/4183716/bernie-sanders-gun-manufacturer-immunity/[/URL] Something completely within his power to do. I guess we're not going to take this flip flopping at face value though because he must not really mean it?[/QUOTE]I already told you I was opposed to it, what more do you want me to say? That I'm sorry Bernie Sanders isn't perfect in every way? Sorry, no dice, I already made it clear that I disagree with him on some shit and ha ha guess what, gun control is one of those things. I said I know he would have been willing to compromise and really, I think if pressed he would be reasonable about it. I don't know what you're trying to get me to admit. No candidate so far has perfectly represented my interests 100% so yes, I am just like everyone else. Surprise. Or are you trying to make the case for "just don't vote" because I truly have no idea what you're trying to communicate here.

we broke this man you think that guns are going to protect you from the federal government?

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499501]I don't welcome debate about this anymore. I'm done, I won't listen to it anymore, it's gotten to the point where I develop the same eye tic that happens when I hear people try to argue for eugenics or a flat earth or complaining about being in the friend zone.[/QUOTE] something tells me that you never welcomed debate in the first place anyways you ignored loads of posters because they said things you didn't like and then go off on insane hyperbolic tangents about semi-fictional stories where swearing and writing like you are talking to people as though they are beneath you. i mean why else be surprised if people find you a disagreeable hypocrite when you talk to them as though they are children for saying you're wrong when you think britain is an unfree country with a lack of civil and political rights.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50499553]something tells me that you never welcomed debate in the first place anyways[/QUOTE]I told you specifically it's important to me and I wasn't going to reverse myself on it. Your response? "ya well its just sum domb hobby ne ways who cares????" No, I never welcomed that "debate," that's why I stopped responding to you. You're not entitled to discourse with me Sobotnik, stop pretending like I have an obligation to respond to your inflammatory shitposts. [QUOTE]saying you're wrong when you think britain is an unfree country with a lack of civil and political rights.[/QUOTE]From my perspective it is, but that doesn't really matter and it was completely off-topic bullshit anyway. That question was some stupid gotcha that was supposed to make me stop and sputter, I don't think 1nfiniteseed didn't expect me to follow through with it. [editline]11th June 2016[/editline] Oh and in the end I'm still going to vote however the hell I please! Keep trying to win me over with abrasive horseshit, it's [I]totally[/I] making me consider the merits of your argument.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50499553]something tells me that you never welcomed debate in the first place anyways you ignored loads of posters because they said things you didn't like and then go off on insane hyperbolic tangents about semi-fictional stories where swearing and writing like you are talking to people as though they are beneath you. i mean why else be surprised if people find you a disagreeable hypocrite when you talk to them as though they are children for saying you're wrong.[/QUOTE] See, I'm having a hard time taking this post seriously, considering I've seen you pull the exact same shit on numerous occasions.

i wish that gun rights wasn't considered exclusively to be a Republican policy. i'm pretty left-wing on quite a lot of things but i'm heavily in support for the right of the people to bear arms.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50499650]i wish that gun rights wasn't considered exclusively to be a Republican policy. i'm pretty left-wing on quite a lot of things but i'm heavily in support for the right of the people to bear arms.[/QUOTE]It's like a dance between which personal liberties is least offensive, GOP doesn't like LGBT and the Dems don't like the Bill of Rights. Don't be apathetic about your vote though, holy shit is that super duper cereal or what???!!!

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499669]It's like a dance between which personal liberties is least offensive, GOP doesn't like LGBT and the Dems don't like the Bill of Rights. Don't be apathetic about your vote though, holy shit is that super duper cereal or what???!!![/QUOTE] i've said it before, my personal idea of a perfect america is being balls deep in my trans wife while firing uzis out my window, is that too much to ask for

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50499680]i've said it before, my personal idea of a perfect america is being balls deep in my trans wife while firing uzis out my window, is that too much to ask for[/QUOTE]Fucking A brother. I just hope if we meet aliens they're sexy, so I can get some space dino babe a greencard through marriage. I'll walk in after a hard day slaving over a hot belt-fed machine gun and slap down chunks of whatever meat I could pick from the animal I shot. She'll look at me and hiss something sensual in her native language, and [I]we have wild, passionate interspecies sex right there on the table.[/I] I'll grab her tail and she will slap me with her claws as hard as she can because this is [U]America[/U] and my pursuit of life liberty and happiness involves S&M kinky shit. Then when we're done she fries me up whatever perforated meat I brought in and we enjoy it together, with a glass of wine, as we exercise the 1st Amendment rights she never had on Grognak IV by arguing with motherfuckers on Youtube. That is my American dream.

You know I expected this thread to take a lot of interesting turns, just not this one

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50499680]i've said it before, my personal idea of a perfect america is being balls deep in my trans wife while firing uzis out my window, is that too much to ask for[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50499779]Fucking A brother. I just hope if we meet aliens they're sexy, so I can get some space dino babe a greencard through marriage. I'll walk in after a hard day slaving over a hot belt-fed machine gun and slap down chunks of whatever meat I could pick from the animal I shot. She'll look at me and hiss something sensual in her native language, and [I]we have wild, passionate interspecies sex right there on the table.[/I] I'll grab her tail and she will slap me with her claws as hard as she can because this is [U]America[/U] and my pursuit of life liberty and happiness involves S&M kinky shit. Then when we're done she fries me up whatever perforated meat I brought in and we enjoy it together, with a glass of wine, as we exercise the 1st Amendment rights she never had on Grognak IV by arguing with motherfuckers on Youtube. That is my American dream.[/QUOTE] This thread has really really changed since the last time I posted in it.